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Post by firefingers on May 4, 2021 13:18:44 GMT
Good to see you now resorting to what is now a personal attack. I'm not going to let you present what is your view as fact. There are two sides of the fence - people who want to wear masks and people who don't. I've worn one like most for the best part of a year. June 21st was the date to end all social restrictions and in my eyes that means masks should become voluntary. Removing the mask IS a personal attack. If you didn't want to be called selfish you shouldn't be selfish, it's literally that easy. "The government man said I wouldn't have to so I'm not gonna wahhhhh". Grow up and take some responsibility for yourself and those around you. Again, you believe your dislike of a piece of cloth trumps my not wanting to die. If you think the reflects badly on you maybe you should change your stance? And if you think it doesn't reflect badly on you maybe you are beyond hope.
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Post by Mark on May 4, 2021 13:22:55 GMT
Good to see you now resorting to what is now a personal attack. I'm not going to let you present what is your view as fact. There are two sides of the fence - people who want to wear masks and people who don't. I've worn one like most for the best part of a year. June 21st was the date to end all social restrictions and in my eyes that means masks should become voluntary. Removing the mask IS a personal attack. If you didn't want to be called selfish you shouldn't be selfish, it's literally that easy. "The government man said I wouldn't have to so I'm not gonna wahhhhh". Grow up and take some responsibility for yourself and those around you. Again, you believe your dislike of a piece of cloth trumps my not wanting to die. If you think the reflects badly on you maybe you should change your stance? And if you think it doesn't reflect badly on you maybe you are beyond hope. Oh do get off your high horse. I'm done being lectured by someone I've never met. Happy forever mask wearing to you.
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Post by firefingers on May 4, 2021 13:31:49 GMT
Removing the mask IS a personal attack. If you didn't want to be called selfish you shouldn't be selfish, it's literally that easy. "The government man said I wouldn't have to so I'm not gonna wahhhhh". Grow up and take some responsibility for yourself and those around you. Again, you believe your dislike of a piece of cloth trumps my not wanting to die. If you think the reflects badly on you maybe you should change your stance? And if you think it doesn't reflect badly on you maybe you are beyond hope. Oh do get off your high horse. I'm done being lectured by someone I've never met. Happy forever mask wearing to you. "Oh no, the nasty man has shown what a selfish person I am, something I myself acknowledged, better run away! Maybe if I run away I can escape the nagging doubts that their right too." I'm looking forward to not wearing a mask, when people are actually vaccinated so I know I won't infect them and they won't infect and no more people have to die or lose loved ones. I've been perfectly clear on that but given your comprehension skills would give a plank of wood a run for its money I'm not surprised you didn't pick up on it.
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Post by Mark on May 4, 2021 13:43:04 GMT
Oh do get off your high horse. I'm done being lectured by someone I've never met. Happy forever mask wearing to you. "Oh no, the nasty man has shown what a selfish person I am, something I myself acknowledged, better run away! Maybe if I run away I can escape the nagging doubts that their right too." I'm looking forward to not wearing a mask, when people are actually vaccinated so I know I won't infect them and they won't infect and no more people have to die or lose loved ones. I've been perfectly clear on that but given your comprehension skills would give a plank of wood a run for its money I'm not surprised you didn't pick up on it. Your only means to respond to my opinion has been to attack me. You are nothing but an internet bully. My opinion is no less valid than yours. You can't and won't bully me into not giving my opinion.
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Post by NeilVHughes on May 4, 2021 13:46:04 GMT
Not a fan of masks and have always understood that wearing a mask was to protect others and will out of respect continue to do so until instructed otherwise which will be when everyone who wants a vaccine has had the opportunity to have one. I am fortunate that in a few weeks will have had both doses but out of respect for those not as fortunate as me wearing a mask for a few extra weeks is a small price I am willing to pay.
We now know that infection is primarily airborne in enclosed spaces in which we spend a lot of time, which by definition sitting in a Theatre and if wearing a mask will reduce the risk of infection even if only slightly when you consider the thousands of people who will attend over the Summer the potential of saving of one life makes it worthwhile.
Also when I start commuting on Public Transport especially over winter will continue to wear one voluntarily.
Once all who want a vaccine have been vaccinated and risk becomes a personal choice then the wearing of masks becomes a personal choice. Let the ones who don’t want a vaccine take the full risk whilst the vaccinated know that living normally has the same if not smaller risk of infection and death than Flu.
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Post by Dawnstar on May 4, 2021 13:50:16 GMT
Maybe theatres should have mask-wearing & non-mask-wearing sections of the audience after 21st June. If I dare venture down to London later this summer (which is by no means certain) I would feel more comfortable if I knew I would be sitting next & near to others who like me will choose continue to wear a mask rather than those like Mark who will refuse to do so after 21st June unless forced by law.
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Post by firefingers on May 4, 2021 13:51:53 GMT
"Oh no, the nasty man has shown what a selfish person I am, something I myself acknowledged, better run away! Maybe if I run away I can escape the nagging doubts that their right too." I'm looking forward to not wearing a mask, when people are actually vaccinated so I know I won't infect them and they won't infect and no more people have to die or lose loved ones. I've been perfectly clear on that but given your comprehension skills would give a plank of wood a run for its money I'm not surprised you didn't pick up on it. Your only means to respond to my opinion has been to attack me. You are nothing but an internet bully. My opinion is no less valid than yours. You can't and won't bully me into not giving my opinion. Thought you said you were done? Couldn't have been wrong about that as well could you? Your opinion is your opinion and mine is mine indeed. You are entitled to give yours and I am entitled to give reasons why it is incorrect and what the sort of person holding that opinion entails. That is free speech. Freedom to say what you like, not freedom from the consequences of what you say. Unfortunately neither science nor the virus particularly care about your opinions on what you feel you should be allowed to do. Playing the victim whilst wanting the to infect people with a virus would be funny if it wasn't so vile.
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Post by Mark on May 4, 2021 14:16:37 GMT
Your only means to respond to my opinion has been to attack me. You are nothing but an internet bully. My opinion is no less valid than yours. You can't and won't bully me into not giving my opinion. Thought you said you were done? Couldn't have been wrong about that as well could you? Your opinion is your opinion and mine is mine indeed. You are entitled to give yours and I am entitled to give reasons why it is incorrect and what the sort of person holding that opinion entails. That is free speech. Freedom to say what you like, not freedom from the consequences of what you say. Unfortunately neither science nor the virus particularly care about your opinions on what you feel you should be allowed to do. Playing the victim whilst wanting the to infect people with a virus would be funny if it wasn't so vile. Where on earth do you get WANTING to infect people with a virus with a wanting to get back to normal in 7 weeks time? You're trying your very best to paint me out as infectious, vile, a killer. I've had covid, have antibodies, and test myself 3 times a week. I will get the vaccine as soon as it is offered My own GP has told me NOT to wear a mask in enclosed spaces due to two panic attacks I had towards the end of last year. I just about cope with them in other circumstances. I've bought visors to wear now when I go out and about and it's been a revelation and I'll continue to wear them until 21st June. If it's safe to go to nightclubs maskless by that point why should theatregoers have to continue to wear them also when they are having tests before entry too?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 14:22:08 GMT
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Post by distantcousin on May 5, 2021 14:25:31 GMT
I will not set foot in any theatre until there are no compulsory masks or social distancing measures in place, Forget it.
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Post by distantcousin on May 5, 2021 14:26:17 GMT
Mentally I am nowhere near ready for things to get back to normal and, given that as a 26 year old I might not be vaccinated until July, June 21st seems like a ludicrous estimate but I appreciate that many people are ready to go back to normal. I have been inside my house only leaving for food for over a year, a year and a half by the time June comes around. It will take a certain amount of indoctrination into social situations. As for theatres, I cannot imagine being squeezed into the middle of a packed auditorium. Given the usual complaints on here, can you imagine how tense it will be when somebody coughs or sneezes? Are you clinically vulnerable?
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Post by distantcousin on May 5, 2021 14:28:11 GMT
I suppose antivaxxers could in theory test in, but frankly as they're not willing to get vaccinated to help us get out of this, I don't give a damn if they're left out in the cold. What a disgusting thing to say.
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Post by distantcousin on May 5, 2021 14:30:57 GMT
Wow, The fascistic comments on this thread are quite something...
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Post by distantcousin on May 5, 2021 14:34:08 GMT
Unfortunately this is only half the story. The government have chosen not to back COVID cancellation insurance policies (like other countries) have so we are going to see a raft of live events get cancelled. The first happened today with Brighton Pride. The government aren't putting their money where their mouth is.
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Post by christya on May 5, 2021 14:34:57 GMT
I suppose antivaxxers could in theory test in, but frankly as they're not willing to get vaccinated to help us get out of this, I don't give a damn if they're left out in the cold. What a disgusting thing to say. Tough. I'll say it again for those not paying attention. If someone is stupid, selfish, and ignorant enough to refuse to get vaccinated against the virus which has basically ruined all of our lives for more than a year, they can stand outside with their noses pressed against the glass watching the rest of us get back to normal for all I care. I don't care if they never fly again, never visit a restaurant, never go to a football match or sit in a theatre. Providing that there is a provision in place for those who, through no fault of their own, cannot be vaccinated so that those people don't miss out, the antivaxxers can proceed directly to hell. I couldn't give less of a damn whether you or anyone else think that opinion is 'disgusting'.
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Post by distantcousin on May 5, 2021 14:38:20 GMT
I remember it wasn't that long ago that face masks weren't even mandatory at the heights of the pandemic and the government were pretty reluctant to bring them in and only really did so when there was big demand from the public and yet we are going to still be told to wear them now even when a vast majority of the adult and willing population have been vaccinated, cases are low and we need negative tests to even get into anywhere anyway? Sorry I still find it unnecessary. There's nothing wrong with them saying after 21st that mask wearing is still recommended but I'm sorry I really don't think we should be required to wear them to get into places at that point. I will of course comply though. They were only brought in as mandatory to encourage shoppers to get back to shops. The science didn't change at all.
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Post by distantcousin on May 5, 2021 14:38:52 GMT
What a disgusting thing to say. Tough. I'll say it again for those not paying attention. If someone is stupid, selfish, and ignorant enough to refuse to get vaccinated against the virus which has basically ruined all of our lives for more than a year, they can stand outside with their noses pressed against the glass watching the rest of us get back to normal for all I care. I don't care if they never fly again, never visit a restaurant, never go to a football match or sit in a theatre. Providing that there is a provision in place for those who, through no fault of their own, cannot be vaccinated so that those people don't miss out, the antivaxxers can proceed directly to hell. I couldn't give less of a damn whether you or anyone else think that opinion is 'disgusting'. Wow, Just, wow.
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Post by talkingheads on May 5, 2021 15:07:11 GMT
Mentally I am nowhere near ready for things to get back to normal and, given that as a 26 year old I might not be vaccinated until July, June 21st seems like a ludicrous estimate but I appreciate that many people are ready to go back to normal. I have been inside my house only leaving for food for over a year, a year and a half by the time June comes around. It will take a certain amount of indoctrination into social situations. As for theatres, I cannot imagine being squeezed into the middle of a packed auditorium. Given the usual complaints on here, can you imagine how tense it will be when somebody coughs or sneezes? Are you clinically vulnerable? I don't want to get Covid. It's as simple as that. I also don't want to pass it on to my family.
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Post by distantcousin on May 5, 2021 15:12:17 GMT
Are you clinically vulnerable? I don't want to get Covid. It's as simple as that. I also don't want to pass it on to my family. Gosh. Life is for living. You're 26.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 15:19:48 GMT
I will not set foot in any theatre until there are no compulsory masks or social distancing measures in place, Forget it. That's your prerogative. More seats for the rest of us who are willing to make a miniscule sacrifice for the sake of others to be able to support theatres.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 15:22:47 GMT
I don't want to get Covid. It's as simple as that. I also don't want to pass it on to my family. Gosh. Life is for living. You're 26. It's only for living if you aren't dead. Young people can die of Covid too, and none of us know what underlying health conditions we may have undiagnosed! Or how we might react in terms of long Covid, which could very much restrict living. Or that people we love may have/how they might react - this is as much about not giving it to other people as it is about not getting it ourselves. Having the vaccine doesn't mean you don't spread it either, or that you can't still get it. But if you want to put your family and friends at risk and live with that on your conscience because you can't be bothered with a couple of safety measures that are nothing more than a minor inconvenience for a couple more months until everyone has been offered a vaccine then that is of course your prerogative. No-one is advocating masks and social distancing forever, just asking for people to have a tiny bit more patience until the vaccine rollout is done. It's not difficult.
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Post by talkingheads on May 5, 2021 15:24:50 GMT
I don't want to get Covid. It's as simple as that. I also don't want to pass it on to my family. Gosh. Life is for living. You're 26. Life is indeed for living, just not in the middle of a global pandemic where the effects of Long Covid are still being investigated. Better safe than sorry, even if that means staying inside for a few more months.
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Post by steve10086 on May 5, 2021 15:25:25 GMT
What a disgusting thing to say. Tough. I'll say it again for those not paying attention. If someone is stupid, selfish, and ignorant enough to refuse to get vaccinated against the virus which has basically ruined all of our lives for more than a year, they can stand outside with their noses pressed against the glass watching the rest of us get back to normal for all I care. I don't care if they never fly again, never visit a restaurant, never go to a football match or sit in a theatre. Providing that there is a provision in place for those who, through no fault of their own, cannot be vaccinated so that those people don't miss out, the antivaxxers can proceed directly to hell. I couldn't give less of a damn whether you or anyone else think that opinion is 'disgusting'. Totally agree.
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Post by distantcousin on May 5, 2021 15:40:10 GMT
Tough. I'll say it again for those not paying attention. If someone is stupid, selfish, and ignorant enough to refuse to get vaccinated against the virus which has basically ruined all of our lives for more than a year, they can stand outside with their noses pressed against the glass watching the rest of us get back to normal for all I care. I don't care if they never fly again, never visit a restaurant, never go to a football match or sit in a theatre. Providing that there is a provision in place for those who, through no fault of their own, cannot be vaccinated so that those people don't miss out, the antivaxxers can proceed directly to hell. I couldn't give less of a damn whether you or anyone else think that opinion is 'disgusting'. Totally agree. Wow. Another one for my sh*t list.
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Post by steve10086 on May 5, 2021 15:46:16 GMT
Wow. Another one for my sh*t list. Feel free to add me. Am I supposed to care?
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