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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 16:17:09 GMT
But SD is already over for some industries - eg travel - no social distancing required on planes. Still not clear why theatre can't also be considered for an exception where you can show risks are minimal, whether through mask use, air filtration systems, etc. Everyone facing the same way also reduces risk.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 16:17:40 GMT
Hopefully they will just disregard this useless govt and get on with trying to put on indoor theatre in a way that's compatible with an ongoing health issue - eg like the Mousetrap is. The mousetrap does have social distancing.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 29, 2020 16:23:49 GMT
But SD is already over for some industries - eg travel - no social distancing required on planes. Still not clear why theatre can't also be considered for an exception where you can show risks are minimal, whether through mask use, air filtration systems, etc. Everyone facing the same way also reduces risk. The big issue is that it is hard to scientifically prove if the risk is reduced or not. |
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Post by Jon on Jul 29, 2020 16:27:45 GMT
But SD is already over for some industries - eg travel - no social distancing required on planes. Still not clear why theatre can't also be considered for an exception where you can show risks are minimal, whether through mask use, air filtration systems, etc. Everyone facing the same way also reduces risk. I think more pilots need to be done in order to fully test it. If I was ALW or another theatre owner, I would do a trial with the same measures as the Palladium pilot but with no social distancing. Apart from South Korea and possibly Japan, are any entertainment venues around the world planning to fully open with no social distancing? |
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Post by Mark on Jul 29, 2020 16:36:02 GMT
What a farce. Bye bye to the theatre industry. With the government telling us a second wave is coming what did you expect? Well atleast we are prepared. Life is about risk, and unfortunately, we have been removed of many of our freedoms and much of our employment has disappeared or about to disappear. We can't live in fear forever. |
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Post by basdfg on Jul 29, 2020 16:43:12 GMT
But SD is already over for some industries - eg travel - no social distancing required on planes. Still not clear why theatre can't also be considered for an exception where you can show risks are minimal, whether through mask use, air filtration systems, etc. Everyone facing the same way also reduces risk. I think a more pilots need to be done in order to fully test it. If I was ALW or another theatre owner, I would do a trial with the same measures as the Palladium pilot but with no social distancing. Apart from South Korea and possibly Japan, are any entertainment venues around the world planning to fully open with no social distancing? The government and local councils will be wary of approving trials for no distancing trials coming for a while for obvious reasons. ALW can't unilaterally do one |
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Post by basdfg on Jul 29, 2020 16:45:44 GMT
With the government telling us a second wave is coming what did you expect? Well atleast we are prepared. Life is about risk, and unfortunately, we have been removed of many of our freedoms and much of our employment has disappeared or about to disappear. We can't live in fear forever. With the reports of the long term effects Covid is having I fear the virus. |
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Post by theatreian on Jul 29, 2020 16:49:14 GMT
I guess there is no crystal ball to see how the virus will pan out and when there will be a vaccine. The government is in an impossible position really as it cannot please both sides by approving what could turn out to be a dangerous precedent of non socially distant indoor performances. As has previously been mentioned it is not just the performance but everything else that goes along with it, such as bar, toilets, getting everyone in and out and to their seats....Here's hoping that things will turn out more positive quicker than we expect though.
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Post by Jon on Jul 29, 2020 16:50:02 GMT
With the reports of the long term effects Covid is having we do need to fear the virus. It's a disease that will likely be treatable with a vaccine and treatments in the coming months and years. We will have to live with it just as we have with other diseases. Shutting down everything with work and no play is not sustainable and frankly miserable. |
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Post by basdfg on Jul 29, 2020 16:51:05 GMT
I guess there is no crystal ball to see how the virus will pan out and when there will be a vaccine. The government is in an impossible position really as it cannot please both sides by approving what could turn out to be a dangerous precedent of non socially distant indoor performances. As has previously been mentioned it is not just the performance but everything else that goes along with it, such as bar, toilets, getting everyone in and out and to their seats....Here's hoping that things will turn out more positive quicker than we expect though. That is the big issue - toilets and all the narrow spaces. |
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Post by basdfg on Jul 29, 2020 16:51:48 GMT
With the reports of the long term effects Covid is having we do need to fear the virus. It's a disease that will likely be treatable with a vaccine and treatments in the coming months and years. We will have to live with it just as we have with other diseases. Shutting down everything with work and no play is not sustainable and frankly miserable. It is being reported to cause heart damage in healthy people not even ill enough to go to hospital. |
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Post by Jon on Jul 29, 2020 17:01:04 GMT
It is being reported to cause heart damage in healthy people not even ill enough to go to hospital. So can other diseases but it doesn't mean we should be locked inside forever. We've been through many pandemics and epidemics over the centuries and come through the other side intact and I'm confident we will get through this. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 18:00:44 GMT
We've been through many pandemics and epidemics over the centuries and come through the other side intact and I'm confident we will get through this. We came through intact as a species, but that's not much comfort at the level of the individual life or death. What number of deaths is acceptable in order for people not to have to make some adjustments to the way they live until we get a vaccine? It's easy to be nonchalant about deaths that aren't currently happening, but if someone said "We can get rid of this disease tomorrow and get everything back to normal but the price is that we will randomly select and kill 0.5% of the population", who would go for that deal? How about if it was 0.5% each year? How about if the 0.5% included your close family, or friends, or you? There seems to be this weird idea going round that now we've beaten the virus back it knows we've won and will just trickle along at a low level without bothering us again, but diseases don't work like that. We're currently in about the same position as we were in early March and if we're to avoid another lockdown we need to work at keeping it that way until we can do to Covid-19 what we did to smallpox, and if that means we have to adjust our leisure activities for a while then that's what we have to do because it turns out the universe doesn't give a crap what anyone wants or how unfair anyone thinks it is. It's not even as if this is hypothetical. The situation in the US is exactly what happens when people say "We have to carry on". The US has had half as many deaths as we've had cases. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 21:44:13 GMT
We came through intact as a species, but that's not much comfort at the level of the individual life or death. What number of deaths is acceptable in order for people not to have to make some adjustments to the way they live until we get a vaccine? That's not much comfort to the people who will die because of poverty due to mass unemployment either though. This is so much bigger than just coronavirus, and it is frankly a bit offensive to act as if only deaths from coronavirus matter. There has to be a balance that gives the greatest possible majority a chance to get on with their lives. And yes, that includes trying to find ways for the millions who work in the leisure sectors to be able to keep their jobs and actually work and earn some money. Unless you are suggesting the government pay their salaries in full indefinitely until there's a vaccine or a cure? If so, then where does the money for that come from? |
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 30, 2020 18:34:53 GMT
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Post by Mark on Jul 30, 2020 19:04:22 GMT
What a tragic situation.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 31, 2020 11:10:04 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 31, 2020 11:23:12 GMT
Will be interesting to see if people are willing to go to the cinema while wearing a mask.
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 31, 2020 11:27:10 GMT
Is it clear if you have to wear a mask in the foyer but can take it off once in your seat in the cinema? That old conundrum of wearing glasses means I wouldn't be able to see the screen!
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Post by basdfg on Jul 31, 2020 11:28:53 GMT
Is it clear if you have to wear a mask in the foyer but can take it off once in your seat in the cinema? That old conundrum of wearing glasses means I wouldn't be able to see the screen! I doubt the government even know the answer yet.
From that it doesn't feel likely theatre without distancing is coming anytime soon
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 31, 2020 11:30:37 GMT
Is it clear if you have to wear a mask in the foyer but can take it off once in your seat in the cinema? That old conundrum of wearing glasses means I wouldn't be able to see the screen! I doubt the government even know the answer yet.
From that it doesn't feel likely theatre without distancing is coming anytime soon
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 11:36:11 GMT
I have to say, it did feel a bit odd to be walking around the cinema last night and sitting in reasonable proximity to other people for three hours with no one wearing a mask. Nice - a taste of normality - but slightly wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 11:37:28 GMT
Yet to be evidenced whether this is an overreaction to increased and targeted testing or a genuine uptick in cases - I guess hospital admissions/deaths in the next week or two will be the test.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 31, 2020 11:41:52 GMT
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Post by Jon on Jul 31, 2020 11:46:10 GMT
^Please stop reposting everything you find on Twitter.
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