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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 8:44:58 GMT
If theatres do go bust through it still be relatively easily for new companies to form afterwards. But with no where to perform if no theatres..... |
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Post by talkingheads on May 21, 2020 9:13:14 GMT
If theatres do go bust through it still be relatively easily for new companies to form afterwards. But with no where to perform if no theatres..... But surely even if theatre companies go bust, which hopefully won't happen, but if it does theatres are still physically there, it will just mean new companies taking them over I imagine. |
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Post by basdfg on May 21, 2020 9:25:52 GMT
But with no where to perform if no theatres..... But surely even if theatre companies go bust, which hopefully won't happen, but if it does theatres are still physically there, it will just mean new companies taking them over I imagine. Yeah. It's unlikely theatres will have been demolished for Re-development in two years. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 10:02:05 GMT
But surely even if theatre companies go bust, which hopefully won't happen, but if it does theatres are still physically there, it will just mean new companies taking them over I imagine. Yeah. It's unlikely theatres will have been demolished for Re-development in two years. But what if the company owning the building go bust? Wouldn a newly operating theatre company be able just to take on the lease?? In Brighton we have had an empty theatre (hippodrome) for several decades. Why hasn’t a theatre company just taken it on? |
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Post by duncan on May 21, 2020 10:16:43 GMT
The main issue is that if the company goes into liquidation then anyone could buy the assets from the liquidators - and if one of the assets is the actual theatre building then there could be problems. Hopefully another theatre related company (or Newco) would buy it and keep it as a theatre space but the cynic in me thinks its more likely to be sold to someone who sees a prime site for student accommodation or a Wetherspoons.
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Post by crowblack on May 21, 2020 10:21:34 GMT
In Brighton we have had an empty theatre (hippodrome) for several decades. Why hasn’t a theatre company just taken it on? Historic venues like that don't suit the needs of modern audiences and cost an arm and a leg to refurbish, an army of craftspeople to conserve and restore plasterwork, asbestos all over the place, architecture that is very difficult for access needs, health and safety etc.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 10:38:06 GMT
In Brighton we have had an empty theatre (hippodrome) for several decades. Why hasn’t a theatre company just taken it on? Historic venues like that don't suit the needs of modern audiences and cost an arm and a leg to refurbish, an army of craftspeople to conserve and restore plasterwork, asbestos all over the place, architecture that is very difficult for access needs, health and safety etc.. . Not the case with hippodrome as it’s very much wanted as a theatrical venue by lots. I think it’s something to do with who owns the lease and when that runs out (if it hasn’t already turned into a cinema/hotel spa) then supposedly there is the will and the money so it will hopefully come back to us (Side point - we have an industrial port just outside of brighton and I once did a tour. There is a massive bit of completely empty land in the port and they said someone owns it and has been offered all the money in the world to sell it but would rather keep completely uselessly sat there doing nothing.) |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 22:40:40 GMT
The main issue is that if the company goes into liquidation then anyone could buy the assets from the liquidators - and if one of the assets is the actual theatre building then there could be problems. Hopefully another theatre related company (or Newco) would buy it and keep it as a theatre space but the cynic in me thinks its more likely to be sold to someone who sees a prime site for student accommodation or a Wetherspoons. Not cynical, more that the liquidator is required to take the deal that is in the best interests of the company's creditors. And if no-one wants to buy it the lease (or land if it is owned outright by the company in trouble) reverts to the Crown Estate when the company is dissolved. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 3:42:43 GMT
Historic venues like that don't suit the needs of modern audiences and cost an arm and a leg to refurbish, an army of craftspeople to conserve and restore plasterwork, asbestos all over the place, architecture that is very difficult for access needs, health and safety etc.. Not the case with hippodrome as it’s very much wanted as a theatrical venue by lots. I think it’s something to do with who owns the lease and when that runs out (if it hasn’t already turned into a cinema/hotel spa) then supposedly there is the will and the money so it will hopefully come back to us (Side point - we have an industrial port just outside of brighton and I once did a tour. There is a massive bit of completely empty land in the port and they said someone owns it and has been offered all the money in the world to sell it but would rather keep completely uselessly sat there doing nothing.) There's also the issue of getting permission for any development or change of use. Local authorities have their own objectives and to a considerable extent get to set their own rules and pass judgment on any complaint about those rules. If the local authority has its fingers in pies elsewhere it will block anything that goes against those interests. |
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Post by crowblack on May 23, 2020 7:47:14 GMT
If the local authority has its fingers in pies elsewhere it will block anything that goes against those interests. Huge building in an area where house prices are soaring... I've seen so many historic - and often listed - buildings in my home town bite the dust or end up as doll-house facades for private flats. Oh dear, it was listed but now the roof has fallen in / it's been set on fire we'll just have to knock it down and that shiny new block can go up... |
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Post by stevej678 on May 25, 2020 8:16:44 GMT
All events at the Southbank Centre to be cancelled until November according to The Stage. The same report says it's highly likely that the venue will remain closed until at least April 2021.
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Post by n1david on May 25, 2020 8:19:27 GMT
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Post by NeilVHughes on May 25, 2020 8:27:04 GMT
Worrying and tough times ahead.
If the stalwarts are in trouble the rest of the industry must be close to collapse, there is no easy solution, once in hibernation the resumption will take longer an next spring is becoming the reality.
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Post by lynette on May 25, 2020 9:55:00 GMT
It is a very great shame especially now as we have the virus under control in London, mainly, not indefinitely and we are going to quarantine new arrivals who come into the London orbit from the airports. So in reality, it would be ‘safe’ to go to a controlled environment albeit with many people. I think a theatre slightly more controlled than say a football match. But you can correct me there those of you who know better. With our balmy weather ( also barmy) why not have outdoor events on the South bank? Get some temp seating up with well spaced sections, take the financial hit, maybe get sponsors - there are still some generous and solvent bods out there - to keep the flame alight, to keep the actors and creatives working. Collateral stuff: make the parking free all round the area. Stuff the mayor who is making me very angry with his car bashing. Not the time, mate. Allow some of that lovely street food stuff to be there, again spaced and controlled. There are ways. We are not going to stuff ourselves into a WE Victorian theatre with puny loos but we might take the kids down to the river to see a show. We might.
Ps Xmas we wear coats and I believe we still have electricity so why not shows outdoors then in similar fashion?
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Post by theatreian on May 25, 2020 9:58:35 GMT
Yes I am sure in this interim period outdoors is probably the way to go. It certainly seems that outdoors businesses are being the first to open and cafes etc serving outdoors are likely to be allowed soon. Just depends how quickly outdoors events can be planned etc I guess.
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Post by djdan14 on May 26, 2020 16:35:41 GMT
All Selladoor productions gone until 2021
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Post by alece10 on May 26, 2020 17:59:30 GMT
Some good news. E mail from Chichester to say South Pacific same dates next year and will transfer your booking over to same day in 2021. Hope its same cast as well as I'm only going to hear/see Mr Ovenden.
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Post by drmaplewood on May 27, 2020 7:42:54 GMT
Hamlet at the Young Vic has been postponed with the promise or it being rescheduled.
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Post by n1david on May 27, 2020 10:31:27 GMT
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Post by kimbahorel on May 27, 2020 11:12:41 GMT
The Phantom tour has been cancelled!
I really feel for the cast esp one of my faves was in it. I hope that they told the cast & crew before it was announced on instagram and twitter though...
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Post by adolphus on May 28, 2020 13:23:44 GMT
An email from the Donmar- Force Majeure postponed
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Post by lou on May 28, 2020 15:54:10 GMT
Just received an email from the Birmingham Hippodrome saying it will remain closed until the 2nd November.
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Post by richey on May 28, 2020 21:58:45 GMT
Hello Dolly postponed til 2022
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Post by alece10 on May 29, 2020 5:31:34 GMT
Well that's the Last of my 2020 booked shows now cancelled or postponed. I was just awaiting news on this and Joseph which has also been postponed.
I'm just left with Cilla in November which im hoping will still happen.
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Post by fiyero on May 29, 2020 9:33:21 GMT
The Joseph postponement is official: / |
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