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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 2, 2020 20:18:02 GMT
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 2, 2020 21:13:41 GMT
I appreciate that he is vey young and whilst I imagine that he must feel pretty pleased with his performance (I know I would be if I were him) but in his little green suit and hair combed over, with that smile, HVY looked like the oldest Von Trapp boy.
Either that or Rolf, Liesel's boyfriend.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 2, 2020 22:12:00 GMT
If she had shown any promise, they would have not been so keen to get shot of her. You also have to factor in that the producers want Anton to retire so engineering an early exit helps that plan. But at the end of the day she couldn't dance. And she does not have a warm personality. She was never going to succeed. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 2, 2020 22:13:49 GMT
If she had shown any promise, they would have not been so keen to get shot of her. You also have to factor in that the producers want Anton to retire so engineering an early exit helps that plan. But at the end of the day she couldn't dance. And she does not have a warm personality. She was never going to succeed. Why do they keep picking him if they want him to retire? (Sorry, never watched it) |
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Post by karloscar on Nov 2, 2020 22:20:21 GMT
We're getting Caroline Quentin's Mama Rose this weekend as their couples choice it seems. Whether Johannes will be Gypsy, Baby June, Herbie or Tessie Tura remains unclear. Should be fun anyway.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 2, 2020 22:35:16 GMT
If she had shown any promise, they would have not been so keen to get shot of her. You also have to factor in that the producers want Anton to retire so engineering an early exit helps that plan. But at the end of the day she couldn't dance. And she does not have a warm personality. She was never going to succeed. Why do they keep picking him if they want him to retire? (Sorry, never watched it) Far better to get him to quit than to sack him. He is the only dancer from the start and sacking him would be difficult |
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 2, 2020 23:23:14 GMT
Also factor in that this is a family friendly show designed to a very broad demographic.
There's (usually) a singer or actor of some description. Some sort of TV presenter, a TV celebrity, a comedian, a sporting personality- wherever possible- a politician and Anton always get the more 'mature' female to dance with.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 3, 2020 0:02:51 GMT
Anton got to the final last year with thingy from Eastenders who was not an older contestant. He does tend to get people like Ann Widdecombe and Judy Murray and gets low marks but stays around for a number of weeks.
Nothing like that was going to be possible with JS who has zero rhythm and less coordination
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Post by FairyGodmother on Nov 3, 2020 2:00:59 GMT
We're getting Caroline Quentin's Mama Rose this weekend as their couples choice it seems. Whether Johannes will be Gypsy, Baby June, Herbie or Tessie Tura remains unclear. Should be fun anyway. I can only imagine how "eyes, teeth and tits" (am I allowed to say that? I'll edit if not!) that's going to be.  It isn't the worst series for Anton to go out early in — another lockdown, and his wife at home alone with toddler twins. I presume he can be off until Christmas now. |
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Post by theatreian on Nov 3, 2020 17:17:32 GMT
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Post by lynette on Nov 3, 2020 21:49:18 GMT
And it is so blatant now, it is almost boring. Give the young sexy girl a Latin in a bright red dress, give the older non dancer something like a paso so she/he can really look ridiculous .... so great when they go against the set type. Will we see Nicola do a waltz this week? This people’s choice should be much later on when we have seen the measure of the person, seen what they are good at. And why give anyone a paso so early on? Also we never get the Argentine tango til the very end. Moan, moan, moan, sorry. I’ll try to be positive from now on. |
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Post by digipal on Nov 5, 2020 19:59:17 GMT
I'm guessing that this weeks show won't have any audience, just judges and contestants? Wonder if they'll use canned audience noise?
That said, so far, they're making the best of a difficult situation so well done production!
One wee thing, IMHO, don't have the carousel of contestants in the Clauditorium, much better for Claudia to go downstairs and interview them from a distance at their tables. Just a thought, as I said, well done production
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 5, 2020 21:42:10 GMT
With no audience, there won't be the usual spoilers on a Saturday night....
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Post by FairyGodmother on Nov 6, 2020 2:13:16 GMT
One wee thing, IMHO, don't have the carousel of contestants in the Clauditorium, much better for Claudia to go downstairs and interview them from a distance at their tables. Just a thought, as I said, well done production We wondered about that, and thought it might be tricky to light it, depending on who was back in their seats it could look a bit empty. That or the tables are placed 2m apart and having Claudia walk between then isn't ideal. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 7, 2020 21:14:46 GMT
Ridiculous set of scores tonight.
Can we stop the judges being nice and ho back to being honest?
27?? Not even worth 27 when there were 4 judges
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Post by FairyGodmother on Nov 7, 2020 21:59:05 GMT
Whoever thought that the Simpsons was a good theme should not be working on the show.
To a lesser extent, Clara was dancing a tango to what it obviously a cha cha song.
And PUT PEOPLE IN THE CORRECT SHOES FOR THE DANCES (specifically Nicola and HRVY, but there are others).
(I did enjoy some of it though, I promise!)
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Post by robertb213 on Nov 7, 2020 22:24:02 GMT
The scoring is now ridiculous and has lost all meaning. Most of tonight was not worth 8s and 9s.
The Simpsons idea was dreadful, not Max's fault but it was just 2 minutes of messing about.
And for once and for all, can someone please tell the judges that they should not be criticising the choreography when giving the celeb their feedback. That's the pro's fault. It drives me mad every year and it still happens (HRVY got two doses of it tonight from Craig and Shirley). They shouldn't be mentioning it. They should be critiquing the performance, not the content.
However everything was put right by seeing Aljaz in a James Bond suit and Gorka emerging from the sea in his trunks 😀😂😍
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 7, 2020 23:19:35 GMT
Looking at the individual dances...
Ranvir did not dance for large parts of that routine. Giovanni did a marvellous job of making her look better than she is.
Bill continues to improve. But the guitar section was clunky
Caroline was hampered by pedestrian choreo that had no oomph. Johannes looked good in his trousers...
Max was just mad. The routine was bonkers but not very dancey.
Harvey danced far better than a 21. He is the best male dancer in the group. But they were determined to knock him back.
Maisie was ok. Choreo didn't tell a consistent story. But she still annoys. Gorka is delicious
Nicola was all over the place. It was not well danced and the exaggerated masculinity is dull.
Jamie was all over the place and overmarked but he was entertaining
JJ was elegant and moving. Given his limitations he is impressing.
Clara had a strange look on her face throughout and it wasn't a tango for too much of the time.
Jason was awful. Not a hint of dance quality. He is clear favourite to leave, surely
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 0:59:56 GMT
And for once and for all, can someone please tell the judges that they should not be criticising the choreography when giving the celeb their feedback. That's the pro's fault. No. The judges should be mentioning the choreography more often, not less. I know whether it is good or not because I know what the dances are supposed to be like, but most of the public don't. It is important that they know when a celeb is not actually doing hard choreography or even doing the basics of a dance, because the whole point of the show is that they are supposed to be learning ballroom and Latin. If that is lacking, then the pro dancer at fault should absolutely be called out for that, as there is no excuse. They shouldn't get away with making the celeb look flashy and impressive if they aren't actually doing the right dance. It might not be the celeb's fault but that doesn't matter, it's about the partnership. And it is only fair that celebs are made aware when the pro dancer is failing at their job. And equally to know when the routine was really tricky and they managed well! |
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Post by robertb213 on Nov 8, 2020 11:52:38 GMT
And for once and for all, can someone please tell the judges that they should not be criticising the choreography when giving the celeb their feedback. That's the pro's fault. No. The judges should be mentioning the choreography more often, not less. I know whether it is good or not because I know what the dances are supposed to be like, but most of the public don't. It is important that they know when a celeb is not actually doing hard choreography or even doing the basics of a dance, because the whole point of the show is that they are supposed to be learning ballroom and Latin. If that is lacking, then the pro dancer at fault should absolutely be called out for that, as there is no excuse. They shouldn't get away with making the celeb look flashy and impressive if they aren't actually doing the right dance. It might not be the celeb's fault but that doesn't matter, it's about the partnership. And it is only fair that celebs are made aware when the pro dancer is failing at their job. And equally to know when the routine was really tricky and they managed well! True, but the feedback is generally worded and given to the celeb. 'What did you think of HRVY's performance?' 'There wasn't enough basic cha-cha'. That isn't fair. If they said 'what did you think of this team's performance?' 'HRVY your technique is improving but you need to work on timing. Janette, there wasn't enough cha-cha content in that routine'. That would be fairer. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 8, 2020 14:19:41 GMT
Perhaps another way of approaching this would be to have a technical score for each dance and an artistic impression score (like they used to do with Ice Dance)
That way the pros would be encouraged to stick more closely to the approved steps and we might avoid the ludicrous situation of last night where are bad dancer (Jamie) got a higher score than a good dancer (Harvey)
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 8, 2020 20:23:20 GMT
Well that was the right result.
Weakest dancer went
Next week should be Jamie v Nicola but I suspect Nicola will be given the showier dance to give her a boost.
The BBC will not want her to go out for another couple of weeks
Which means Clara is in danger.
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 8, 2020 21:30:03 GMT
I don't necessarily disagree with you- unless someone has disasterous week where 'it just wasn't their dance'
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Post by theatreian on Nov 8, 2020 22:38:10 GMT
Yes it is unusual that the bottom scored couple in the first 2 weeks has been the ones to go. It is usually someone mid table. Maybe this year the viewing public are taking more notice of the scores! I agree with both couples so far to have left, although not for any technical dance reason or knowledge. They just seemed to me to be the worst that night. I know this is sometimes the dance they are given and I agree that sometimes the choreography has a lot to do with it which is out of the celebrities control.
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Post by danb on Nov 9, 2020 5:50:38 GMT
Well that was the right result. Weakest dancer went Next week should be Jamie v Nicola but I suspect Nicola will be given the showier dance to give her a boost. The BBC will not want her to go out for another couple of weeks Which means Clara is in danger. Hopefully Clara (& more importantly her professional) will up their game so the final weeks aren’t totally white and off of the telly. |
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