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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 14, 2018 15:07:31 GMT
That is absolutely the case. I love it but I also don't listen to it a whole lot. The show is speedy, efficient, and heartfelt.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 14, 2018 14:49:54 GMT
I really like the idea of a new musical in the West End, and the Phoenix definitely needs something a bit special to make it rise from obscurity but... the show’s title... it doesn’t make sense, does it? I’m sure it will, if you go and see it, but it doesn’t exactly let an audience in. And then the subject matter... Yes, 9/11 affected us all, but it’s something that really ‘belongs’ to New York, and I wonder if that’s why it’s playing to packed houses there. I think I’d feel it had more resonance if I saw it on Broadway rather than just off Charing Cross Road. That's interesting, because I first saw the show at Ford's Theatre in Washington DC and wasn't sure how it would play here in NYC due to the location. But lo and behold! Also, musicals about a specific event or country have done well outside their sphere of direct influence. Remember Evita?
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 12, 2018 15:36:41 GMT
Why is there no West End equivalent to IBDB? It would make threads like this so much easier!
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 9, 2018 18:54:00 GMT
Btw, what's with the Adam Ant hussar jacket? I've never seen the stage musical, but in the novel and every screen version I've seen he's a civilian. I think that was the Barbican costume. It never really happened again and now looks more like a red xylophone.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 8, 2018 21:47:05 GMT
About 20 years ago, I was seeing the Les Miz tour with my mom, and there were three understudies on (from what I remember, Valjean, Enjolras, and Marius). I was very excited. My mom scoffed, "Then why aren't we paying understudy prices?!" (Even though she had no idea who they were, much less who the full-time performers were.) She ended up loving them and the entire show, but the mentality can be taken much further and much more seriously by more annoying and aggravating people.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 8, 2018 21:17:02 GMT
It's not necessarily idealism. It's because many other theatregoers aren't like us. Poll tourists leaving (generally) the more touristy shows and 90% of them won't know who they just saw, and it doesn't matter to them. Even my parents, who have seen Les Miz and Book of Mormon multiple times with me, can probably only name a couple of actors they saw in it, even if they had a great time. My parents saw the national tour of The Wiz and Annie back in the 70s and 80s, but they didn't know or care that they'd seen Molly Ringwald as an orphan. (My mom did recognize Lilias White as the woman who'd played Dorothy years later, but she wasn't why they went.)
A good friend of mine (also here in NYC) is a frequent but casual theatregoer. She is amazed whenever I can remember who I saw in what. She just remembers that she saw a show and enjoyed it and maybe knows the names of a couple people she sees in one season. But she keeps tabs on what she wants to see — just not who she wants to see. (However, she can remember what she ate and at what restaurant and with which friend at the drop of a hat.)
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 8, 2018 21:01:30 GMT
There are definitely shows I've gone to because I liked one or a number of people in the cast, but generally that's not the make or break because I know if it hadn't been them, it likely would've been someone else of that same "type" who I already like.
I'm pretty glad I saw Alan Rickman in Seminar, though...
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 8, 2018 20:17:46 GMT
I can see them doing an arena tour, or one to bigger houses for long stops, but not a national tour in a traditional sense.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 8, 2018 19:47:28 GMT
Isn't going to see the same show dozens of a times rather more obsessive than posting insults on Twitter? Not necessarily. One is definitely a more negative execution of the obsession, though.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 8, 2018 17:45:17 GMT
A good friend of mine was a longtime writer for a well-loved niche magazine. It was in her contract that she had to engage with readers on twitter (which she'd established well before working for them), and, I think, in the comments. She said she generally didn't mind since people weren't all that rude (at least compared to other publications), but I can see how in a slightly different or more popular format, it could be awful.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 8, 2018 13:56:47 GMT
I always wanted to meet him. I loved how he didn't speak with condescension or artificial wonder.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 7, 2018 19:06:14 GMT
I'm still laughing at some of the comments on instagram: My gosh, Larry be looking fine 👌 Since when is larry Murphy hot?? oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! daddy!!!!!!!!!!! he’s even more daddy than Michael park I mean, they're not wrong... http://instagr.am/p/BjuwNNzABQt
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 7, 2018 17:47:59 GMT
Well, of course people shouldn't be rude to actors on social media. I'm not sure what kind of answer you're looking for here?
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 7, 2018 17:34:00 GMT
I just don't think it happens as much to theatre actors because it's easier to be rude or at least abrasive to a TV/film celebrity who you can assume (however wrongfully) isn't reading their own mentions.
I will say there was an entertainingly tense exchange between Russell Crowe and Andrew Varela back in the day:
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 7, 2018 17:25:27 GMT
What is everyones view on this sort of behaviour? Which behavior? Toxic fans or actors being silly? I am reminded of stuff like this (someone had actually tweeted her that Eponine wasn't the role for her): All fandoms can be terrible. But luckily I don't think theatre fans assault in bulk like film/tv fans, simply because of the live nature of the beast. A good thing to keep in mind:
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 7, 2018 17:11:00 GMT
I'm CRYING over how old I feel (but also this is shaping up to be a great tour cast).
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 7, 2018 14:05:02 GMT
I think the smashing a mobile with a hammer thing would be like magicians used to do with smashing a bloke's watch into a hankie and then later giving it back perfectly ok but sometimes much later than the smashing so the bloke is left in terrible suspense. Always funny. Yeah, would love to see. Smashing a (prop) phone was the pre-show announcement when I saw 110 in the Shade at Pasadena Playhouse 10+ years ago. It was very effective and should be done more often!
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 6, 2018 19:06:52 GMT
I'm glad! So you saw Erich Bergen's first performance. I've been on the fence about the show, but he'll probably push me off the edge, finally.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 5, 2018 14:12:47 GMT
I love Melbourne and how the Princess is so easy to get to and it's so easy to find food before a show. I saw Born Yesterday at MTC last year and it was a wonderful experience as well!
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 5, 2018 14:09:59 GMT
Last night I saw Once On This Island. Won the lotto for $49.50 SRO tickets. There was probably about 80-100 people there trying to win tickets! Broadway is crazy! That many people wanting to stand and at £37 a ticket? Would never happen in London. The production was absolutely stunning, and the staging was so well done. I didn't know much about the show before going in but the score was pleasant, even if the story was a bit strange. That's interesting — I went on Memorial Day weekend and from what I could tell, most of the people entering were people who'd lost the Wicked lotto. It wasn't quite that many — maybe 60 people? And I won. I definitely have qualms with the story (more how it ends than anything else), but the production is beautiful.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 4, 2018 21:24:23 GMT
I've been on Twitter for 10 years and a few others for almost as long. I have never wanted to check one DURING a show. Sometimes I might make a mental note to post about something funny or weird that happened onstage, but that stuff can wait. If something else is happening that I'm interested in, it'll probably still be there for me to read when I'm done with the show
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 4, 2018 15:14:14 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 4, 2018 14:24:41 GMT
Harris is fairly thoughtful here. The "shoulda told an usher!" comments are short-sighted.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 1, 2018 22:28:23 GMT
Stephen Oremus is a badass; you never know.
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