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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 12:54:56 GMT
Since they're touring the Palladium specifically in order to look at safety measures, it is inexcusable that nobody in any of those pictures is wearing a mask. No, they're not the only thing we can do, but masks ARE one of the major steps we can take to keep each other safe in enclosed public spaces, and the fact that neither Mr. Dowden nor anybody else present could be bothered to wear one speaks volumes.
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Post by sf on Jul 2, 2020 12:56:15 GMT
You are so obsessed with masks it's starting to look a bit kinky... Talk about missing the point. I want theatre back. I want people to be able to do their jobs safely. I want people to be able to go out safely. It is profoundly shocking - and infuriating - to see what an exercise in measuring how theatres can safely reopen in which NONE of the people pictures are bothering to take one of the simplest, cheapest steps towards keeping people safe. No, as I said, it's not the only step that can be taken - but it IS a step towards getting some semblance of normality back, and the more people do it the quicker it'll be safe enough for us to get back some of the things we all love. But of course instead of talking about practical steps we can all take to make a dangerous situation safer, it's far easier just to sneer at people. That's a HUGE part of what is wrong with this country right now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 13:00:24 GMT
sf I got your point. We all get your point. Repeatedly.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 2, 2020 13:11:32 GMT
As our great government recommend wearing a mask on a charabanc but not in a crowded Wethersooons its not surprising folk aren't wearing them
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Post by sf on Jul 2, 2020 13:12:03 GMT
sf I got your point. We all get your point. Repeatedly.
No, clearly you don't.
There are simple steps we can all take - masks are one of them - that will help us bring this situation under control to a point where it's safe enough for us to start getting back the things we all miss.
The fewer people take these steps, the longer it will be before we can all start to get back some semblance of normality.
It's THAT simple. People sneering at these measures are part of the reason it's going to take us so long to get back to normal.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 2, 2020 14:17:34 GMT
I presume then Masks are not part of the safety procedure ALW has developed.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 2, 2020 14:17:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 14:23:15 GMT
sf I got your point. We all get your point. Repeatedly.
No, clearly you don't.
There are simple steps we can all take - masks are one of them - that will help us bring this situation under control to a point where it's safe enough for us to start getting back the things we all miss.
The fewer people take these steps, the longer it will be before we can all start to get back some semblance of normality.
It's THAT simple. People sneering at these measures are part of the reason it's going to take us so long to get back to normal.
Honestly I get it! I wear a mask! Stop shouting at me about masks, it's getting really weird and S&M-ish! |
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Post by sf on Jul 2, 2020 14:25:36 GMT
it's getting really weird and S&M-ish! That, I'm afraid, says far more about you than it does about me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 14:51:54 GMT
it's getting really weird and S&M-ish! That, I'm afraid, says far more about you than it does about me. What can I say, it's been a long lockdown for a single girl... |
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Post by stevej678 on Jul 2, 2020 15:41:47 GMT
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Post by sf on Jul 2, 2020 16:29:56 GMT
Nuffield Southampton Theatres to permamently close as a result of the Covid-19 crisis, with 86 redundancies:
At this point, the government's neglect/foot-dragging/whatever over bailing out the sector is beginning to look very much like a deliberate act of cultural vandalism.
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Post by alece10 on Jul 2, 2020 16:38:59 GMT
I wonder if those very rich people or corporations who own the boxes are able to chip in. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 17:04:32 GMT
Since they're touring the Palladium specifically in order to look at safety measures, it is inexcusable that nobody in any of those pictures is wearing a mask. No, they're not the only thing we can do, but masks ARE one of the major steps we can take to keep each other safe in enclosed public spaces, and the fact that neither Mr. Dowden nor anybody else present could be bothered to wear one speaks volumes.
They are social distancing, so no, it isn't inexcusable. If that theatre had been full, then of course they would have needed to wear masks, but when able to social distance like they were doing then there is no need. And I say that as someone who is supportive of mask wearing. |
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Post by sf on Jul 2, 2020 17:23:38 GMT
hey are social distancing, so no, it isn't inexcusable. If that theatre had been full, then of course they would have needed to wear masks, but when able to social distance like they were doing then there is no need. Not the point. It's about optics and unambiguous messaging. If the government and the theatre management are going to expect members of the public to comply with a particular measure, their representatives need to be seen to be complying with ALL of those measures themselves in pictures of a tour designed to demonstrate those safety measures. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 17:56:15 GMT
hey are social distancing, so no, it isn't inexcusable. If that theatre had been full, then of course they would have needed to wear masks, but when able to social distance like they were doing then there is no need. Not the point. It's about optics and unambiguous messaging. If the government and the theatre management are going to expect members of the public to comply with a particular measure, their representatives need to be seen to be complying with ALL of those measures themselves in pictures of a tour designed to demonstrate those safety measures. It hardly matters for theatres - if you are required to wear one then you aren't going to get through the door without one. Theatres have bigger problems right now than whether or not a politician socially distancing wears a mask on a short visit. It was no different to any other commercial meeting and it won't be headline news. Your mask crusade would be better placed if it were aimed at Boris's visit to Westfield and other such activities, where masks are actually needed. |
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Post by sf on Jul 2, 2020 18:25:27 GMT
It hardly matters for theatres - if you are required to wear one then you aren't going to get through the door without one. Theatres have bigger problems right now than whether or not a politician socially distancing wears a mask on a short visit. It was no different to any other commercial meeting and it won't be headline news. Again, not the point, although the misplaced condescension is entertaining - and again, it's about ensuring the people in charge are themselves complying with the rules the public will be expected to follow whenever they are photographed, whether it's for the front page of the Daily Mail or a tweet. There's a ton of anecdotal evidence that compliance with lockdown/social distancing rules has been an issue, and part of the problem is that we've seen members of the government and their advisers and relatives getting away with things they shouldn't be doing. Yes, sure, you won't get through the door of a theatre without a mask, but it's going to be very difficult for staff (and I say this as a former front-of-house manager) to police whether patrons keep them on through the entire performance, which means the messaging needs to be absolutely watertight. It still won't make 100% of patrons comply, but it can't hurt. Making sure people on a safety tour are following ALL the safety procedures in photographs would have been a very simple thing to do, and it IS, I'm afraid, revealing that Mr. Dowden didn't do it. |
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 2, 2020 20:22:44 GMT
If they aren't stepping in to save the Albert Hall then what chance does any other theatre have?
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jul 2, 2020 21:20:59 GMT
Mousetrap opening date of the 23rd Oct Tweeted by Baz.
To be the first COVID-19 proof show to open in London .
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Post by Jon on Jul 2, 2020 21:27:39 GMT
Mousetrap opening date of the 23rd Oct Tweeted by Baz. To be the first COVID-19 proof show to open in London . Nothing can kill that show! The Woman in Black is another long runner that could feasibly reopen with changes as that's a three hander. |
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Post by basdfg on Jul 2, 2020 21:32:49 GMT
Will the gimmick of being socially distanced on stage sell enough tickets to be viable I wonder.
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Post by stevej678 on Jul 2, 2020 21:38:31 GMT
Will the gimmick of being socially distanced on stage sell enough tickets to be viable I wonder. How is committing to follow the Government's Covid-19 guidance and observe social distancing a gimmick? |
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Post by basdfg on Jul 3, 2020 0:53:50 GMT
Will the gimmick of being socially distanced on stage sell enough tickets to be viable I wonder. How is committing to follow the Government's Covid-19 guidance and observe social distancing a gimmick? Because most west end shows won't be returning until such time as contact on stage is allowed - I doubt we going to see a socially distanced on stage Les Mis at any point. So returning under an adapted on - stage format is a gimmick. |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 3, 2020 4:19:01 GMT
If they aren't stepping in to save the Albert Hall then what chance does any other theatre have? Do we know they definitely aren't? We have been told a package is being announced for theatre next week, which could, potentially, include financial support for places in the position that the RAH find themselves in? We will have to wait and see. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 4:44:32 GMT
I think people forget that despite the fact that the government spends a million pounds every 37 seconds or so every penny of that money is already allocated and in order to find money for saving anything they first have to decide what other need or resource is going to have to be deprived of that money. It's easy to say that they should be spending money on the things you care about when you're free to ignore that the money has to come from things other people care about. In the real world these decisions take time.
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