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Post by vickyg on Mar 1, 2021 10:54:48 GMT
I wonder whether any theatres will take the decision to remain socially distanced based on public feedback and resulting ticket sales and I wonder what the public appetite is to go back to a non socially distanced venue.
I went to as much socially distanced stuff as I could over the summer and would again as soon as possible, but I'm not sure how I feel about jumping back into non distanced venues as soon as the rules allow without having seen the impact.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Mar 2, 2021 7:56:56 GMT
By the end of June, when the theatres re-open and social distancing ceases, it's said that everyone will have been vaccinated and all the high risk groups 1- 6 would have had their second jab and we'll be well on our way with the rest too. The current target timeframe for everyone to be vaccinated is way out just to be safe, it will all be done by the start of June if everything carries on going smoothly according to analysis.(so a big if to be fair). If you think about it that's why the opening up date is set when it is.
So really if everyone has high protection I honestly don't see the issue with full venues and returning to life as normal, though I'm sure that there will still be things in place to keep everyone as safe as possible and of course there is still a question mark over masks, which Id be fine with.
As for the non vaccinated people, well that's up to them if they want to put themselves at risk. They only have themselves to blame.
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 2, 2021 11:07:51 GMT
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 2, 2021 11:16:09 GMT
Taxi drivers will be less than impressed as well. It will also make it harder for those with mobility issues to reach a large number of venues. Closing 60 roads is made to sound idyllic. But for many with a wide range of disabilities, it can make things much more restricted. Councils are not doing adequate Impact Assessments under the Equality Act for many of these schemes round the country. They are not doing full consultations with all affected groups. Most are driven by a rush for cheap headlines and anti-car dogma.
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Post by Mark on Mar 2, 2021 14:28:29 GMT
Nica Burns planning to open Jamie and Six on 17th May.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 17:08:08 GMT
Sunday performances have been discussed previously somewhere on the board, but it sounds like the industry is taking the pause as an opportunity to really revise performance schedules and embrace Sunday shows. Some big West End shows looking at it already and ATG have mailed out a survey discussing this.
It's a long standing over approach in the US on Broadway. I'm 100% in favour of a Sunday afternoon show rather than a Monday evening.
I think this has the potential to affect touring shows for the better too. Currently shows on the touring circuit run their final performance on a Saturday night, then overnight productions de-rig and move overnight, this often leaves production staff working overnight Saturday then driving 100-300 miles without sleep to get to the next venue, sleep and then start the fitup the next day. Exhausting! If UK receiving houses in unison accept Sunday performances, this could shift to a final performance Sunday afternoon and a much easier schedule for production movement. Completely in favour of this.
Edit: overzealous use of the word 'overnight' apologies!
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Post by talkingheads on Mar 3, 2021 17:26:17 GMT
Sunday performances have been discussed previously somewhere on the board, but it sounds like the industry is taking the pause as an opportunity to really revise performance schedules and embrace Sunday shows. Some big West End shows looking at it already and ATG have mailed out a survey discussing this. It's a long standing over approach in the US on Broadway. I'm 100% in favour of a Sunday afternoon show rather than a Monday evening. I think this has the potential to affect touring shows for the better too. Currently shows on the touring circuit run their final performance on a Saturday night, then overnight productions de-rig and move overnight, this often leaves production staff working overnight Saturday then driving 100-300 miles without sleep to get to the next venue, sleep and then start the fitup the next day. Exhausting! If UK receiving houses in unison accept Sunday performances, this could shift to a final performance Sunday afternoon and a much easier schedule for production movement. Completely in favour of this. The highlight of my week used to be seeing The Comedy Store Players on a Sunday night. If theatres put on Sunday matinee's it would mean I could make much better use of the day.
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Post by properjob on Mar 3, 2021 17:55:50 GMT
Sunday performances have been discussed previously somewhere on the board, but it sounds like the industry is taking the pause as an opportunity to really revise performance schedules and embrace Sunday shows. Some big West End shows looking at it already and ATG have mailed out a survey discussing this. It's a long standing over approach in the US on Broadway. I'm 100% in favour of a Sunday afternoon show rather than a Monday evening. I think this has the potential to affect touring shows for the better too. Currently shows on the touring circuit run their final performance on a Saturday night, then overnight productions de-rig and move overnight, this often leaves production staff working overnight Saturday then driving 100-300 miles without sleep to get to the next venue, sleep and then start the fitup the next day. Exhausting! If UK receiving houses in unison accept Sunday performances, this could shift to a final performance Sunday afternoon and a much easier schedule for production movement. Completely in favour of this. Edit: overzealous use of the word 'overnight' apologies! I've liked this post but that isn't enough to say how much I 1000% agree with it. I used to be crew in a receiving house and we were knackered after finishing at 1 or 2 am and then starting again Sunday morning for another 11-12 hours for the next show and that was being able to go home in between. The touring staff had to do that but be in a different city. It isn't a method of working that should be acceptable in this day and age. Especially given the hazards encounted doing a get-in and get-out. Now I'm just a punter that lives further from London than I'd like Sunday shows would get money from me as I'd travel down on a Saturday do a matinee and evening and stay overnight and see another show on Sunday. It would also mean I didn't have to worry about the early finish of trains on a Saturday night.
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Post by david on Mar 3, 2021 18:06:03 GMT
I'd love to see more Sunday shows being scheduled. Having been to a few over the years both in Manchester (Hope Mill and the Lowry) and in the WE, they have been a great way to spend a Sunday afternoon. Certainly, on my London trips, I try to look out for any Sunday matinees to get to before heading back to Euston to travel back home. Also, I'm sure they would get a few more coach trips being organised by travel companies to boost business for them as well.
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Post by Mark on Mar 3, 2021 18:18:53 GMT
Along with Sunday performances I love a varied matinee day - always great to be able to do a two show day Tues-Thurs (and very occasionally a Friday).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 18:19:57 GMT
I'd love to see more Sunday shows being scheduled. Having been to a few over the years both in Manchester (Hope Mill and the Lowry) and in the WE, they have been a great way to spend a Sunday afternoon. Certainly, on my London trips, I try to look out for any Sunday matinees to get to before heading back to Euston to travel back home. Also, I'm sure they would get a few more coach trips being organised by travel companies to boost business for them as well. Well currently you can book Phantom, Les Mis, Cinderella, Back To The Future, Everybody’s Talking About Jamie, Hamilton and Mary Poppins on a Sunday! If this goes regional, I think this has the potential to turn theatre back into a bit more of an event again for people. It's not just something to cram in after a long day of work, but go into the city, get some lunch, go see a show, couple of drinks in a bar, early evening train home.
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Post by longinthetooth on Mar 3, 2021 21:58:50 GMT
I'm at odds with the general consensus here. On the rare occasions I have been to a Sunday matinee I haven't enjoyed it at all, London feels all wrong, without its usual buzz (I'm talking pre-Covid, of course). I'm a midweek matinee gal through and through (OK, I'm retired, so that helps). On Sundays, though, I have travel issues, usually rail replacements and then the buses have stopped running when I finally reach my home station. Saturdays are better, apart from having to contend with football fans on my way home. I'm usually a lone theatregoer, so don't stay on for an evening show.
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Post by poster J on Mar 3, 2021 22:04:41 GMT
I'm at odds with the general consensus here. On the rare occasions I have been to a Sunday matinee I haven't enjoyed it at all, London feels all wrong, without its usual buzz (I'm talking pre-Covid, of course). I'm a midweek matinee gal through and through (OK, I'm retired, so that helps). On Sundays, though, I have travel issues, usually rail replacements and then the buses have stopped running when I finally reach my home station. Saturdays are better, apart from having to contend with football fans on my way home. I'm usually a lone theatregoer, so don't stay on for an evening show. Is there really any more buzz in London on a weekday matinee than a Sunday one? London is usually bustling on a Sunday! As someone who works (more than) 9 to 5, regular Sunday matinees would be a godsend.
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Post by Mark on Mar 3, 2021 22:20:19 GMT
I'm at odds with the general consensus here. On the rare occasions I have been to a Sunday matinee I haven't enjoyed it at all, London feels all wrong, without its usual buzz (I'm talking pre-Covid, of course). I'm a midweek matinee gal through and through (OK, I'm retired, so that helps). On Sundays, though, I have travel issues, usually rail replacements and then the buses have stopped running when I finally reach my home station. Saturdays are better, apart from having to contend with football fans on my way home. I'm usually a lone theatregoer, so don't stay on for an evening show. Is there really any more buzz in London on a weekday matinee than a Sunday one? London is usually bustling on a Sunday! As someone who works (more than) 9 to 5, regular Sunday matinees would be a godsend. London is full of tourists/shoppers on a weekend, I’ll agree that I much prefer a midweek matinee for that reason (fortunate not to work a fixed pattern and often have days off midweek). Saturdays of course tend to be more expensive too.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 3, 2021 22:42:19 GMT
They’re doing Sunday performances to align when people are at home and have their leisure time, so given an extra opportunity to go to the theatre. So this suggest that theatre doesn’t seem to envisage tourists going in, for the short term anyway, hence trying to capture times best suited for the indigenous population and here lies the problem for me, as the people work in theatre are human too and have rights to a little bit of family life, we already ask a lot of them by working every evening and all day Saturday, so if you have a young family this is very harsh. Also take with a pinch of salt if you will the big names that support working on a Sunday, as they have the luxury of sending on a alternate when they feel they need their family life.
I have no such issue scrapping the Sunday trading laws for shops.
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Post by Dawnstar on Mar 3, 2021 23:07:39 GMT
I'm at odds with the general consensus here. On the rare occasions I have been to a Sunday matinee I haven't enjoyed it at all, London feels all wrong, without its usual buzz (I'm talking pre-Covid, of course). I'm a midweek matinee gal through and through (OK, I'm retired, so that helps). On Sundays, though, I have travel issues, usually rail replacements and then the buses have stopped running when I finally reach my home station. Saturdays are better, apart from having to contend with football fans on my way home. I'm usually a lone theatregoer, so don't stay on for an evening show. Is there really any more buzz in London on a weekday matinee than a Sunday one? London is usually bustling on a Sunday! As someone who works (more than) 9 to 5, regular Sunday matinees would be a godsend. I've been to quite a few Sunday matinees over the last few years, because Mischief have been doing them since 2014. I also sometimes attend mid-week matinees when I'm between temp jobs. My overall impression is that in the West End there's not much difference in atmosphere between weekday & Sunday matinees. The most "dead" performances I've been to have been weekday matinees at my local theatre for less popular shows, where the auditorium has been about a quarter full & I've been one of the very few audience members under pensionable age!
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Post by poster J on Mar 4, 2021 0:08:49 GMT
They’re doing Sunday performances to align when people are at home and have their leisure time, so given an extra opportunity to go to the theatre. So this suggest that theatre doesn’t seem to envisage tourists going in, for the short term anyway, hence trying to capture times best suited for the indigenous population and here lies the problem for me, as the people work in theatre are human too and have rights to a little bit of family life, we already ask a lot of them by working every evening and all day Saturday, so if you have a young family this is very harsh. Also take with a pinch of salt if you will the big names that support working on a Sunday, as they have the luxury of sending on a alternate when they feel they need their family life. I have no such issue scrapping the Sunday trading laws for shops. Sorry, but no. Working evenings and weekends in the theatre is no different to people who work 9 to 5 or longer in other jobs. I regularly work 12 hour days. People who work in theatre go into that career knowing it won't be regular hours, that is their choice. They get their downtime when many others are at work, that is just how it goes. Everyone has difficulties juggling work and family life, that's just called living.
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Post by talkingheads on Mar 4, 2021 0:18:09 GMT
They’re doing Sunday performances to align when people are at home and have their leisure time, so given an extra opportunity to go to the theatre. So this suggest that theatre doesn’t seem to envisage tourists going in, for the short term anyway, hence trying to capture times best suited for the indigenous population and here lies the problem for me, as the people work in theatre are human too and have rights to a little bit of family life, we already ask a lot of them by working every evening and all day Saturday, so if you have a young family this is very harsh. Also take with a pinch of salt if you will the big names that support working on a Sunday, as they have the luxury of sending on a alternate when they feel they need their family life. I have no such issue scrapping the Sunday trading laws for shops. Surely working Sundays would mean they scrap one of the weekday performances in lieu. I'd vote Monday evening, especially if people now have four opportunities to see a show over the weekend.
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Post by londonpostie on Mar 4, 2021 3:24:34 GMT
Booked my two doses. The second is 5 hours before we're due at the Victoria Palace for Hamilton. I don't suppose it will be a factor but ...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 9:50:41 GMT
I'm at odds with the general consensus here. On the rare occasions I have been to a Sunday matinee I haven't enjoyed it at all, London feels all wrong, without its usual buzz (I'm talking pre-Covid, of course). I'm a midweek matinee gal through and through (OK, I'm retired, so that helps). On Sundays, though, I have travel issues, usually rail replacements and then the buses have stopped running when I finally reach my home station. Saturdays are better, apart from having to contend with football fans on my way home. I'm usually a lone theatregoer, so don't stay on for an evening show. Don't worry, the midweek matinee isn't going anywhere, nor Saturday performances. Monday/Tuesday evenings are being swapped out for Sunday afternoons currently, so by the sounds of your preferences you wouldn't be affected in any way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 9:51:47 GMT
They’re doing Sunday performances to align when people are at home and have their leisure time, so given an extra opportunity to go to the theatre. So this suggest that theatre doesn’t seem to envisage tourists going in, for the short term anyway, hence trying to capture times best suited for the indigenous population and here lies the problem for me, as the people work in theatre are human too and have rights to a little bit of family life, we already ask a lot of them by working every evening and all day Saturday, so if you have a young family this is very harsh. Also take with a pinch of salt if you will the big names that support working on a Sunday, as they have the luxury of sending on a alternate when they feel they need their family life. I have no such issue scrapping the Sunday trading laws for shops. Surely working Sundays would mean they scrap one of the weekday performances in lieu. I'd vote Monday evening, especially if people now have four opportunities to see a show over the weekend. It looks like it's a fairly even divide between shows taking Monday/Tuesday off, so there's not a dark evening in town.
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Post by southstreet on Mar 4, 2021 10:54:08 GMT
It was supposed to be happening from Jan, I had booked for one based on the cast. But as it got moved and no confirmation on cast I asked for a refund. If the cast for the first one stays as it was (it's still on the website), I will definitely rebook. :-)
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 14, 2021 13:34:26 GMT
It's quite long, but this is an interesting read about the pilots to get live events up and running again. A knowledge of snooker is not essential, so please don't let that put you off! wst.tv/crucible-to-welcome-fans/
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Post by talkingheads on Mar 17, 2021 12:10:48 GMT
Really happy to see Bath Theatre Royal and Hampstead Theatre announcing new seasons. Safety precautions look good, even though I still find the thought of sitting for two hours in a mask an unappealing prospect. But if it means I get to sit inside a theatre this year then I'm all for it.
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Post by Mark on Mar 22, 2021 10:30:09 GMT
Lion King reopening July 29th!
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Post by talkingheads on Mar 23, 2021 10:49:41 GMT
Cineworld is to reopen in May. I'm remaining cautious but that will be one of the first places I venture to. I won't renew my Unlimited card just yet though, quite happy to spend seven pounds on a ticket, still much cheaper than the current Video on Demand prices:
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 23, 2021 11:21:01 GMT
I do hope so. I really miss going to the cinema.
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