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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 11:53:51 GMT
That's interesting baguette - as a first step back to opening, I could see semi-staged readings rather than full plays being a good compromise. Would definitely be up for it myself - live actors speaking words is the main thing I'm missing, the set and the effects are just the cherry on the cake. Hopefully that would be quicker, cheaper and easier for the theatres as well, since they would presumably need less rehearsal time.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 23, 2020 13:16:08 GMT
I'm somewhat baffled by the outrage on twitter about todays relaxations in relation to the none relaxation of Theatre. Surely nobody expected theatres to suddenly just be allowed to open and put shows on? That's why everything has been postponed. I'm a bit confused by the response. Plus he did specifically mention Theatre and trying to get it back up and running ASAP, which i thought showed an acknowledgement of the importance.
I believe that he has said that theatres can open, but not put on live performances, now this to some used to going to the west end or working in the West End might seem contradictory but many regional theatres and other London venues are far more than their auditorium and far more than putting on a panto or musical, so the building being allowed to be physically open and being allowed to start up some aspects of all the other things they do, is good news.
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 23, 2020 13:28:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 13:51:26 GMT
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Post by sf on Jun 23, 2020 14:03:14 GMT
Yep, THAT's worth risking exposure.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 14:05:00 GMT
Here's a load of films you've either seen before or weren't motivated to see before. Nothing there to reduce my level of soul-crushing boredom.
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Post by richey on Jun 23, 2020 14:14:13 GMT
Speak for yourself. As a massive Star Wars fan this news actually excites me as it's a rare chance to see the film on the big screen as it was intended.
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Post by xanady on Jun 23, 2020 14:15:52 GMT
On a sad note, just read that Theatre Royal,Plymouth about to make a large number of redundancies.
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Post by maggiem on Jun 23, 2020 14:19:38 GMT
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Post by maggiem on Jun 23, 2020 14:22:02 GMT
Speak for yourself. As a massive Star Wars fan this news actually excites me as it's a rare chance to see the film on the big screen as it was intended. Agreed! I haven't seen Empire for a long time. Just the ticket to get me back.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 14:23:24 GMT
richey Who else would I be speaking for?? I cannot look at another screen. I am screened out. If I get another marketing email including the word 'streaming' I will vomit. I need live, so close the actors are spitting on you performance and I need it now.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 23, 2020 14:28:24 GMT
I was amazed to read that the TRP currently employs 340 people (mixture of full and part time) - that seems huge for a single auditorium venue
I did try to find a staff list to get a clearer sense of what those people did - but haven't been able to find one yet
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Post by Jon on Jun 23, 2020 14:30:46 GMT
By releasing classics in the first two weeks of reopening, cinemas can iron out any kinks before Mulan and Tenet are released. I'm somewhat baffled by the outrage on twitter about todays relaxations in relation to the none relaxation of Theatre. Surely nobody expected theatres to suddenly just be allowed to open and put shows on? That's why everything has been postponed. I'm a bit confused by the response. Plus he did specifically mention Theatre and trying to get it back up and running ASAP, which i thought showed an acknowledgement of the importance. I believe that he has said that theatres can open, but not put on live performances, now this to some used to going to the west end or working in the West End might seem contradictory but many regional theatres and other London venues are far more than their auditorium and far more than putting on a panto or musical, so the building being allowed to be physically open and being allowed to start up some aspects of all the other things they do, is good news. They've already acknowledged that it will be trickier to restart performances in the last few weeks. Having the cafes and eateries opening is good for some theatres because they can make money, obviously it won't replace the money generated by ticket sales but it's a start. I hope the National in particular can do The River Stage in August.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 23, 2020 14:42:55 GMT
Looking a bit more into the Plymouth set up, I can find their 2019 annual report to the Charities commission apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends45/0000284545_AC_20190331_E_C.PDFIn 2019, they had one member of staff earning between £210,000 and £219,999 and a second earning between £140,000 and £149,999 They had 104 FT staff plus PT staff with an FTE of a further 69 people Their annual staff costs in 2019 were just over £5 million I may be massively mistaken but I cannot see the justification for any theatre in the UK to be paying a member of staff in excess of £210k per year - and yes, I know senior staff there have taken a pay cut - but even so... The theatre industry is going through an unprecedented period right now - and we all want the sector to return as quickly as possible. But there are serious questions to be asked about how theatres operate - certainly those who receive ACE funding.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 15:05:29 GMT
Speak for yourself. As a massive Star Wars fan this news actually excites me as it's a rare chance to see the film on the big screen as it was intended. Can of worms you’ve opened there though... will they be the original cuts or the updated and toyed with George Lucas ones that replaced the original cinema release? Exciting news though. I’ve only seen episodes 1, 7, 8 and 9 on the big screen so I might pop along - I had tickets to watch The Mandalorian in the cinema too before we went on lockdown that I sadly had to skip.
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Post by vickyg on Jun 23, 2020 15:23:09 GMT
I'm *so* excited by today's relaxations. Get me into the National Gallery right this minute! To think of the 6 Titian Poesie paintings hanging on the wall together for the first time in over 400 yrs with no one looking at them is so sad! Hopefully they will be able to open the exhibition and the usual galleries although I'm sure some of the small rooms will be unusable.
With no theatre likely for several months, I only have the paintings to save me!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 15:27:49 GMT
I'm *so* excited by today's relaxations. Get me into the National Gallery right this minute! To think of the 6 Titian Poesie paintings hanging on the wall together for the first time in over 400 yrs with no one looking at them is so sad! Hopefully they will be able to open the exhibition and the usual galleries although I'm sure some of the small rooms will be unusable. With no theatre likely for several months, I only have the paintings to save me! Yes but getting there will be a nightmare on public transport. Those underground images I keep seeing are frightful and whilst there are other forms of public transport, I don’t want to make it more difficult for people getting to work by making it busier. It’ll be interesting to see what TFL have to say about the new announcements.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 15:39:10 GMT
I'm *so* excited by today's relaxations. Get me into the National Gallery right this minute! To think of the 6 Titian Poesie paintings hanging on the wall together for the first time in over 400 yrs with no one looking at them is so sad! Hopefully they will be able to open the exhibition and the usual galleries although I'm sure some of the small rooms will be unusable. With no theatre likely for several months, I only have the paintings to save me! Yes but getting there will be a nightmare on public transport. Those underground images I keep seeing are frightful and whilst there are other forms of public transport, I don’t want to make it more difficult for people getting to work by making it busier. It’ll be interesting to see what TFL have to say about the new announcements. I've been getting tube/train into work two or three days a week over the last couple of weeks and it's always really empty. I think the media might perhaps be picking images for the sake of a story not for the sake of accuracy... Anyway, if we're moving back to some sort of normality, that means using public transport - most of us have to do it sooner or later. Agree that opening museums and galleries will make a massive difference, that's really welcome news.
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Post by vickyg on Jun 23, 2020 16:15:08 GMT
Yes but getting there will be a nightmare on public transport. Those underground images I keep seeing are frightful and whilst there are other forms of public transport, I don’t want to make it more difficult for people getting to work by making it busier. It’ll be interesting to see what TFL have to say about the new announcements. I've been getting tube/train into work two or three days a week over the last couple of weeks and it's always really empty. I think the media might perhaps be picking images for the sake of a story not for the sake of accuracy... Anyway, if we're moving back to some sort of normality, that means using public transport - most of us have to do it sooner or later. Agree that opening museums and galleries will make a massive difference, that's really welcome news. Yes I have been travelling on the northern line at rush hour since the beginning of lockdown and there hasn't been a single journey on which I haven't been able to *easily* practice social distancing. Even doubling the number of people on any train I've been on would not have posed a problem. Even in the pre-COVID days the northern line in the day at weekends was not usually busy outside of Leicester Sq type areas, so as long as people do as asked and take the minimum number of stops on the tube and walk and cycle further, I'm optimistic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 16:26:09 GMT
I've been getting tube/train into work two or three days a week over the last couple of weeks and it's always really empty. I think the media might perhaps be picking images for the sake of a story not for the sake of accuracy... Anyway, if we're moving back to some sort of normality, that means using public transport - most of us have to do it sooner or later. Agree that opening museums and galleries will make a massive difference, that's really welcome news. Yes I have been travelling on the northern line at rush hour since the beginning of lockdown and there hasn't been a single journey on which I haven't been able to *easily* practice social distancing. Even doubling the number of people on any train I've been on would not have posed a problem. Even in the pre-COVID days the northern line in the day at weekends was not usually busy outside of Leicester Sq type areas, so as long as people do as asked and take the minimum number of stops on the tube and walk and cycle further, I'm optimistic. I walked home after work on Friday via Soho, where I got a takeaway negroni to see me through the 2 hour walk - it was lovely! Am hearing rumours that the NT has opened some sort of bar on the South Bank so am heading there after work tomorrow to check it out...
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Post by vickyg on Jun 23, 2020 16:31:27 GMT
Yes I have been travelling on the northern line at rush hour since the beginning of lockdown and there hasn't been a single journey on which I haven't been able to *easily* practice social distancing. Even doubling the number of people on any train I've been on would not have posed a problem. Even in the pre-COVID days the northern line in the day at weekends was not usually busy outside of Leicester Sq type areas, so as long as people do as asked and take the minimum number of stops on the tube and walk and cycle further, I'm optimistic. I walked home after work on Friday via Soho, where I got a takeaway negroni to see me through the 2 hour walk - it was lovely! Am hearing rumours that the NT has opened some sort of bar on the South Bank so am heading there after work tomorrow to check it out... I walked past the NT on Friday after work and there were street food vans and some kind of beer selling going on. Couldn't tell where the beer was coming from but it looked inviting and was definitely plentiful! It was lovely to see more (responsible, social distancing, but relaxed) people around being summery. There were also real life public toilets open!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 16:33:55 GMT
vickyg The toilet info is GOLD! Me and a friend have been toilet spotting since the start of May...!
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Post by baguette on Jun 23, 2020 16:38:16 GMT
I'm somewhat baffled by the outrage on twitter about todays relaxations in relation to the none relaxation of Theatre. Surely nobody expected theatres to suddenly just be allowed to open and put shows on? That's why everything has been postponed. I'm a bit confused by the response. Plus he did specifically mention Theatre and trying to get it back up and running ASAP, which i thought showed an acknowledgement of the importance. I believe that he has said that theatres can open, but not put on live performances, now this to some used to going to the west end or working in the West End might seem contradictory but many regional theatres and other London venues are far more than their auditorium and far more than putting on a panto or musical, so the building being allowed to be physically open and being allowed to start up some aspects of all the other things they do, is good news. It's a start but no other major country in Europe restarted their theatre like this, as far as I know. Other venues have opened to paying audiences (with caps and safe-spaced seating) and social distancing on stage, plus a pathway to full opening. Local theatre news (France again). One of my locals has a full programme for the autumn season (announced yesterday), which starts in November rather than traditional September. The capacity is capped at 1,000 and the first three rows closest to the stage are closed. No social distancing between seats. They have also provisionallly planned for mask-wearing, disinfection of shoes (a new one to me!) and handgel stations. They have a contingency plan to add shows in September/October if the social distancing requirement in seated venues is lifted earlier.
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Post by zahidf on Jun 23, 2020 16:39:33 GMT
What if a theatre films a play and then plays it exclusively at the venue? You have to pay (x) amount to watch it and can't see it anywhere else?
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Post by baguette on Jun 23, 2020 16:45:04 GMT
What if a theatre films a play and then plays it exclusively at the venue? You have to pay (x) amount to watch it and can't see it anywhere else? The argument is that the risk to the health of stage performers is too great for any of them to appear on stage at all. So that would presumably apply during filming.....
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