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Jan 13, 2020 20:34:41 GMT
Post by lynette on Jan 13, 2020 20:34:41 GMT
Saw discussion starting on the Little Women thread so thought we ought to have dedicated thread. I was surprised to see that no women directors in the list....all very exclusive.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 13, 2020 21:37:56 GMT
Were there any female directors whose work deserved a nomination?
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Jan 13, 2020 21:52:56 GMT
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Post by justfran on Jan 13, 2020 21:52:56 GMT
I feel that the nominations are fairly predictable this year. Shame not to see Taron Egerton up for leading actor. I’d rather see Adam Driver win for Marriage Story than Joaquin Phoenix. Klaus gets my vote for animated film and 1917 definitely deserves some of the technical awards.
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 13, 2020 22:10:06 GMT
Were there any female directors whose work deserved a nomination? Greta Gerwig for Little Women, Olivia Wilde for Booksmart, Lorene Scafaria for Hustlers, Marielle Heller for A Beautiful Day In The Neighbourhood and Lulu Wang for The Farewell just off the top of my head. |
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Post by lynette on Jan 13, 2020 22:11:31 GMT
Were there any female directors whose work deserved a nomination? I’ve heard people say Little Women ...but I’ve not seen it. I have seen The Irishman and imo it is too long and old fashioned, what people used to think was a good drama. Enough of glamorising the mafia. |
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Jan 13, 2020 22:22:50 GMT
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 13, 2020 22:22:50 GMT
Were there any female directors whose work deserved a nomination? I’ve heard people say Little Women ...but I’ve not seen it. I have seen The Irishman and imo it is too long and old fashioned, what people used to think was a good drama. Enough of glamorising the mafia. I actually saw The Irishman doing the opposite of glamorizing the mafia. The main character destroys his relationship with his daughter because of it, all 3 main characters end up old, infirm and ultimately completely alone because of it. |
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Jan 13, 2020 22:42:54 GMT
Post by intoanewlife on Jan 13, 2020 22:42:54 GMT
Were there any female directors whose work deserved a nomination? I’ve heard people say Little Women ...but I’ve not seen it. I have seen The Irishman and imo it is too long and old fashioned, what people used to think was a good drama. Enough of glamorising the mafia. I hated The Irishman...but I do appreciate that it is just not my kind of film. I need to care about a single person in a film to really enjoy it and I didn't care about anyone is that film. I'm yet to see Little Women. |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 13, 2020 22:46:22 GMT
Were there any female directors whose work deserved a nomination? Greta Gerwig for Little Women, Olivia Wilde for Booksmart, Lorene Scafaria for Hustlers, Marielle Heller for A Beautiful Day In The Neighbourhood and Lulu Wang for The Farewell just off the top of my head. Would any of them win against their male counterparts though? Did they do a better job? We can all list of a range of women who directed films last year, but do any of them actually deserve to be nominated or is it just lip service to nominate someone just so there is a token woman in there? I think that is actually far more offensive than not nominating someone. |
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Jan 13, 2020 22:47:15 GMT
Post by intoanewlife on Jan 13, 2020 22:47:15 GMT
I’ve heard people say Little Women ...but I’ve not seen it. I have seen The Irishman and imo it is too long and old fashioned, what people used to think was a good drama. Enough of glamorising the mafia. all 3 main characters end up old, infirm and ultimately completely alone because of it. Good...then there is some justice in the world x |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 23:17:46 GMT
I haven’t seen all the nominated movies yet, but pleased to see Brad Pitt nominated for an acting oscar, along with Renee for Judy. Deserving wins imo. I’m not sure I can see Joker sweeping the board. It was a good film but I’m not sure it was exceptional.
Nice to see De Niro in two movies nominated for best picture too, along with Netflix getting in there too with multiple movies for best picture. I haven’t seen it yet, but I can see Sam Mendes getting the director award if it’s as technically complex as I’m hearing.
I think it might be Laura Dern’s then too (she’s out out some brilliant work over the last few years) along with Brad’s.... but by god, that best supporting actor category is going to be tough for any of them to win! It’s basically acting royalty right there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 23:48:02 GMT
The acting winners are increasingly looking to be Phoenix, Zellweger, Pitt and Dern (the last two are pretty much as certain as you can get).
Pretty much everything else is still up for grabs. My suspicion is they will give Director to Tarantino (deserved or not) and might give Gerwig Adapted Screenplay as a sort-of consolation for not nominating her for directing.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Academy follows the HFPA and gives 1917 Best Film. I think The Irishman is going to be the film that ends up empty-handed.
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Post by kathryn on Jan 13, 2020 23:56:02 GMT
Greta Gerwig for Little Women, Olivia Wilde for Booksmart, Lorene Scafaria for Hustlers, Marielle Heller for A Beautiful Day In The Neighbourhood and Lulu Wang for The Farewell just off the top of my head. Would any of them win against their male counterparts though? Did they do a better job? We can all list of a range of women who directed films last year, but do any of them actually deserve to be nominated or is it just lip service to nominate someone just so there is a token woman in there? I think that is actually far more offensive than not nominating someone. Well, considering that female-directed films have their actors nominated in the major acting categories, and one of them is even up for Best Picture, I’d say yes. Actors and films do not direct themselves. |
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 13, 2020 23:57:41 GMT
Greta Gerwig for Little Women, Olivia Wilde for Booksmart, Lorene Scafaria for Hustlers, Marielle Heller for A Beautiful Day In The Neighbourhood and Lulu Wang for The Farewell just off the top of my head. Would any of them win against their male counterparts though? Did they do a better job? We can all list of a range of women who directed films last year, but do any of them actually deserve to be nominated or is it just lip service to nominate someone just so there is a token woman in there? I think that is actually far more offensive than not nominating someone. To be honest I'd say it's more offensive to assume all the men did a better job that the women cited so there we are. |
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Jan 13, 2020 23:59:49 GMT
Post by intoanewlife on Jan 13, 2020 23:59:49 GMT
I'd love Parasite to get BP and Director but I doubt it will. It certainly deserves it.
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Jan 14, 2020 0:00:50 GMT
Post by intoanewlife on Jan 14, 2020 0:00:50 GMT
Would any of them win against their male counterparts though? Did they do a better job? We can all list of a range of women who directed films last year, but do any of them actually deserve to be nominated or is it just lip service to nominate someone just so there is a token woman in there? I think that is actually far more offensive than not nominating someone. To be honest I'd say it's more offensive to assume all the men did a better job that the women cited so there we are. I didn't say that though did I x |
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Jan 14, 2020 0:15:40 GMT
Post by intoanewlife on Jan 14, 2020 0:15:40 GMT
Would any of them win against their male counterparts though? Did they do a better job? We can all list of a range of women who directed films last year, but do any of them actually deserve to be nominated or is it just lip service to nominate someone just so there is a token woman in there? I think that is actually far more offensive than not nominating someone. Well, considering that female-directed films have their actors nominated in the major acting categories, and one of them is even up for Best Picture, I’d say yes. Actors and films do not direct themselves. Oh I dunno, there are tonnes of mediocre films out there that have one really standout performance in them that make them and that get nominations, that doesn't mean they should get Best Picture or Director awards based on a single performance. In the end it is all subjective to us mere mortals and it is certainly an old boys club. I enjoyed Hustlers far more than Once Upon a Time in Hollywood or The Irishman. But it's not really the kind of film that usually wins Oscars. Booksmart was also excellent, but falls into the same category. I wouldn't have given Hollywood a single nomination for anything and I think is by far Tarantino's worst film, but it has received his most nominations ever. I haven't seen Little Women but it hasn't been nominated for Director anywhere, so obviously the Oscar judges are not the only ones who think it didn't deserve it. |
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Post by crowblack on Jan 14, 2020 0:22:12 GMT
'Mainstream' TV is streets ahead of 'mainstream' cinema at the moment - most of the films on today's list could have been made 30 or 40 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 1:01:36 GMT
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Jan 14, 2020 1:12:01 GMT
Post by intoanewlife on Jan 14, 2020 1:12:01 GMT
Yup I'd agree with this too. Lighthouse deserved more nods. Rebecca Ferguson also deserved a nod for Doctor Sleep, she was amazing. |
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Jan 14, 2020 1:34:44 GMT
Post by perfectspy on Jan 14, 2020 1:34:44 GMT
Were there any female directors whose work deserved a nomination? Greta Gerwig for Little Women, Olivia Wilde for Booksmart, Lorene Scafaria for Hustlers, Marielle Heller for A Beautiful Day In The Neighbourhood and Lulu Wang for The Farewell just off the top of my head. None of them better then the ones nominated. How many film versions have we had of Little Women? |
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Jan 14, 2020 1:44:25 GMT
Post by perfectspy on Jan 14, 2020 1:44:25 GMT
The Irishman is a solid film but not the type to rush back and watch again. Great to watch as you will probably never see that line up again.
Joker is another that is good but a little over rated. Great direction though and Phoenix was superb.
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Post by hal9000 on Jan 14, 2020 4:04:39 GMT
I am very pleased for Antonio Banderas. Like Scarlett, he has finally received his first Oscar nomination. Pain And Glory was fantastic and he gave the performance of the year.
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Jan 14, 2020 6:07:46 GMT
Were there any female directors whose work deserved a nomination? Greta Gerwig for Little Women, Olivia Wilde for Booksmart, Lorene Scafaria for Hustlers, Marielle Heller for A Beautiful Day In The Neighbourhood and Lulu Wang for The Farewell just off the top of my head. The fact that Joker is nominated over any of these films annoys the hell out of me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 8:04:24 GMT
Well, considering that female-directed films have their actors nominated in the major acting categories, and one of them is even up for Best Picture, I’d say yes. Actors and films do not direct themselves. I haven't seen Little Women but it hasn't been nominated for Director anywhere, so obviously the Oscar judges are not the only ones who think it didn't deserve it. Or alternatively, obviously the Oscar judges are not the only ones who’ll reward any man’s work before seeing the value in a woman’s. |
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Jan 14, 2020 8:22:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 8:22:11 GMT
Greta Gerwig for Little Women, Olivia Wilde for Booksmart, Lorene Scafaria for Hustlers, Marielle Heller for A Beautiful Day In The Neighbourhood and Lulu Wang for The Farewell just off the top of my head. None of them better then the ones nominated. How many film versions have we had of Little Women? How on earth is it relevant that there have been film versions of Little Women before? |
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