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Post by Latecomer on Jun 22, 2019 16:20:14 GMT
Don’t think it was the spoiler as above. I think it was alternative endings indicating a lack of faith in either one. I feel it should have ended with the riots, the ‘revolution’ and then we can make up the rest ourselves, trust the audience. The ending was to me somewhat sentimental and this undermined the whole premise of the series. Maybe like a documentary they could have written up on the screen rolling, the consequences rather matter of fact like but somebody fell in love with that pseudo science. The political and social reality were terrifying, no need for the parallel sci fi stuff. But the sci fi stuff changes the politics....look how twitter and the internet has changed politics....you can’t ignore the sci fi changes. I agree it was a bit clumsily done but imagine if the last experiment succeeds....where then for the world? |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 22, 2019 22:19:57 GMT
Haven’t read any of this thread and just watched the first three episodes.
Absolutely full of plot holes, hokey acting and improbability. RTD spins a good yarn that keeps you engaged but forget the detail. That bloody robot in e01 never mentioned again. The kid with the emogi facemask never mentioned again. It’s preposterous and so absolutely terribly bad that I suspect I’ll watch the rest.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 23, 2019 16:02:11 GMT
Well, I watched it and it got more ridiculous as every episode passed. I suspected there’d be some sort of bonkers ending so stuck with it and I’m bloody infuriated with myself for falling for it. Just texted my friend who had recommended it in the most extravagant and glowing manner to hear back that he’d only actually seen episode ONE!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 16:37:03 GMT
I found my self a little underwhelmed at the end, to have invested in a family in reasonably plausible trauma and get a watery distraction of a conclusion. Similar to the general reception at the end of Lost.
I did enjoy the ride though and found it quite cathartic to watch in it's exploration of *mostly* real-world possibilities.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 23, 2019 17:19:31 GMT
That ridiculous scene at the hospital where the daughter is getting “digitalised” and she turns to her parents, blinks in an exaggerated manner and squeals “dad, I just took your photo!” Major eye roll. Babs Windsor was pulling that trick in Carry On Spying in the sixties.
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Post by crowblack on Jun 23, 2019 20:03:03 GMT
Babs Windsor was pulling that trick in Carry On Spying in the sixties. I though that was a deliberate nod. |
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Post by Backdrifter on Jun 23, 2019 20:47:37 GMT
That bloody robot in e01 never mentioned again. The kid with the emogi facemask never mentioned again. Yeah the robot is a one-and-done but then the bloke who owns it is in and out of the story pretty rapidly so I suppose that's why we don't see or hear of it again. Just as well as it came across as a throw-away idea that should've been left out. The girl with the emoji facemask is one of the main characters and the basis of one of the main plotlines. Unless you mean specifically the mask isn't mentioned again but I put that down her moving on to the next fad, as kids will. But I'm guessing from your later posts that those are just drops in a raging torrent anyway. |
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Post by lynette on Jun 23, 2019 21:38:26 GMT
Don’t think it was the spoiler as above. I think it was alternative endings indicating a lack of faith in either one. I feel it should have ended with the riots, the ‘revolution’ and then we can make up the rest ourselves, trust the audience. The ending was to me somewhat sentimental and this undermined the whole premise of the series. Maybe like a documentary they could have written up on the screen rolling, the consequences rather matter of fact like but somebody fell in love with that pseudo science. The political and social reality were terrifying, no need for the parallel sci fi stuff. But the sci fi stuff changes the politics....look how twitter and the internet has changed politics....you can’t ignore the sci fi changes. I agree it was a bit clumsily done but imagine if the last experiment succeeds....where then for the world? Yep, got your point. I think I mean as a piece of drama the sci fi didn’t work for me. The search for immortality isn’t dramatic. Certain death is dramamtic. |
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Post by TallPaul on Jun 24, 2019 13:17:05 GMT
The shops can easily go over to paper bags and sustain a few forests. Why don’t they? Boots has today announced that it is phasing out plastic bags and replacing them with paper ones, starting immediately in 53 stores. One word from lynette was all it took.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 16:25:24 GMT
This is not science fiction by the way, it is more akin to Black Mirror’s vision of a near future based on current trajectories. The science is there in an embryonic way (we can already actually ‘see’ thoughts for example, see below). As with the political happenings of the story this is much closer than you think (for that, look at the stories coming out of the US about refugee children in cages dying, for example). interestingengineering.com/this-new-ai-system-can-see-what-you-are-thinking |
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Post by lynette on Jun 24, 2019 17:47:23 GMT
There was a super little two hander at The Park last year about how a man can become a concentration camp facilitator. Part of the current interest in such things.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 5:51:46 GMT
Interesting cast for RTD's next drama, "Boys", coming to Channel 4 next year ... www.digitalspy.com/tv/a29355472/russell-t-davies-boys-olly-alexander-bodyguard-keeley-hawes/The lead will be Olly Alexander from Years and Years (the band, not the TV show  ). I hadn't realised he was an actor before he was a singer - for instance he was Peter Pan in "Peter and Alice"  Other cast includes Keeley Hawes, Stephen Fry, Tracy Ann Oberman, Shaun Dooley and Neil Patrick Harris. |
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Post by alece10 on Oct 4, 2019 15:37:48 GMT
Interesting cast for RTD's next drama, "Boys", coming to Channel 4 next year ... www.digitalspy.com/tv/a29355472/russell-t-davies-boys-olly-alexander-bodyguard-keeley-hawes/The lead will be Olly Alexander from Years and Years (the band, not the TV show ). I hadn't realised he was an actor before he was a singer - for instance he was Peter Pan in "Peter and Alice" Other cast includes Keeley Hawes, Stephen Fry, Tracy Ann Oberman, Shaun Dooley and Neil Patrick Harris. Also Callum Howels who was in She Loves Me at the Menier. |
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Post by Jon on Oct 4, 2019 16:32:45 GMT
Olly was also in The Riot Club, the film adaptation of Posh.
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Post by bimse on Oct 4, 2019 16:43:46 GMT
Had a letter pushed through my door this week to say they are going to be filming for “The Boys” on my road soon, I’m not sure which properties they are using but apparently they are going to give the road an 80s appearance, there’ll be parking restrictions etc. I didn’t realise they had such an interesting cast lined up .
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). I hadn't realised he was an actor before he was a singer - for instance he was Peter Pan in "Peter and Alice" 
