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Post by alece10 on Sept 13, 2022 18:19:02 GMT
From Vue cinemas
We will be screening the funeral of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, in selected UK venues* on Monday, 19 September, live from 10am. Seats will be free of charge and our retail offering on this day will be limited to complimentary bottled water during the broadcast, with no other snacks or drinks available for purchase. On this day we will not be showing our normal programme of films.
In addition, we will also screen the London Procession in the majority of our UK venues on Wednesday, 14 September, live from 1:30pm. On this day all other screens will be open showing film content as normal.
We look forward to coming together as a community to honor the remarkable life of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
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Post by sweets7 on Sept 13, 2022 22:22:50 GMT
From Vue cinemas We will be screening the funeral of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, in selected UK venues* on Monday, 19 September, live from 10am. Seats will be free of charge and our retail offering on this day will be limited to complimentary bottled water during the broadcast, with no other snacks or drinks available for purchase. On this day we will not be showing our normal programme of films. In addition, we will also screen the London Procession in the majority of our UK venues on Wednesday, 14 September, live from 1:30pm. On this day all other screens will be open showing film content as normal. We look forward to coming together as a community to honor the remarkable life of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. What a lovely thing. If you were on your own and really wanted to watch it in company. Such a lovely act.
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Post by vickyg on Sept 14, 2022 8:28:10 GMT
I mean no disrespect, but does anybody else find it absolute madness they're closing everything on the 19th? Cinemas, Center Parcs, a show I booked for got rescheduled. I understand some people are sad and wish to mourn, that is of course their right, but to force the country to a standstill is stupid. I'm thinking of it more as companies giving their employees the opportunity to pay their respects. I went to my first 'thing' last night, the Hilary Hahn and Lera Auerbach concert at Wigmore Hall. My first experience of the 'moment of reflection' amongst a group and they added a piece called Postlude to the beginning of the programme which was extremely moving.
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Post by jojo on Sept 14, 2022 10:43:27 GMT
The short notice doesn't help, but it's interesting that people who would support more public holidays are getting angry at the consequences of people taking a day off. Granted, many organisations normally stay open on a public holiday, and it's not always a simple case of everything moving back by a day. If you have a hospital appointment postponed, it may not be rescheduled for another month.
However, the guidance was very clear. No organisation is forced to close or not provide their normal service at any time, and it's just a recommendation about rescheduling certain activities if they clash with the funeral. The logistics of modifying business or closing for the morning only were perhaps more complicated than shutting things down for a full day, so I have sympathy for those tasked with making a quick decision.
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Post by sfsusan on Sept 14, 2022 19:20:16 GMT
Watching today's procession, I have some questions. (I'm American, so forgive my ignorance of some of the traditions.) I know that Prince Harry isn't allowed to wear a military uniform, but because he served on active duty (rather than being associated with the military in an honorary role based on his then-status as a senior royal), is he not considered a veteran in his own right?
Why do some of the red-uniformed walkers have black mourning armbands and others don't?
I liked Anne's trousered uniform. I assume that's not traditional?
I happened to be in Knightsbridge on some errands, walking the perimeter of Hyde Park when they were firing the minute gun. My gosh, that sound travels! One minute is just long enough that you can't quite anticipate the next one. I jumped... every single time.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 14, 2022 19:49:29 GMT
As far as I have been able to find, Anne is the first female royal to walk in this sort of procession. So she is able to set his own tradition.
I think the reason that Harry and Andrew were not in uniform is because they no longer hold any official position with the armed services and as this is a formal ceremony, only current military representatives are in uniform. They were still wearing the medals they earned whilst in service.
Black arm bands are, I think, a matter of personal choice.
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Post by ncbears on Sept 14, 2022 19:57:24 GMT
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Post by sfsusan on Sept 14, 2022 20:23:34 GMT
I think the reason that Harry and Andrew were not in uniform is because they no longer hold any official position with the armed services and as this is a formal ceremony, only current military representatives are in uniform. So Anne and Edward are still representatives, hence the uniforms. In the US, veterans and retirees generally may wear dress uniforms on 'appropriate' occasions, including (I've read) funerals.
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Post by alece10 on Sept 14, 2022 20:48:51 GMT
There us also something to do with the fact that they are "non working" members of the Royal family.
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Post by sweets7 on Sept 14, 2022 21:04:59 GMT
Once your retired in the UK you can’t wear your uniform. So Harry can’t wear his own and as a non working royal he can’t wear the ones he used to have as ceremonial.
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Post by crowblack on Sept 15, 2022 7:25:03 GMT
I suspect a lot of playwrights/TV writers etc. will be rushing to join The Queue. I switched on the BBC livestream at midnight last night and there were 44,000 viewing.
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Post by crowblack on Sept 15, 2022 8:19:23 GMT
And with that Radio 5 interviewed James Graham about The Queue.
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Post by sfsusan on Sept 15, 2022 10:23:40 GMT
Once your retired in the UK you can’t wear your uniform. So Harry can’t wear his own and as a non working royal he can’t wear the ones he used to have as ceremonial. Ah, that's the difference. Thank you, it makes complete sense now.
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Post by jojo on Sept 15, 2022 11:37:26 GMT
Once your retired in the UK you can’t wear your uniform. So Harry can’t wear his own and as a non working royal he can’t wear the ones he used to have as ceremonial. From what I can tell, it's normal or at least acceptable for retired military personnel in the US to continue wearing their uniforms, whereas that's something that's very definitely not allowed in the UK and is seen as a big no no. The only reason Harry and Andrew used to be allowed to wear uniforms after they retired was because as senior working royals they took on new/extra ceremonial roles within the military. In that sense they were sort of still military. When Harry decided he didn't want to be a working royal any-more, his ceremonial roles ended. So he wasn't allowed to wear a uniform, same as everyone else who has retired from the army. The same for Andrew, except it wasn't his choice to step back. It's all very well saying that Harry spent more time in the military than William, but most military spent more time in the organisation than Harry and none of them get to wear their uniform once they are fully retired. Harry is on the receiving end of unfair abuse, but I'm not kept up at night because he doesn't get to wear a ceremonial military uniform. I'm guessing a lot of the outrage started in America they because they don't realise that they are following the rules, and that doesn't require a big conspiracy. Perhaps they could have come to an arrangement so that Harry kept a ceremonial role somewhere, but if you are a republican complaining about special privileges for the royal family then you probably shouldn't be complaining that they didn't make a new rule so one of their own got special treatment. Mind you, half of the folk moaning about this are under the impression that Andrew was wearing a military uniform yesterday and/or that Harry is the only one with a real military career. It might have been easier to create a loophole for Harry if Andrew wasn't hanging around, refusing to get the hint that he's an embarrassment.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Sept 15, 2022 11:40:08 GMT
Once your retired in the UK you can’t wear your uniform. So Harry can’t wear his own and as a non working royal he can’t wear the ones he used to have as ceremonial. Ah, that's the difference. Thank you, it makes complete sense now. So the Chelsea Pensioners we see at Remembrance Sunday are still serving?
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 15, 2022 11:59:32 GMT
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 15, 2022 22:31:25 GMT
Just to confuse matters, Andrew and Harry will be permitted to wear uniforms when they stand guard as part of the vigil
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Post by FairyGodmother on Sept 16, 2022 10:25:45 GMT
Technically Andrew could always have worn his own uniform (with an R on it for retired). Harry wasn't a high enough rank when he left to be allowed to do that.
Has it been reported which uniforms they'll wear?
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Post by Dawnstar on Sept 16, 2022 12:58:04 GMT
Having looked up who was walking in the procession from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Hall - the BBC not having bothered to name anyone other than the senior Royals - I see one of the members of the Queen's household is nicknamed Tall Paul. Any relation to our TallPaul?
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Sept 16, 2022 13:14:02 GMT
Queue to pay respects to the Queen suspended. Now have a pre-queue and people queueing to get into the pre-queue
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Post by Jon on Sept 16, 2022 13:14:31 GMT
Queue to pay respects to the Queen suspended. Now have a pre-queue and people queueing to get into the pre-queue Can't get more British than that!
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Post by TallPaul on Sept 16, 2022 14:14:58 GMT
I didn't know that, Dawnstar. 6'4", I read. He was the footman who escorted Her late Majesty, James Bond and sundry corgis along the corridor of Buckingham Palace. No relation...as far as I'm aware. My lot are from Cambridgeshire, and he's from Essex.
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Post by alece10 on Sept 16, 2022 14:27:37 GMT
I went to Pimlico this morning as there was a desk at the Tate Britain where people with mobility issues could get a timed entry ticket to avoid having to queue for hours. When I arrived about 10.30am the queue just to get an entry time was 2 hours and entry times were being given for many, many hours later. That would not have been an issue for me as I live in London so could have gone home and come in again but I would not have been able to queue for 2 hours to get a slot. So, I'm afraid, I had to come home again. The queue was huge and so many people in wheelchairs, frames and sticks who were patiently waiting. I later found out that they had run out of slots so suspended the queue. So I might not have got a slot even if I waited. At least I tried 😀
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Post by Someone in a tree on Sept 16, 2022 14:34:02 GMT
Sorry to hear about that Alec. I really thought physical disabilities would be better supported.
Seems the only way to do it is to become a MP and waltz to the front
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Post by alece10 on Sept 16, 2022 14:38:26 GMT
Sorry to hear about that Alec. I really thought physical disabilities would be better supported. Seems the only way to do it is to become a MP and waltz to the front Exactly, and I've just had an argument about that very subject with a friend who thought it was totally acceptable for MPs to have "fast track'. Even good old David Beckham has been queueing with everyone else and eating pringles and donuts.
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