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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 3, 2020 6:37:03 GMT
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Post by stevej678 on Jul 3, 2020 6:55:29 GMT
How is committing to follow the Government's Covid-19 guidance and observe social distancing a gimmick? Because most west end shows won't be returning until such time as contact on stage is allowed - I doubt we going to see a socially distanced on stage Les Mis at any point. So returning under an adapted on - stage format is a gimmick. It's not though, is it? Firstly, The Mousetrap barely needs to be adapted for social distancing, as per Baz's article on its return, so any changes are likely to be minimal and barely noticeable. Secondly, labelling social distancing on stage as a gimmick suggests it's a marketing device intended to attract attention or publicity. No one is going to be plotting the show's return on the basis that audiences will be flocking to see two characters who would usually be stood one metre apart inch towards one metre plus! Equally, very few theatregoers are going to be eagerly booking tickets to experience the high excitement of characters exiting stage left without an embrace where there might usually be one. While some regular theatregoers might be curious about seeing a socially distanced auditorium, social distancing on stage is a means of being able to operate the show safely for those in the cast and therefore increase the prospect of receiving Government permission to reopen. If that means The Mousetrap is one of very few (perhaps the only) major West End show being staged for a limited time, then that may obviously increase footfall and attract initial media attention, but that still doesn't make social distancing on stage a gimmick in itself.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 7:10:59 GMT
Transparent AND very easy to breathe through seem like incompatible requirements, but maybe someone innovator will find a way.
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Post by TallPaul on Jul 3, 2020 8:38:16 GMT
Transparent AND very easy to breathe through seem like incompatible requirements, but maybe someone innovator will find a way. Google 'Ross Kemp face mask'. 😷
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 9:22:25 GMT
Google 'Ross Kemp face mask'. 😷 That was much more SFW than I feared it might be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 9:23:31 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 3, 2020 9:43:55 GMT
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 3, 2020 9:47:30 GMT
Sad news from The Stage:
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Post by zahidf on Jul 3, 2020 9:55:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 10:21:50 GMT
Let's hope it's enough to stave off complete disaster. I keep thinking about Tunbridge Wells Wetherspoons in what was once the opera house. It's a nice pub as Spoons go, but I really don't want to walk around London in a years time and see theatres I have fond memories of being turned into pubs, flats, offices, etc...
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Post by sf on Jul 3, 2020 10:38:55 GMT
It's easy to say that they should be spending money on the things you care about when you're free to ignore that the money has to come from things other people care about. True, up to a point - but it's galling to see the arts (and a lot of other things) being neglected while our government is engaged in flushing billions upon billions of pounds down the toilet on an exercise - Brexit - which is designed to make it more difficult, and in some cases impossible, for us to sell our goods and services to our closest neighbours, which will make us all poorer and cost tens if not hundreds of thousands of jobs, and which strips rights from every UK citizen and imposes a new and insulting layer of bureaucracy on millions of people who have chosen to make their homes here. Once upon a time the Conservatives were the party of fiscal prudency. That hasn't been the case at any point during the last two governments. And while spending is already allocated, governments do have ways of finding money if they need to. It's difficult not to find it galling that a government willing to chuck £14 million at a ferry company that didn't have any ferries is dragging its heels over bailing out the arts sector during an unprecedented national crisis.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 10:56:50 GMT
I think people forget that despite the fact that the government spends a million pounds every 37 seconds or so every penny of that money is already allocated and in order to find money for saving anything they first have to decide what other need or resource is going to have to be deprived of that money. It's easy to say that they should be spending money on the things you care about when you're free to ignore that the money has to come from things other people care about. In the real world these decisions take time. That's not necessarily true under current circumstances though - the govt is printing money and extending national debt at a pace, which is what you have to do if you shut down the economy temporarily and want something to be left to restart on the other side. So it's an addition to other spending not instead of other spending in this particular situation. The comparatively small amount of cash the creative sector would need to help it limp through to the other side is a minute drop in the massive ocean of debt that covid will leave us (and most other countries) with. And, as all of us here know very well, it will repay itself many many times over - it's not charity, it's a sensible investment in a big long-term income generator.
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Post by zahidf on Jul 3, 2020 11:03:17 GMT
Its an investment. Any money put in now to save the industry will be less than any to pay for the collapse of the industry and associated costs.
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Post by zahidf on Jul 3, 2020 11:17:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 11:29:35 GMT
God, that's just dreadful. Heartbreaking. NT front of house staff are fabulous - friendly even when dealing with rude people and clearly really engaged and enthused about what the theatre does. This is just carnage. It's unbearable.
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Post by zahidf on Jul 3, 2020 11:47:21 GMT
True unfortunately
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 3, 2020 12:08:37 GMT
I feel like the reason so little has been done is because the Government are fully expecting a second lockdown after the events of the 4th July and it would make little sense to put concrete plans in place.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 12:26:41 GMT
I feel like the reason so little has been done is because the Government are fully expecting a second lockdown after the events of the 4th July and it would make little sense to put concrete plans in place. I think you're right with one exception. If they feared a second lockdown as a result of July 4th, they wouldn't proceed with it. They're stalling because anything they do this time round, they have to do again in winter when the real second wave is likely to affect us on a bigger scale. And efforts to get theatres open this summer are almost futile as they'd likely be shut again by winter.
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 3, 2020 12:33:07 GMT
I feel like the reason so little has been done is because the Government are fully expecting a second lockdown after the events of the 4th July and it would make little sense to put concrete plans in place. I think you're right with one exception. If they feared a second lockdown as a result of July 4th, they wouldn't proceed with it. They're stalling because anything they do this time round, they have to do again in winter when the real second wave is likely to affect us on a bigger scale. And efforts to get theatres open this summer are almost futile as they'd likely be shut again by winter. I hate to be so cynical but I absolutely believe that the reason they are proceeding is so they can lay the blame on the public not being careful enough rather than the Government's awful and inept leadership.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 3, 2020 13:18:11 GMT
So apart from getting lashed at the pub first thing on Saturday morning what are people planning this weekend? A hairdo? A restaurant? Seeing someone you haven’t seen?
I noticed some bloke on one of the gay apps with the profile name “My bubble is open” so I suspect I know what he’s planning! 😝
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Post by theatreian on Jul 3, 2020 13:27:47 GMT
Passing the Turkish barbers I normally go to today I noticed you can book online. I did so once I got home and have a Turkish date next Wednesday at 10.20am thank goodness!!
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 3, 2020 13:38:13 GMT
Passing the Turkish barbers I normally go to today I noticed you can book online. I did so once I got home and have a Turkish date next Wednesday at 10.20am thank goodness!! Yeah I'm booked in for a hair cut. A month ago my niece said I looked like Boris Johnson, and I thought she liked me. Looks like Grizzly Adams now
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Post by basdfg on Jul 3, 2020 14:27:02 GMT
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Post by stevej678 on Jul 3, 2020 14:30:37 GMT
£10 million of funding to help Scotland's theatres and performing arts venues has been announced by the Scottish Culture Secretary. The main aims of the funding are to: - Remove the threat of insolvency prior to the end of March 2021;
- Allow for specialist/core staff to return from furlough or avoid redundancy to work on future sustainability plans;
- Increase the opportunities for commissioning and employment of freelance artists and creative practitioners.
Hopefully this increases the likelihood of something similar being announced for England's theatres in next week's summer statement.
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Post by scarpia on Jul 3, 2020 14:44:08 GMT
Of course it's better than nothing, and certainly better than anything Westminster is doing right now, but even £10m won't be enough to cover the cracks and stop theatres from falling through.
I hate this Government so much. They seem hell-bent on destroying anything good about the UK, and the one area where we are "world-beating" - the arts - they don't care one iota about.
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