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Post by Dawnstar on Oct 1, 2020 16:43:57 GMT
Awesome. So we’re not finding that streaming theatre is struggling to find the same audience as cinema screenings and live performance pre-lockdown, then. Great, no worries for anyone in the theatre industry - everything can just move to streaming to get the money in and keep people employed. No? (Yes, I’m feeling sarcastic today.) If this is directed at me then I didn't say anything whatsoever about general audiences. All I said was that I prefer to watch something streamed at home rather than at the cinema. |
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Post by talkingheads on Oct 1, 2020 20:10:40 GMT
Awesome. So we’re not finding that streaming theatre is struggling to find the same audience as cinema screenings and live performance pre-lockdown, then. Great, no worries for anyone in the theatre industry - everything can just move to streaming to get the money in and keep people employed. No? (Yes, I’m feeling sarcastic today.) Why the hostility? Streaming has been the only way we can experience theatre during an awful year and even as places open up I am glad some are keeping streaming as an option. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 16:48:42 GMT
Awesome. So we’re not finding that streaming theatre is struggling to find the same audience as cinema screenings and live performance pre-lockdown, then. Great, no worries for anyone in the theatre industry - everything can just move to streaming to get the money in and keep people employed. No? (Yes, I’m feeling sarcastic today.) You do know many artists are producing new productions for streaming, right? In other words, streaming is allowing them to work and get some income in these terrible times for the arts. Unless you have a genius idea for reopening all theatres at profitable capacity immediately that no-one else in the world has come up with yet, it is the most we are currently going to get save for shows willing and able to run at a socially-distanced loss. Your sarcasm appears to misplaced. |
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Post by talkingheads on Oct 2, 2020 22:48:53 GMT
Pretty much inevitable that the new Bond film has been delayed again to April 2021. This means that cinemas now don't have anything new to show for seven months.
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Post by lynette on Oct 3, 2020 17:10:07 GMT
Isn’t there a new film about the Chicago 7 going into cinemas briefly before going on Netflix?
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Post by londonpostie on Oct 3, 2020 18:14:12 GMT
I believe they had to quickly edit it as the Chicago 6 to be bubble compliant.
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Post by talkingheads on Oct 3, 2020 22:24:16 GMT
Huge news. Cineworld are set to close until next year, with over 5000 staff members being made redundant:
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Post by bengal73 on Oct 3, 2020 23:45:10 GMT
A circus. All covid secure etc was due to open in Brighton this Wednesday. Employed 70. Had all the approvals in an area with relatively low prevalence. They've just been told they can't go ahead. Disgusted that this can happen so late in the day
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Post by olliebean on Oct 4, 2020 7:33:21 GMT
Cineworld's use of the word "unviable" is surely no accident, but a reference to Rishi Sunak's refusal to continue supporting (temporarily) "unviable" businesses.
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Post by talkingheads on Oct 4, 2020 7:40:13 GMT
Cineworld's use of the word "unviable" is surely no accident, but a reference to Rishi Sunak's refusal to continue supporting (temporarily) "unviable" businesses. Indeed. And the knock on effect will impact surrounding restaurants hugely. |
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Post by kathryn on Oct 4, 2020 10:22:32 GMT
Awesome. So we’re not finding that streaming theatre is struggling to find the same audience as cinema screenings and live performance pre-lockdown, then. Great, no worries for anyone in the theatre industry - everything can just move to streaming to get the money in and keep people employed. No? (Yes, I’m feeling sarcastic today.) You do know many artists are producing new productions for streaming, right? In other words, streaming is allowing them to work and get some income in these terrible times for the arts. Unless you have a genius idea for reopening all theatres at profitable capacity immediately that no-one else in the world has come up with yet, it is the most we are currently going to get save for shows willing and able to run at a socially-distanced loss.
Your sarcasm appears to misplaced. The conversation we were having was: why isn’t the new work being made for streaming picking up much of an audience? My response was: streaming is better than nothing, but not as effective as NT Live, which in itself was not as good as actually being there. It just doesn’t compare to live theatre, and streamed theatre struggles to capture the attention of home audiences. Doing that is a whole other skill set that TV makers have developed. The response to that was ‘but I prefer streamed theatre’. Which is fair enough, but it can’t be the typical response of audiences, can it - or why would we be having the conversation to start with. Self-evidently streaming isn’t as popular or as satisfying an experience as live theatre, or the industry wouldn’t be facing a problem. Streaming is better than nothing - but it’s not going to keep the industry alive on its own. This thread is called ‘getting recreation and leisure up and running again’, and that is what I was talking about. There is a very real existential threat to recreation and leisure industries - as shown by Cineworld’s announcement. There’s no point pretending otherwise. |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Oct 4, 2020 20:10:43 GMT
Unless anything is put on at my local, and I think they will do something, then I think I've pretty much cancelled theatre for myself for the rest of the year. I just don't feel comfortable travelling to London or other large cities for shows, even though theatre is starting up again. My local theatre is my limit and some of that is down to me wanting to support them if they put something on rather than being completely comfortable with it.
I have to say I've enjoyed the amount of money that I'm saving, because it really does run into the several thousands all things considered such as travel and accommodation over a year, which I imagine it will be before I start going properly again.
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Post by fiyero on Oct 4, 2020 21:12:00 GMT
A circus. All covid secure etc was due to open in Brighton this Wednesday. Employed 70. Had all the approvals in an area with relatively low prevalence. They've just been told they can't go ahead. Disgusted that this can happen so late in the day That’s a huge shame. I hate seeing these companies who are trying being knocked back. The same happened with a funfair locally but theme parks can open! |
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Post by bengal73 on Oct 4, 2020 21:34:42 GMT
A circus. All covid secure etc was due to open in Brighton this Wednesday. Employed 70. Had all the approvals in an area with relatively low prevalence. They've just been told they can't go ahead. Disgusted that this can happen so late in the day That’s a huge shame. I hate seeing these companies who are trying being knocked back. The same happened with a funfair locally but theme parks can open! I know. I've voiced my opinion to the council not that I expect much of a response. It's not only left people unemployed but with nowhere to stay. They were due on site today and weren't told it wouldn't be happening until Friday evening. I saw the same circus in Eastbourne and the work they have done to make their performances covid secure, I just don't understand the reasoning behind pulling it |
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Post by talkingheads on Oct 5, 2020 7:29:30 GMT
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Post by talkingheads on Oct 5, 2020 9:09:46 GMT
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Post by theatreian on Oct 5, 2020 9:12:51 GMT
I live near an Empire out of town cinema and the car park has been empty ever since they reopened. It is no surprise really when you see what films they are showing. If there are going to be no releases then how can they expect customers to go. No fault of their own but the Empire is still charging full price to show old films. It's a catch 22 really as without new films they are bound to close and film companies are reluctant to put new films out for far of reduced audiences.
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Post by talkingheads on Oct 5, 2020 10:15:11 GMT
I live near an Empire out of town cinema and the car park has been empty ever since they reopened. It is no surprise really when you see what films they are showing. If there are going to be no releases then how can they expect customers to go. No fault of their own but the Empire is still charging full price to show old films. It's a catch 22 really as without new films they are bound to close and film companies are reluctant to put new films out for far of reduced audiences. Frankly at this rate the studios will be lucky to have any cinemas left to show them in. Quite how they expect them to lay dormant with no income for almost a year and then magically reopen for Bond is mystifying. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 12:41:18 GMT
Thw two things go hand in hand, the economy will suffer unless the virus is under control. Just saying 'go to the cinema' (Johnson's latest layer of confusion upon confusion) is not enough. People realise what is necessary and/or safe and change their behaviour accordingly.
Beat the virus down to near zero and people will start to go out and spend more. It doesn't work the other way around.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Oct 6, 2020 8:03:05 GMT
Just out of interest, has anyone else worked out what they have saved by not having access to theatre and culture over the past 7 months? I mean we would all rather it was there, for many reasons, but I was working it out yesterday and I think that by the time theatre resumes in any way normally, which I imagine will be spring (and I'm not risking it on the whole before then) , I think I will have saved upwards of 4 thousand pounds on tickets, travel, accommodation, food, drinks and merch ect.
It's actually scary to me that's how much I spend. I never even batted an eyelid about the costs of going to the theatre/events until I worked this out.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 6, 2020 8:16:40 GMT
I am amazed at how much I am now able to save each month. It turns out showtunes, holidays, beer and restaurant food adds up.
I'm not spending it on anything else (still shopping in Lidl and getting charity shop clothes) just saving and paying off the mortgage.
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Post by vickyg on Oct 6, 2020 8:20:43 GMT
Just out of interest, has anyone else worked out what they have saved by not having access to theatre and culture over the past 7 months? I mean we would all rather it was there, for many reasons, but I was working it out yesterday and I think that by the time theatre resumes in any way normally, which I imagine will be spring (and I'm not risking it on the whole before then) , I think I will have saved upwards of 4 thousand pounds on tickets, travel, accommodation, food, drinks and merch ect. It's actually scary to me that's how much I spend. I never even batted an eyelid about the costs of going to the theatre/events until I worked this out. I have always roughly thought that I spend about £100 per month. I live in London so don't need travel or accommodation and see something about once a week, sometimes more, sometimes less. I don't usually spend more than £20 - £25 per ticket. But then I've never really thought about the fact that about half the time I go for a restaurant meal beforehand because I'm with someone, half the time I grab a pret or fast food. I also often get a diet coke to take in with me and occasionally sweets. Even though I think for the amount of theatre I see I do it very frugally it definitely adds up over the 7 months we're at now. I've seen a few Old Vic live streams, saw Blindness 3 times and I have songs for a new world, a talking head and the show must go on booked so I am offsetting it a little! I was worried that through all the opportunities I've been lucky enough to have to save money over this period I might have become too cheap to shell out for tickets, but hopefully I will continue to see what I want, just in a frugal way. |
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Post by Figaro on Oct 6, 2020 8:37:36 GMT
Spending more time at home with the kids and spending money keeping them entertained!
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Post by christya on Oct 6, 2020 8:45:21 GMT
I've channelled some of what I'm saving into donations to local theatres and food banks, but what with not having my train/hotel to London to pay for and the other things I'm not spending anymore (due to working from home, not being able to meet friends for dinner or at the pub, and not leisure shopping) I'm still saving at least £500 a month. Which is great, but I'd rather have my life back.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Oct 6, 2020 10:54:59 GMT
I don't think I've saved all that much, since I'm lucky to be able to see a lot of theatre free/cheap and mostly theatre that's local. On the flipside, my takeaway consumption has tripled!
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