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Post by basdfg on Jul 9, 2020 12:36:11 GMT
Cats is relatively easy to adapt to social distancing on stage due to it's storyline not requiring tons of contact - many musicals have lots of vital plot points which require contact which would be hard to get around.
Maybe some more concert versions of shows could be done
Doesn't Cats have quite a lot of contact between actors? They're always rubbing against each other. The kitty orgy mid way through the Jellicle ball will have to go for starters... Them not running through the auditorium to limit actor/audience contact will be no great loss though. Other than the truly immersive New London version, has always been a gimmick really. Nothing massively essential to the plot through - not compared to the likes of the Phantom or Miss Siagon. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 12:37:34 GMT
They are planing on opening in September. I'll be there if they do! I mean, this is the thing, isn't it - apart from everything else, how much tourism revenue are we losing by an extended shut down of the performing arts? I'm definitely planning my travels this summer/autumn based on where I can see something live in some way, which means countries other than the UK are getting a hefty chunk of my lockdown savings. Same! And if other countries feel they can do what we can't, then that's where I am headed! (Assuming FCO allow of course). |
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Post by basdfg on Jul 9, 2020 12:53:59 GMT
It's quite likely some performances will happen in England come September/October time but financially they will be limited at first to those who can remain viable despite the use of some form of Social Distancing and can manage the risk of being shutdown due to an outbreak or local lockdown. As things improve financially risker theatre wlll resume
What show is ALW planing for the test? I imagine it's something relatively cheap to produce and not something people will be gutted to miss if they get told to isolate - you don;t want people deciding to go despite being advised not to due not wanting to miss it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 13:05:41 GMT
It's quite likely some performances will happen in England come September/October time but financially they will be limited at first to those who can remain viable despite the use of some form of Social Distancing and can manage the risk of being shutdown due to an outbreak or local lockdown. As things improve financially risker theatre wlll resume What show is ALW planing for the test? I imagine it's something relatively cheap to produce and not something people will be gutted to miss if they get told to isolate - you don;t want people deciding to go despite being advised not to due not wanting to miss it. Stephen Ward - a handful of people will want to see it and he’ll call it social distance seating. |
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jul 9, 2020 14:20:49 GMT
I was in a meeting with a few different ADs today (which I shouldn’t have been in and was punching way above my weight being there).
The majority of the bailout will go to theatre (15-20% to museums). Some theatres have been told how much they are getting and some haven’t been contacted at all. The % that goes to each venue is allegedly based primarily on financial need but no one knows what other factors are involved. The bailout is intended to keep theatre afloat until spring 2021, so the assumption is theatre is expected to be up and running and making money again by then.
No one understands why the government won’t allow outdoor performances, or performances for a small number of socially distanced audience members with a sheet of Perspex between them and the stage. A number of venues have socially distanced outdoor productions waiting to go the minute the government says the word.
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Post by Jon on Jul 9, 2020 14:57:20 GMT
Oliver Dowden is doing a briefing today which makes me think something in the works for things that can’t currently open. I would guess gyms, leisure centres and beauty places will be next.
Museums and galleries not getting as much money isn't too surprising although it's interesting that the big London museums like V&A, Science, NHM etc aren't reopening yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 15:25:02 GMT
I was in a meeting with a few different ADs today (which I shouldn’t have been in and was punching way above my weight being there). The majority of the bailout will go to theatre (15-20% to museums). Some theatres have been told how much they are getting and some haven’t been contacted at all. The % that goes to each venue is allegedly based primarily on financial need but no one knows what other factors are involved. The bailout is intended to keep theatre afloat until spring 2021, so the assumption is theatre is expected to be up and running and making money again by then. No one understands why the government won’t allow outdoor performances, or performances for a small number of socially distanced audience members with a sheet of Perspex between them and the stage. A number of venues have socially distanced outdoor productions waiting to go the minute the government says the word.This makes me simultaneously so happy and so frustrated! There seems to be no logic to a lot of the decisions at all... |
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Post by basdfg on Jul 9, 2020 15:59:44 GMT
Oliver Dowden is doing a briefing today which makes me think something in the works for things that can’t currently open. I would guess gyms, leisure centres and beauty places will be next. Museums and galleries not getting as much money isn't too surprising although it's interesting that the big London museums like V&A, Science, NHM etc aren't reopening yet. Maybe some stuff on the Palladium trial but I will be surprised if indoor theatre gets a truly significant announcement. |
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Post by Figaro on Jul 9, 2020 16:13:25 GMT
Outdoor performances can take place again from now on.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jul 9, 2020 16:14:17 GMT
Outdoor performances from Saturday. Hope samuelwhiskers is right and we can get some announcements in the next few days, my debit card is primed and ready. |
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Post by n1david on Jul 9, 2020 16:16:19 GMT
Theatres protected from demolition or change of use - this is good news, means that if some have to close (and some inevitably will), the fabric of the building will be maintained for potential future theatrical use.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 16:18:10 GMT
Outdoor Concerts/Performances with Social Distancing returning. Nothing as such about sporting events getting spectators back in.
Not sure that reopening swimming pools is a good idea. I'd assume that Gyms can socially distance easily. Changing Rooms and Showers would be more my concern there.
If Hairdressers have reopened then I guess nail bars and tattooists are okay being able to follow but wouldn't be high on my list of priorities at the moment. But no doubt Geordie women will be celebrating this.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 9, 2020 16:18:12 GMT
With some stuff on July 25th being announced I guess indoor performance trials won't start till August.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 9, 2020 16:20:56 GMT
Outdoor Concerts/Performances with Social Distancing returning. Nothing as such about sporting events getting spectators back in. Not sure that reopening swimming pools is a good idea. I'd assume that Gyms can socially distance easily. Changing Rooms and Showers would be more my concern there. If Hairdressers have reopened then I guess nail bars and tattooists are okay being able to follow but wouldn't be high on my list of priorities at the moment. But no doubt Geordie women will be celebrating this. Gyms are seen as very risky in some countries but were some of the first things to reopen in others I think.
I imagine professional sporting events will wait till the PL has finished this season before announcing it.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jul 9, 2020 16:21:03 GMT
With the potential high number of vacant office space as working from home becomes a norm especially in London always thought that repurposing Theatres would be prohibitively expensive and complicated when a square box which only needs partitioning is available nearby just waiting to become apartment blocks but it is good to have these protections in place.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 9, 2020 16:23:24 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 9, 2020 16:26:33 GMT
With the potential high number of vacant office space as working from home becomes a norm especially in London always thought that repurposing Theatres would be prohibitively expensive and complicated when a square box which only needs partitioning is available nearby but it is good to have these protections in place. Think the biggest concern was theatres being demolished to build apartment's than them becoming office space. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 16:30:33 GMT
A number of venues have socially distanced outdoor productions waiting to go the minute the government says the word. Looks like we're gonna be holding you to that ;-) Now - how long would it take for Regent's Park to whip JCS or Evita out of storage? I'm ready! |
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jul 9, 2020 16:32:57 GMT
Clarified my post basdfg as it was not clear what I meant, with all the potentially empty office buildings it will be easier and cheaper to make these apartments which the Government has made simpler by planning changes which would have protected at least for a little while the cost effectiveness of new builds thus saving the Theatres in the short term. |
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Post by theatreian on Jul 9, 2020 16:34:15 GMT
It was also mentioned in the briefing today that more tests are being carried out for indoor performances specifically singing and brass and woodwind instruments I think. At least we know work is ongoing and I am sure when they feel it is safe to do so an announcement will be made.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 16:41:55 GMT
] A number of venues have socially distanced outdoor productions waiting to go the minute the government says the word. And now, Mister DeMille, I am ready for my first clue. |
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Post by n1david on Jul 9, 2020 16:47:40 GMT
Clarified my post basdfg as it was not clear what I meant, with all the potentially empty office buildings it will be easier and cheaper to make these apartments which the Government has made simpler by planning changes which would have protected at least for a little while the cost effectiveness of new builds thus saving the Theatres in the short term. But theatres often have prime central locations, and developers can get more money for apartments in a distinctive 'landmark' building than some bland converted office block. Also, there's more than a handful of former theatres that are now impressive pubs and restaurants. |
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jul 9, 2020 16:48:44 GMT
Is being a Groundling at the Globe considered an outside performance?
Dust off some of the Touring productions, even with a reduced capacity these should be financially viable.
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Post by Mark on Jul 9, 2020 16:51:27 GMT
A number of venues have socially distanced outdoor productions waiting to go the minute the government says the word. Looks like we're gonna be holding you to that ;-) Now - how long would it take for Regent's Park to whip JCS or Evita out of storage? I'm ready! Would be a shame if they didn’t! |
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Post by basdfg on Jul 9, 2020 16:51:28 GMT
It was also mentioned in the briefing today that more tests are being carried out for indoor performances specifically singing and brass and woodwind instruments I think. At least we know work is ongoing and I am sure when they feel it is safe to do so an announcement will be made. Good to hear- through that is not the only problem as otherwise they could allow plays to resume as a test.
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