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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 10:19:36 GMT
When the pilot resumes tomorrow afternoon at the World Snooker Championship, there will be about 300 in the audience, which even I can work out is 30% of the Crucible's usual capacity. @sharpe12 , I think you must have the ear of someone in authority, as almost all of your suggestions have actually been adopted. 🙂 The main exception being food and drink. If you want either, you have to bring it with you, which is a 180° turn from the policy many theatres have adopted in recent years. With regards to the West End, although obviously not a musical, surely The Woman in Black must be a candidate for early reopening? Haha, I wish I did have the ear of someone in authority ;-)
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Post by NeilVHughes on Aug 14, 2020 10:26:13 GMT
The Mousetrap already have socially distanced tickets for sale for when they re-open in the West End late October.
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Post by vickyg on Aug 14, 2020 10:55:58 GMT
Which West End theatres would be able to open at anything like 50-70% capacity with social distancing measures in place? With 1m social distancing and masks you might get to 50%. That is no different to what is happening on trains and buses anyway, there is no need to leave every other row empty if everyone is wearing masks, just space out the seating so no-one is sat directly in front of or behind someone else But really theatres need to be able to open without social distancing with mask wearing and we don't seem to be there yet. Interesting thinking about what theatres will feel constitutes sufficient distancing. In the Donmar they did feel they had to leave a row empty as in the circle there are only 2 rows and only one was in use. Looks to be the same at The Bridge from the seating plan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 12:51:15 GMT
With 1m social distancing and masks you might get to 50%. That is no different to what is happening on trains and buses anyway, there is no need to leave every other row empty if everyone is wearing masks, just space out the seating so no-one is sat directly in front of or behind someone else But really theatres need to be able to open without social distancing with mask wearing and we don't seem to be there yet. Interesting thinking about what theatres will feel constitutes sufficient distancing. In the Donmar they did feel they had to leave a row empty as in the circle there are only 2 rows and only one was in use. Looks to be the same at The Bridge from the seating plan. I'm just thinking more as someone who has begun using public transport in London again - there is no 2m distancing, or even really 1m distancing, on buses and trains - rows aren't roped off to stop people using them, so you have situations where every row of seats is occupied, but by one person rather than two. Nearly everyone is wearing masks. I don't see why theatres can't do the same, and they have the space to ensure people aren't sitting directly behind each other. That could get you above 30% capacity while still distancing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 17:30:01 GMT
Really important video to be seen here, not sure if theres been much attention thrown over to the #WeMakeEvents campaign here. For the majority of the major theatres, productions and the whole live music industry, there is no sign of shows restarting and as a result the production industry that makes these shows happen is on the brink of collapse. Bluntly put, furlough stops shortly for hundreds of thousands of freelancers, including theatre makers and when that happens chances are, to survive they will have to find work in alternative industries. When they're gone, theres no-one to staff these shows. This applies to actors across the board too. How long can they continue to support themselves on nothing? This video, whilst slightly centric to Liverpool gives a really helpful insight into this. Please spend some time watching this video and think about what you can do to help. This affects theatre profoundly! www.facebook.com/Adlib.co.uk/videos/343853353449236/?refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2Fstory.php
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 7:49:37 GMT
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Post by vickyg on Aug 15, 2020 12:58:56 GMT
Very surprised to see that the audience for the snooker aren’t wearing masks and are not distanced. Under what rules do they not have to do that?!
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Post by Jon on Aug 15, 2020 13:00:44 GMT
Very surprised to see that the audience for the snooker aren’t wearing masks and are not distanced. Under what rules do they not have to do that?! I wonder if this is deliberate in order to test whether a social distanced performances needs audiences to wear masks or not as the Crucible is one of the pilot venues. There is a fair bit of distance but I assume those sitting together are in social bubbles.
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Post by Dr Tom on Aug 15, 2020 13:02:06 GMT
Very surprised to see that the audience for the snooker aren’t wearing masks and are not distanced. Under what rules do they not have to do that?! Maybe they've all been tested? But not a good advertisement to show on TV, as it makes other people think they have the right to do what they want.
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Post by talkingheads on Aug 15, 2020 13:57:56 GMT
Very surprised to see that the audience for the snooker aren’t wearing masks and are not distanced. Under what rules do they not have to do that?! Maybe they've all been tested? But not a good advertisement to show on TV, as it makes other people think they have the right to do what they want. I was under the impression that if distancing was in place then masks weren't needed? Though maybe that's just for outdoor events.
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Post by vickyg on Aug 15, 2020 14:22:43 GMT
Maybe they've all been tested? But not a good advertisement to show on TV, as it makes other people think they have the right to do what they want. I was under the impression that if distancing was in place then masks weren't needed? Though maybe that's just for outdoor events. We’re now required to wear them at a very large number of indoor places irrespective of whether distancing is in place (which having got a better look I can see the audience is actually distanced) including ‘visitor attractions and entertainment venues’ which I would have though that counts as. www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-ownInteresting also to see that even if it’s not required I haven’t seen a single person who has chosen to wear one. ETA I've just looked on the ticket seller's website which says spectators are only required to wear masks when entering and walking around around the venue. When they're in their seat they are welcome to remove their masks. Sounds very unusual and not at all in keeping with the law...
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Post by Dr Tom on Aug 15, 2020 14:44:49 GMT
ETA I've just looked on the ticket seller's website which says spectators are only required to wear masks when entering and walking around around the venue. When they're in their seat they are welcome to remove their masks. Sounds very unusual and not at all in keeping with the law... Best thing to do is to tweet how disgusted you are, then it will end up as a news story for a load of the online versions of the papers where they have to turnaround 10 stories each a day.
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Post by talkingheads on Aug 15, 2020 17:18:55 GMT
I was under the impression that if distancing was in place then masks weren't needed? Though maybe that's just for outdoor events. We’re now required to wear them at a very large number of indoor places irrespective of whether distancing is in place (which having got a better look I can see the audience is actually distanced) including ‘visitor attractions and entertainment venues’ which I would have though that counts as. www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-ownInteresting also to see that even if it’s not required I haven’t seen a single person who has chosen to wear one. ETA I've just looked on the ticket seller's website which says spectators are only required to wear masks when entering and walking around around the venue. When they're in their seat they are welcome to remove their masks. Sounds very unusual and not at all in keeping with the law... Ah right. I only wondered because of the mixed messaging from a few places, especially cinemas where even now when asked can't say if you wear your mask through the film or not.
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Post by zahidf on Aug 15, 2020 18:18:53 GMT
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 15, 2020 19:33:50 GMT
The Government announced yesterday that fines are going to increase for non compliance of mask wearing, which All sounds very good and well, but like everything else with this dreadful Government it isn’t policed, the only time things are policed now, if you commit a crime against the great and good of this country. Speaking to my neighbour who is Moroccan told me if you are caught not wearing a mask in public, in his country, no ifs and buts, it is a 3 months prison sentence and they enforce it.
I still cannot fathom how they allow to reopen theatre, but have no contact tracing in place.
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Post by talkingheads on Aug 17, 2020 9:16:59 GMT
Why is it OK for an audience to watch snooker with no masks or even distancing it seems, but theatres still can't open?
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 17, 2020 10:51:04 GMT
I'm sorry i'm getting aggravated by this snooker thing. Firstly, social media is up in arms and circulating pictures that aren't even from this years event. Secondly, whilst I don't get the who mask thing, that is a strange thing, there WAS social distancing, the capacity was reduced to 300 from 900, anywhere it looks like a lot of people are sitting together then that is a social bubble. Thirdly about the outcry that they have the audacity to put this test event on in a theatre.....The Crucible has housed this championship and others for getting on 50 years and is far more globally famous as a snooker venue than as a playhouse...... Finally, Theatre is literally allowed to do the same thing/ and not just as a test like this was, but as standard (minus the mask wearing for some reason) and is doing so from next week with the Sleepless musical.
I'm all for speaking out about getting theatre back and any injustices that impacts that but can we actually make sure we know the facts before kicking off, or at least not spreading false pictures and information?
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Aug 17, 2020 11:05:17 GMT
Yep glad so many got in to see Ronnie win his sixth world title
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Post by fiyero on Aug 17, 2020 11:24:55 GMT
I want to think positively. If the snooker is a success it will help there be more trials. It is easy to pick photos where everyone looks close together or it looks barren to help your case
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 17, 2020 11:32:03 GMT
Although the final is getting all the attention, for obvious reasons, I think it's important to remember that until the pilot was suddenly paused, the first day of the championship also had an audience of perhaps 800 over the three sessions. If any outbreak had been traced back to the Crucible, it would have come to light by now, surely.
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Post by viserys on Aug 17, 2020 12:45:54 GMT
www.rbb24.de/kultur/thema/2020/coronavirus/beitraege_neu/2020/08/empfehlung-charite-berlin-abstandsregeln-opern-konzerte-publikum.htmlYes, this article is in German but I've checked and Google Translate does a reasonably decent job with English. The gist is that classical concerts and operas should be allowed to happen at full capacity again as long as the audience wears masks and all the other rules (social distancing in the foyer, etc.) are observed. They also say that orchestras can be seated normally again, even wind instruments. It tallies with what I've been saying for weeks - that you can't compare the audience at theatres (or classical concerts) with that at rock/pop venues or sports events, where people will shout, sing along, etc. But who knows if the advice will be heeded...
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Post by Someone in a tree on Aug 17, 2020 14:22:23 GMT
That's great to hear. Although don't certain musicals encourage hollering, Whooping, screaming and dance along finales - if this is banned then all of a sudden I love Covid19
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Post by xanady on Aug 17, 2020 14:31:44 GMT
Friend of mine reckons that the audience were actually paid to be in the audience for the zzzzznooker to create an atmosphere.Surely untrue as it would encourage a profusion of loud snoring and upset the wizards of the green baize 😂
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Post by zahidf on Aug 17, 2020 18:40:54 GMT
Really is an idiot
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Post by jakobo on Aug 17, 2020 20:48:47 GMT
Is he an idiot because he's trying to protect his resources and make sure he can reopen his productions when the situation is more stable and therefore employ all those people again?
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