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Post by indis on Mar 22, 2018 20:29:23 GMT
a trailer withour singing, strange
also, i don’t like the trousers for Elsa AT ALL 🙈
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Post by nash16 on Mar 23, 2018 1:02:20 GMT
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 23, 2018 1:15:25 GMT
It is still a massively commercial title - it will sell with or without rave reviews.
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Post by Jon on Mar 23, 2018 1:32:10 GMT
It's selling very well so it's critic proof but TBH I would rather to see the new Broadway revival of My Fair Lady reopen Drury Lane and Frozen goes to the Prince Edward replacing Aladdin
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 23, 2018 1:38:08 GMT
It was never supposed to be a critical hit, it's gonna sell regardless of the reviews, like Aladdin and all the other Disney shows since the end of the 90s.
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Post by ali973 on Mar 23, 2018 6:21:02 GMT
I'm sad that the most talked about international show on this board is Frozen. Anyway, relax. I'm sure of all the new shows of this Broadway season, it is the most likely to transfer to London, Germany, Japan and who knows where else.
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Post by musicalmarge on Mar 23, 2018 6:57:59 GMT
Reviews!!! Eek.....
Jesse Green, The New York Times: Forget girl power, sisterly love and the high-belt clarion call of "Let It Go." Anxiety over the handling of a precious gift is the theme that comes through loudest in "Frozen," the sometimes rousing, often dull, alternately dopey and anguished Disney musical that opened on Broadway on Thursday.
Matt Windman, amNY: The continued popularity of "Frozen" (which grossed $1.2 billion when it debuted at the movies in 2013 and has morphed into a phenomenon) probably explains why it has been adapted for the Broadway stage in such a straightforward, shallow and unimaginative manner, creating a disappointing and empty product.
Christopher Kelly, NJ.com: The Broadway version, though, is the virtual opposite: a play-it-by-the-book rendering of the story that, in refusing to take any real risks, ends up undermining the story's core message -- namely, that sometimes you've got to "let it go," and let your freak flag fly. For a show about magic and wonder, there's shockingly little on display here.
Charles McNulty, Los Angeles Times: "Frozen" likely won't have many repeat customers, but its agreeable competence will satisfy hardcore fans who are curious to understand more about the plucky, climate-meddling heroines who devise their own happy ending through sisterly solidarity.
Chris Jones, Chicago Tribune: Vastly improved from its rocky Denver tryout, director Michael Grandage's heavily sold production of Disney's "Frozen" is set to open here Thursday night, replete with richer storytelling, less extraneous comedy and with its crucial pair of sisters, who in Denver seemed all iced up in some chilly corner of the castle, finally letting go enough emotionally to thaw the center of their mutually dependent story.
Alexis Soloski, The Guardian: Broadway's Frozen is a good show. With its music, its dance, its flurry of likable leads, and snowball after snowball of son and lumière, some of it newfangled, some of it stretching back to 19th-century melodrama, it offers most of the pleasures that we count on Broadway musicals to provide. But even with the addition of a dozen new songs by the composers Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez, an enhanced book by Jennifer Lee, and the interventions of director Michael Grandage and scenic and costume designer Christopher Oram, it rarely feels like more than the movie and sometimes it feels like less.
Diane Snyder, The Telegraph: They play it safe. While the film was Disney's non-traditional take on the time-honoured princess tale - with spirited sisters finding their way back to each other instead of marrying handsome princes - this is not a daring reinvention of the material, but a repackaging of the film for the stage. It's the surest way to please the movie's faithful fans. Although darker than its predecessor in tone and design (sets and costumes are by Olivier winner Christopher Oram), this new Frozen is brisk and entertaining for most of its two hours and 20 minutes, with the same characters that won the hearts of filmgoers brought to three-dimensional life.
David Rooney, Hollywood Reporter: Under the direction of Michael Grandage, Frozen doesn't entirely go wrong, but it does evince signs of the struggle to establish a consistent, unifying tone and to settle on a center in a story inherently bifurcated by having two heroines kept apart for most of the action. It ends up being merely adequate, a bland facsimile when it should have been something memorable in its own right.
Kelly Connolly, Entertainment Weekly: Grandage is a director accustomed to Shakespeare and therefore to people trapped by secrets - even in the midst of glittering sets and impressive snow tricks, the bond between the sisters effectively and literally takes the spotlight. Fans of the movie will be pleased to find Anna and Elsa safe in Levy and Murin's gloved hands, and doubters may just find their hearts thawed.
Joe Dziemianowicz, The Daily News: Disney powers-that-be, along with director Michael Grandage, have basically plopped the cartoon about two sisters estranged by and bound by magic onto the stage. Playing it so safe is like wearing boots for a spin at a skating rink. You won't fall down - but you won't dazzle either.
Johnny Oleksinski, The New York Post: For its new stage musical "Frozen," Disney should've heeded the sage advice of Queen Elsa: Let it go. Broadway should be the place to see what you can do, to test the limits and break through. No right, no wrong, no rules for thee - you're free! But that's wishful thinking. With "Frozen," the House of Mouse doesn't let us in, doesn't let us see. Stays the good Mouse it always has to be. Conceals, doesn't feel. Doesn't let us know. Well, here's what I know: "Frozen" is not a very good show.
Robert Hofler, TheWrap: In addition to Oram's monumental icescapes, Finn Ross' video and projection design gives the impression that the St. James stage, proscenium and beyond is freezing before our very eyes. Kudos, too, to Jeremy Chernick's special effects and Peter Hylenski's sound design, which, when it isn't blasting out Levy's high notes, manages to make us believe that a new ice age is upon us.
Greg Evans, Deadline: Directed by Tony-winning Michael Grandage (Red), the stage Frozen, opening tonight, doesn't consistently live up to "Let It Go," its book by Jennifer Lee (Zootopia) often feeling rushed, more concerned with hitting the movie's beats come hell or cold water than taking the time to just enjoy the characters that the audience is primed to love.
Peter Marks, Washington Post: Winning over the uninitiated, though, may be a tougher task for the eagerly anticipated musical that had its official opening Thursday night at the St. James Theatre. What may prevent "Frozen" from appealing to more sophisticated theater crowds is the unfulfilled promise of the plot. We're teased in this venture with the idea of an animated story wrought in three dimensions with more psychological subtlety than is the custom in Disney musicals. Because "Frozen" attempts to traverse the tender and intimate terrain of trauma and loss of love. But it never achieves that necessary climax - paradoxical in a show of this title - when a spectator's heart is able to melt.
Marilyn Stasio, Variety: The theater's legendary powers notwithstanding, there's no way that the all-too-solid stage of the St. James Theater can approximate the technical virtuosity of a movie setting. Rather, the magic of the theater comes from its power to open up the world of the imagination. Emerging from the dancing lights of the aurora borealis (as fashioned by lighting designer Natasha Katz) projected on the scrim (by video designer Finn Ross), Christopher Oram's sets are highly stylized and very theatrical, if not transporting.
Adam Feldman, Time Out New York: It would be one thing if Frozen's stiffness were in the service of a deeper take on the material, but its already shaky plot seems even less secure, too thin a rope to support the musical's dutiful climb up the narrative mountain. While the best songs from the movie-including "Love Is an Open Door," an ebullient duet for Anna and her dashing suitor, Hans (John Riddle)-still pop, the new ones are less strong; aside from an incongruous but zippy comic number at a sauna, they feel like heavy filler, especially in the busy and slushy finale.
Roma Torre, NY1: Full disclosure: "Frozen" is not my favorite Disney princess movie. Loved the message and the song, but the story seemed pretty convoluted even by Disney standards. As a musical, the plotting remains weak, but there is a special magic that only live theatre can produce, and it's working a charming spell on the Broadway stage.
Tim Teeman, The Daily Beast: There at the end are two women leading the company into their bows, playing two characters not needing men to complete them, who are confident in themselves and loving of each other. Elsa and Anna are leaders and examples. That exhibition of female power-still, sadly, a radical concept in Hollywood and on Broadway-is to be welcomed, and particularly for young girls and boys to see, but this musical feels oddly frozen in its delivery of i
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Post by musicalmarge on Mar 23, 2018 6:59:49 GMT
I’ve said if 1265 times. If they had a massive amazing hydraulic ice castle this show would have been a success. Without it just it’s magical enough. Seems the critics agreed.....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 7:27:46 GMT
Do we honestly need two threads where we are talking about the reviews for this show? Until a transfer is announced I don’t feel it needs to be discussed over on the musicals board. I can just see it turning it into the DEH thread which is full of several pages talking about a show which has no transfer confirmed.
Anyway, I don’t mean to be grumpy. I understand the frustrations of the critics but I think this is sure to do well. If we hadn’t seen the film then expectations for the castle wouldn’t be so high. It still looks like a great production from the media released this week.
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Post by viserys on Mar 23, 2018 7:51:54 GMT
Do we honestly need two threads where we are talking about the reviews for this show? Until a transfer is announced I don’t feel it needs to be discussed over on the musicals board. I can just see it turning it into the DEH thread which is full of several pages talking about a show which has no transfer confirmed. Anyway, I don’t mean to be grumpy. I understand the frustrations of the critics but I think this is sure to do well. If we hadn’t seen the film then expectations for the castle wouldn’t be so high. It still looks like a great production from the media released this week. I agree, the thread on the musicals board could be merged here for everyone who wants to discuss Frozen as it is now and a new thread can be created once a West End transfer is announced. It'll most definitely come - it's a critic-proof money spinner for Disney, way more so than Aladdin that came over pretty quickly and despite its many flaws isn't doing badly. I will also most definitely come to Germany and the Netherlands. The Lion King was extended in the Netherlands now despite selling badly - it feels to me that they just try to make it run a while longer to prepare for Frozen. Same in Germany where Stage Entertainment is grasping wildly at everything they can get their hands on such as Bat out of Hell (grrr) and the Cirque du Soleil's Paramour to fill their overpriced seats in oversized theatres. Disney is the only money spinner they have left.
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Post by Michael on Mar 23, 2018 8:57:31 GMT
Do we honestly need two threads where we are talking about the reviews for this show? Until a transfer is announced I don’t feel it needs to be discussed over on the musicals board. I can just see it turning it into the DEH thread which is full of several pages talking about a show which has no transfer confirmed. I agree, the thread on the musicals board could be merged here for everyone who wants to discuss Frozen as it is now and a new thread can be created once a West End transfer is announced. It'll most definitely come - it's a critic-proof money spinner for Disney, way more so than Aladdin that came over pretty quickly and despite its many flaws isn't doing badly. Done. Please use the “report post” button next time so that we staff get notified. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 9:55:54 GMT
It'll probably be avoided by all the parents who can't face another year of "Let It Go" from their kids.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 10:44:52 GMT
It was never supposed to be a critical hit, it's gonna sell regardless of the reviews, like Aladdin and all the other Disney shows since the end of the 90s. The Lion King, Mary Poppins actually were good shows. And won an award Beauty and the Beast won the Olivier Award
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 23, 2018 12:14:18 GMT
It was never supposed to be a critical hit, it's gonna sell regardless of the reviews, like Aladdin and all the other Disney shows since the end of the 90s. The Lion King, Mary Poppins actually were good shows. And won an award Beauty and the Beast won the Olivier Award Both beauty and the beast and lion king premiered before the end of the 90s, didn't they...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 21:07:16 GMT
The Lion King, Mary Poppins actually were good shows. And won an award Beauty and the Beast won the Olivier Award Both beauty and the beast and lion king premiered before the end of the 90s, didn't they... true
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Post by indis on Mar 25, 2018 10:49:34 GMT
will there be a trailer with music too sometimes? the current one is strange
anyone got an explanation for Elsas pants? Why? they are not in the film, why now? how did she get them? magic? so weird, don’t like them at all
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 3:31:08 GMT
Hopefully they'll get two young unknowns for the leads - the show will sell itself and doesn't need star names so it's a great opportunity to give young performers their big chance - much like Idina and Kristin Chenoweth in the original Wicked. I generally agree with you, but Chenoweth wasn't an unknown anymore when Wicked happened - she won her Tony four years before Wicked... She still was unknown. I do not think anyone knew her from Charlie
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 7:32:49 GMT
With all due respect, aren't you in Australia? How up on the day-to-day life of Broadway theatre are you really? Also, it's not a binary, either super-famous or completely-unknown, there are shades of grey in the middle and she certainly wouldn't have been the latter by that point. (Nor would Idina, actually, RENT was a reasonably big deal pre-Wicked and she'd done a stint in Aida but there we are.)
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Post by QueerTheatre on Mar 26, 2018 12:09:14 GMT
will there be a trailer with music too sometimes? the current one is strange anyone got an explanation for Elsas pants? Why? they are not in the film, why now? how did she get them? magic? so weird, don’t like them at all I think she just... got changed? It is possible.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 13:04:13 GMT
WOMEN in TROUSERS? Blimey, we'll be able to vote in elections and buy property next!
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Post by ali973 on Mar 26, 2018 13:04:13 GMT
Oh my dear child, just go with it.
FYI in the Denver run she had a short sleepwear short dress. I think they changed it because the Denver costume looked awful, she was barefoot and to tick off that not all girls wear dresses statement.
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Post by ali973 on Mar 26, 2018 13:08:30 GMT
I generally agree with you, but Chenoweth wasn't an unknown anymore when Wicked happened - she won her Tony four years before Wicked... She still was unknown. I do not think anyone knew her from Charlie I think there's a difference between "unknown" versus "not a star". Although Idina and Kristen weren't as famous as they are now, they were considered Broadway royalty even then - and well known in the musical theatre circuit. Household name, no? In a way, they still aren't but they do qualify as stars. I'd say the same applies to Caissey Levy who isn't a star star, but definitely very well known as a Broadway performer with a solid CV. An unknown would be a Hailey Kilgore (Once on this Island) or Charlie Stemp - both of which literally just graduated and have very little professional, let alone, Broadway experience.
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Post by 49thand8th on Mar 26, 2018 16:29:30 GMT
will there be a trailer with music too sometimes? the current one is strange anyone got an explanation for Elsas pants? Why? they are not in the film, why now? how did she get them? magic? so weird, don’t like them at all The creative team made a change. Elsa went to the magical pants store. The end.
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Post by indis on Mar 26, 2018 16:32:33 GMT
🤣😁🤣 still don’t like the pants 🤣
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Post by Stasia on Mar 27, 2018 6:19:58 GMT
Does anyone know how to stop nash16 from opening so many threads on Frozen in the Musicals section? Admins are closing them, but he is very persistent:)
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