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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 8:04:13 GMT
HOW IS THIS STILL PREVIEWING!?!?! I went (what feels like) MONTHS ago!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 8:08:30 GMT
Press night next week by the looks of things. I know there have been longer preview periods than a month, but it does seem unusually long here. I guess 'cos we're used to things at the Old Vic only running for 12 or 16 weeks in total?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 8:25:27 GMT
GD is only on for 9 weeks with 5 of those weeks as previews (though conveniently NOT at preview prices).
It almost seems like cheating. What if the national had 5 weeks of previews and just a couple of proper. They could really iron out everything and always get great reviews which means the possibility of transferring.
And I appreciate that big west end musicals may get as long as 5 weeks previews (not often thou) but this isn't even staying in London!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 8:30:32 GMT
Just tried looking to see how long the next big WE musical that's opening is previewing for and turns out this is the last original (that hasn't opened on Broadway) musical to open!
What a sorry state, but that's something for a different thread....
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Post by freckles on Aug 11, 2016 8:42:09 GMT
GD is only on for 9 weeks with 5 of those weeks as previews (though conveniently NOT at preview prices). It almost seems like cheating. What if the national had 5 weeks of previews and just a couple of proper. They could really iron out everything and always get great reviews which means the possibility of transferring. And I appreciate that big west end musicals may get as long as 5 weeks previews (not often thou) but this isn't even staying in London! Guess the Old Vic run is a kind of preview/out of town tryout for Broadway...
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Post by kathryn on Aug 11, 2016 8:49:04 GMT
Yes, the creative team have explicitly said as much.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 9:10:16 GMT
Yeah, exactly!
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Post by andrew on Aug 11, 2016 10:08:08 GMT
The merits of which were discussed some several hundred messages back, can't believe you don't remember... There's still no official news currently on where if anywhere this will go, and we know there have been financial troubles on the Broadway side of things. At the most this might extend for a week in the old vic before there'll need to break it down for the next production. I suppose we can at least be grateful that Warchus is in charge of he Old Vic so that we could see this at all. It looks like it's going to close down for a bit before it rises (again...) somewhere else.
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Post by harry on Aug 11, 2016 11:39:02 GMT
Apologies if this was asked pages back when it actually happened but what are the implications of Scott Rudin pulling out? So it seems like there were 4 co-producers (The OV, Andre Ptaszynski also in London, and Scott Rudin and Lia Vollack in the US), who surely all have money invested in the show for some sort of option to produce the commercial transfers of it if it happens. When Scott pulls out, does he take his money with him? Or does he simply give up his right to the transfer option - neither seems to make any sense. I can't imagine a co-producing contract would allow you to pull your money whenever you like as that could totally derail the show, but equally if his money is still in it, why wouldn't he just wait and see what happens rather than publicly disowning the project before it's been shown to an audience and critics?
And does the existing co-producing agreement preclude someone like Sonia Friedman or Howard Panter getting in on the action and helping to transfer it straight to the West End or is it still all up for grabs, particularly now the planned Broadway transfer looks less guaranteed without Rudin's input?
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Post by partytentdown on Aug 11, 2016 12:13:21 GMT
What we're seeing is not a traditional London preview period of 5-6 shows but essentially a testing ground for a product they want to be around for a much longer time. In the same way Broadway shows will do entire try-out runs in LA or Montreal or various other cities which last for 2-3 months, this is basically taking its time, making changes, adding and subtracting songs until it's in a place they feel comfortable with. After this run it will likely vanish for a year to be re-worked and then probably appear in New York. I think American Psycho is the only recent example of this model.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 12:29:15 GMT
£90 for some stalls for a try out is a bit wanky thou. Suppose they gotta pay wages thou init blud
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Post by partytentdown on Aug 11, 2016 12:32:55 GMT
Innit
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 11, 2016 12:53:08 GMT
The 'New' Old Vic under Warchus tenure, their mission statement should read: chase the pound note or should it really be the dollar bill?
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Post by partytentdown on Aug 11, 2016 13:12:27 GMT
They also need to sort their signs out. The consequence of having about 3 rebrands in a year means that there is a real mish-mash of signs around the place. FONTS MATTER.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 17:01:53 GMT
Tickets came through this morning, so excited! And hoping my view won't be TOO bad considering they are "side view with rail and pillar".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 19:16:25 GMT
I already feel like this will be a dumb question but I shall ask... when booking on the website, you get the option of buying a programme. Can you buy them at the theatre or can you only buy them online? I suspect you can buy them at the theatre but I will still ask to be sure before I book.
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Post by stevej678 on Aug 11, 2016 19:31:30 GMT
I already feel like this will be a dumb question but I shall ask... when booking on the website, you get the option of buying a programme. Can you buy them at the theatre or can you only buy them online? I suspect you can buy them at the theatre but I will still ask to be sure before I book. They're on sale at the theatre too. £4 if I remember correctly.
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 11, 2016 19:35:22 GMT
As Steve says, but interestingly how do you buy a programme online is a PDF?
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 11, 2016 19:41:11 GMT
Some £30 tickets for tomorrow, Saturday matinee too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 19:49:52 GMT
Thank you guys, I am at the show tomorrow... L22 which is down to £30 when it is usually one of the higher end tickets!
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Post by stevej678 on Aug 11, 2016 20:01:54 GMT
As Steve says, but interestingly how do you buy a programme online is a PDF? There were a lot of people with programme vouchers on my visit to the Old Vic so I imagine ordering the programme online in advance you just get a voucher with your tickets to exchange for one at the theatre. There's no electronic version/PDF to download.
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 11, 2016 20:06:14 GMT
Okay thank for that, a lot of hassle to get a programme, going to get the voucher, then print the thing off.
Just hand over £4 or more and get change, job done.
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 11, 2016 20:07:02 GMT
There's also some £12 restricted view Upper Circle seats for Press Night on Tues 16th. I'd go for them if the view was just a tiny bit better, and having seen it from the stalls already, I think that's where I'd prefer to see the show from. What do we think the likelihood of the £30 on-the-day reductions carrying on after press night? I am pretty set on wanting to make a return trip but wouldn't mind leaving it a bit longer as I only saw it a week or so ago. Would happily pay £30 again but any more than that is slightly out of my budget!
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Post by theatreliker on Aug 11, 2016 22:16:00 GMT
Saw this tonight. It's utterly superb! Beautiful music, clever and hilarious lyrics, seamless production. (All is forgiven Warchus). Fantastic cast. Would love to hear the songs again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 22:19:24 GMT
Andy Karl in the lead, he has been nominated for two Tony awards (for Rocky and On the Twentieth Century). If this goes to Broadway, is the role, or he, good enough to nab another nomination or even a win?
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