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Mar 15, 2021 14:12:10 GMT
Post by talkingheads on Mar 15, 2021 14:12:10 GMT
So, what do we all make of the nominations? I am quite conflicted, because the vast majority of the films haven't even been released in the UK yet. In fact this will be the first time I haven't seen all the Best Picture and Best Screenplay nominations before the awards. In the case of Promising Young Woman, there isn't even a hint of a release date, which astonishes me considering it's been available to rent in the US for months, as has Sound of Metal: www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56363640
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Mar 15, 2021 14:17:08 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 14:17:08 GMT
Davis & Boseman deserve to win for their performances in Ma Rainey's Black Bottom. Didn't particularly think Borat did anything interesting or nomination-worthy this time round but others have raved about it.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 15, 2021 14:20:08 GMT
Fun fact: Glenn Close is the third actor to get a nomination for both the Oscar and the Razzie Award for the same performance.
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 15, 2021 14:29:48 GMT
Yeah it's frustrating that loads of films aren't released here yet when there's been buzz around them in the US for half a year. I don't know why they're so adamant to push for cinema-exclusive releases in other parts of the world but are perfectly happy for streaming releases in the US, we're really not that far ahead of them when it comes to opening back up and surely the US is the bigger market to be targeting for cinema release anyway. These films are small enough that releasing them to rent probably wouldn't impact them too badly since the only people who would have seen them are likely those to stream them if it's available.
As for the nominations, there's not many surprises and nothing too egregious. The worst of it is probably that One Night in Miami and Ma Rainey's Black Bottom aren't best picture noms, Deleoy Lindo was snubbed and Lakeith Stanfield got a nom but for supporting (some of the worst category fudging I've ever seen - I guess Judas and the Black Messiah just had no lead then? Or maybe they're so bold as to convince us it was Jesse Plemons) but obviously no one wants to be up for lead against Chadwick Boseman which is understandable but it doesn't make it sound any less stupid.
Another Round is almost guaranteed its international film win - it's got so much hype behind it and I've not heard of any of the others (but that could very well be me being ignorant). The rest of the categories I'd say are more up in the air, even best actor - Boseman's still probably the front-runner but it feels less certain than it did a few months ago. I'm sure we'll all be up in arms over some decisions no matter what happens though, it's always the case and honestly a big part of the fun!
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Mar 15, 2021 14:34:40 GMT
Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 15, 2021 14:34:40 GMT
Fun fact: Glenn Close is the third actor to get a nomination for both the Oscar and the Razzie Award for the same performance. The other two?
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Mar 15, 2021 14:46:05 GMT
Post by talkingheads on Mar 15, 2021 14:46:05 GMT
Well I hope that Carey Mulligan gets best Actress. Been a huge fan of hers since Doctor Who and from what I hear, Promising Young Woman is a barnstorming performance.
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Mar 15, 2021 15:23:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 15:23:35 GMT
Chadwick Boseman is almost certain to win Best Actor. The others are all up for grabs, though I think Daniel Kaluuya will win Supporting Actor.
I'd love to see Carey Mulligan win, but I do wonder if the Academy will follow the Globes and give it to Andra Day. Frances McDormand is great but I'm not sure she really needs a third statuette so soon after her second.
Supporting actress is the intriguing one - Maria Bakalova has the momentum, but the Academy might decide it is Glenn Close's time for a performance that got decidedly mixed reviews. Colman won't win again so soon.
Nomadland and Chloe Zhao are fairly certain to win I think. It's a shame Regina King wasn't also nominated.
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Mar 15, 2021 15:33:11 GMT
Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 15, 2021 15:33:11 GMT
Fun fact: Glenn Close is the third actor to get a nomination for both the Oscar and the Razzie Award for the same performance. The other two? Amy Irving for Yentl and James Coco for Only When I Laugh
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Mar 17, 2021 0:46:57 GMT
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 17, 2021 0:46:57 GMT
Over the last two evenings I've been lucky enough to catch The Father and Nomadland - both absolutely superb films.
Nomadland for me should win Best Picture (and cinematography and director), and Frances should win best Actress. I understand the love for Carey Mulligan (and I think she's very good in Promising Young Woman) but the film is all over the shop (not in a good way). I do not understand why Emerald Fennell has been nominated for as much as she has - there's far too much going on.
Controversially, I disliked everything about Ma Rainey's Black Bottom (including everyone in it.). Chadwick is guaranteed to win but he was not good, and nor was Viola. I'd give Anthony Hopkins the award in a heartbeat - his performance in the Father is devastating and beautifully honest. Olivia Colman is also excellent (as ever) but I've not seen enough of the other nominees to say if she should win.
Going to watch Trial of the Chicago 7 and Mank in the next few days -
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Mar 17, 2021 9:33:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 9:33:55 GMT
Over the last two evenings I've been lucky enough to catch The Father and Nomadland - both absolutely superb films. Nomadland for me should win Best Picture (and cinematography and director), and Frances should win best Actress. I understand the love for Carey Mulligan (and I think she's very good in Promising Young Woman) but the film is all over the shop (not in a good way). I do not understand why Emerald Fennell has been nominated for as much as she has - there's far too much going on. Controversially, I disliked everything about Ma Rainey's Black Bottom (including everyone in it.). Chadwick is guaranteed to win but he was not good, and nor was Viola. I'd give Anthony Hopkins the award in a heartbeat - his performance in the Father is devastating and beautifully honest. Olivia Colman is also excellent (as ever) but I've not seen enough of the other nominees to say if she should win. Going to watch Trial of the Chicago 7 and Mank in the next few days - Interesting. Any particular reason? Boseman learnt to play the Trumpet specifically for that role, given everything going on behind the scenes his commitment to the role was outstanding, imo. I struggled with Mank but have no allegiance to Citizen Kane or that particular period. Felt like I've seen other Hollywood periods do it better. Oldham's drunken monologue in the 2nd half was pretty intense and his plight throughout was convincing but all this film really served to do for me was confirm that Hollywood was and still is full of sh*tbags. If that's Oscar-winning then the irony is lost on a lot of people.
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 17, 2021 11:25:50 GMT
It's great that he learnt to play the trumpet (I hadn't actually clocked that) and obviously huge credit with everything going on, but I just didn't find the film worked or came together in any way at all. To me, it felt like they were all giving stage performances on film (like, the performances all felt enormous). Both Chadwick and Viola are excellent talents but I sat there going 'this is just boring and should be more exciting'.
I get that I'm in the minority on this as lots of other people have enjoyed it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 11:37:24 GMT
Intriguing. I wonder if that's a product of the screenplay being developed from the stage play and film direction channelling that energy.
Likewise, I'm sure many of the films I didn't enjoy others raved about, Mank included.
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Mar 17, 2021 11:55:52 GMT
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 17, 2021 11:55:52 GMT
Totally.
Really was blown away by Nomadland. I had high expectations with all the press around it, but it really knocked me out. And it's shot so beautifully too.
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Mar 20, 2021 12:47:03 GMT
Post by lynette on Mar 20, 2021 12:47:03 GMT
Just read that they want the actors to turn up in person and no zooms allowed. Isn’t that a bit counter productive. Surely better to have a winner express delight live on a zoom than someone accept in his or her place with a dim smile? And you can rely on actors to make a bit of an ‘entrance’ even on a zoom.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 13:29:23 GMT
A lot of the Zoom appearances at the other awards shows have been quite funny.
I think it's pretty stupid of the Oscars to try to force people to turn up in person. It is still a pandemic, being nominated for an award that you really have no reason to pick up in person isn't a good enough excuse for travelling in my book.
I expect some nominees who don't live in LA just won't bother. Amanda Seyfried lives in New York and recently had a baby, I can't imagine she will want to travel. Vanessa Kirby lives in London and I'm sure she isn't the only one who is outside America at the minute and might then get hit with quarantine requirements, and anyone currently working will probably be in a secure production bubble (and may already have quarantined) so may not be allowed to attend.
Seems like a decision that will get the Academy some bad publicity and probably backfire.
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Mar 20, 2021 18:03:11 GMT
Post by lynette on Mar 20, 2021 18:03:11 GMT
It’s like they can’t be bothered to do the techie work. They could have made something really good with people in their local parks cavorting etc. And if there are any pro bubbles then that would have been fun to see and good publicity. Oh well.
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Mar 20, 2021 18:48:46 GMT
Post by peggs on Mar 20, 2021 18:48:46 GMT
And they've stipulated people must dress up, no accepting via zoom in your pjs with your dog like other awards have done which frankly seemed quite charming.
Yeah seems unwise to open themselves up to criticism of people travelling unnecessarily.
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Post by talkingheads on Mar 21, 2021 10:54:35 GMT
To be honest I hope people refuse to travel and the Oscars end up looking embarrassed. What a stupid stipulation, making people travel during a pandemic, especially when the technology is there. Also it opens us up to even more 'one rule for the rich and famous, another for us plebs who cannot travel'.
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Post by peggs on Mar 21, 2021 16:05:12 GMT
To be honest I hope people refuse to travel and the Oscars end up looking embarrassed. What a stupid stipulation, making people travel during a pandemic, especially when the technology is there. Also it opens us up to even more 'one rule for the rich and famous, another for us plebs who cannot travel'. I rather agree. I'm rather tired of being told I should laud someone for wearing the same suit to more than one award as a great saving to the environment or whatever when they probably came on a private plane etc etc.
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Mar 21, 2021 21:21:26 GMT
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 21, 2021 21:21:26 GMT
To be honest I hope people refuse to travel and the Oscars end up looking embarrassed. What a stupid stipulation, making people travel during a pandemic, especially when the technology is there. Also it opens us up to even more 'one rule for the rich and famous, another for us plebs who cannot travel'. I rather agree. I'm rather tired of being told I should laud someone for wearing the same suit to more than one award as a great saving to the environment or whatever when they probably came on a private plane etc etc. Yeah a bunch of rich people gathering to celebrate themselves while indulging in extravagance might have passed for escapism in the public's opinion before, but right now it's not good optics and I don't know why they'd want to encourage that kind of narrative after the backlash to stuff like the imagine song. They're essentially rubbing the fact that they've mostly been able to work, and in any case could easily have survived without work, in the face of millions who potentially haven't been working for a year or who have been slaving away every day putting themselves at risk. I should think they'd want to encourage the celebrities to look a little more modest and, you know, not totally detached from reality right now and this rule seems to go completely against that, but I suppose without the red carpets and the in-person speeches and performances what else is the Oscars but a bunch of colleagues awarding each other for a job well done that the public has no real stake in. Or maybe they are in fact just so detached that they don't realise how bad this will look.
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Mar 22, 2021 7:11:06 GMT
Post by lynette on Mar 22, 2021 7:11:06 GMT
What you said at the end there...so detached.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 17:11:47 GMT
I rather agree. I'm rather tired of being told I should laud someone for wearing the same suit to more than one award as a great saving to the environment or whatever when they probably came on a private plane etc etc. Yeah a bunch of rich people gathering to celebrate themselves while indulging in extravagance might have passed for escapism in the public's opinion before, but right now it's not good optics and I don't know why they'd want to encourage that kind of narrative after the backlash to stuff like the imagine song. They're essentially rubbing the fact that they've mostly been able to work, and in any case could easily have survived without work, in the face of millions who potentially haven't been working for a year or who have been slaving away every day putting themselves at risk. I should think they'd want to encourage the celebrities to look a little more modest and, you know, not totally detached from reality right now and this rule seems to go completely against that, but I suppose without the red carpets and the in-person speeches and performances what else is the Oscars but a bunch of colleagues awarding each other for a job well done that the public has no real stake in. Or maybe they are in fact just so detached that they don't realise how bad this will look. They literally have no idea. There was a 'round table' (round camera?) interview with some of the actresses (Hollywood Reporter) - Glenn Close and Kate Winslet in particular were so beyond tone deaf in their interviews, I could not believe it. Winslet begging the general public to understand how hard they work (vomit). They have no clue what is going on. I think it would be a greater statement for most of these celebs to not bother attending, and having their awards accepted for them on their behalf. The whole thing is disgusting right at this moment for me anyway, and this is coming from a real awards nut queen.
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Apr 23, 2021 11:32:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2021 11:32:04 GMT
New trailers for In the Heights (introduced by Lin-Manuel Miranda) and West Side Story (introduced by Ariana DeBose) are being released during the Oscars broadcast, as part of the show itself.
And they are doing a pre-show with all the Best Original Song nominees performing, and a post-show with winner interviews, each hosted by a couple of lesser known but up and coming stars (including DeBose, Colman Domingo and Andrew Rannells, so Broadway is well represented!).
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Apr 23, 2021 22:59:45 GMT
Post by sfsusan on Apr 23, 2021 22:59:45 GMT
Winslet begging the general public to understand how hard they work (vomit). They have no clue what is going on. This was in answer to a question about public misperceptions about their job. I'm curious as to why it struck you as vomit-worthy.
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Apr 24, 2021 9:20:05 GMT
Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 24, 2021 9:20:05 GMT
Miss Winslet speaks as if we should all be “clapping for actors” at 7pm nightly. The early starts, the long hours (especially if one is working on a low budget film) not to mention the preparation required.
Millions of people do that day in day out and for a pittance in return. Seriously, get over yourself love.
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