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Post by WireHangers on May 16, 2017 11:54:36 GMT
Just finished episode three and I am absolutely loving it! Elizabeth Moss as Offred is so convincing that I actually feel her anger, confusion and frustration. Her definition between "June" in the Flashbacks and "Offred" are so good that I genuinely believe the character has witness this huge change in Government.
The rest of the cast are pretty stellar as well. I was worried about the way Hulu have sexed up the characters by having the Commander and Serena Joy played by young, attractive actors in their prime rather than middle aged people like they're described in the books but both actors are tremendous so far. Serena Joy is very much like Cersei Lannister in the sense that she's an awful, awful human being but you can't but love her and want her to have more screen time.
I think the modernisation of the setting is really well thought out as well as the retaining of people of colour, the book has anyone who isn't white deported back to their "country of origin." It's a fantastic adaption of a fantastic book and I implore anyone to watch it if they can.
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Post by confessor on May 16, 2017 17:12:51 GMT
Good to hear that you're enjoying it. I read, and loved, the book several years ago. I hear that Channel 4 have picked up the rights to screen it later this month, so I'll definitely be tuning in.
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Post by WireHangers on May 16, 2017 18:07:48 GMT
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Post by hal9000 on May 18, 2017 8:50:00 GMT
I can't wait to see it. Like many others, I read it during high school. Modernising it with black Handmaids works quite well, I think. Likely interracial relationships are taboo, but one can well imagine people like Herman Cain and Omarosa keeping in step with the PTB.
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Post by ali973 on May 19, 2017 22:03:12 GMT
I've been watching it religiously. Really enjoying it.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 22:16:16 GMT
I'm transfixed by it also (and given Gilead's fundamentalist underpinning, watching it irreligiously).
I don't know if anyone has been following The Leftovers but that's also wonderful (only a few episodes left, sadly).
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 19:10:10 GMT
Unavoidable comparisons with this week's episode and Trump's seeming appreciation of the Saudi regime and its attitude to gender equality.
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Post by WireHangers on Jun 17, 2017 14:54:58 GMT
****SEASON ONE FINALE SPOILERS******
What an ending! I love how they remain faithful to the book even when making all those changes. You can tell they've been respectful with the source material. Having all the Handmaids begin to rebel as well as Aunt Lydia's face when she realises she hasn't crushed their spirit as much as she though she had was such an incredible addition and it speaks volumes for future seasons by showing the tiniest cracks beginning to appear in the regime. I know Aunt Lydia a sadistic w(b)itch but I can't help but loving her and I think her love for the Handmaid's is genuine - in a f u c k e d up kind of way.
The scene between Luke and Moira was really touching - her reaction when she found out he considers her family broke my heart as did when the refugee worker was flippantly giving her money and insurance and she was just absolutely speechless. I can't wait for her to gather her thoughts and become bad a s s again in Season 2. Moira and Luke are going to be a formidable team.
Things I'm hoping to see more of are in Season Two are: Little America and the refugees, especially escaped Handmaid's and Marthas. I also love the references to the Martha's being organised throughout the series - I don't for a second think that Rita isn't part of that, especially after she revealed her son had died during the Gilead War and her eagerness to grab the letters when Offered was taken away. In the book there's a reference that the story take place entirely in Harvard Square and the rest of the city is carrying on as normal. Men going to work, woman staying at home, not even aware of what's going on with the Hanmaids. I'd love to see public life and the fear they're all living with as well as their reaction to just how bad the Gilead regime is when they realise every woman is going to be eventually to sorted into some sort of submissive role.
I really hope we get to see the Econowives in Season Two. I reckon they are so resentful of the regime since they are expected to act as Martha, Handmaid and Wife that they'd be keen to grind down the regime as well in their own organised way. I was interested in them from the tiny glimpses we saw in the books. It would be really interesting to see a character give us her point of view of being in the middle of the Gilead hierarchy, not exactly a powerful wife but not exactly a powerless Handmaid.
I'm glad we'll finally get to see the colonies, as the show runner confirmed in various interviews. It's been confirmed Offred's mother makes an appearance in Season 2 so I bet Offred gets sent to the colonies and reunites her with her mother. Any ideas on who could play Offerd's mother?
I wish we could have seen a softer side to Serena Joy. The book makes her almost likeable but the TV show just has her a cold, heartless, you-know-what. I really rooted for her earlier in the series, I even compared her to Cersai Lannister, but she became very 2 dimensional as the series progressed. I know there were glimmers of her softer side, like giving Offred the music box, but it didn't ring true and it after she had locked Offred up for two weeks. I think Serena Joy has been a missed opportunity.
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Post by alece10 on Jun 17, 2017 15:17:30 GMT
I'd never heard of it and came upon the series by chance. Really enjoying it even though it's quite disturbing.
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Post by WireHangers on Jun 17, 2017 17:11:34 GMT
I'd never heard of it and came upon the series by chance. Really enjoying it even though it's quite disturbing. How far into it are you?
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Post by alece10 on Jun 17, 2017 17:38:48 GMT
I'd never heard of it and came upon the series by chance. Really enjoying it even though it's quite disturbing. How far into it are you? Up to date.
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Post by kathryn on Jun 17, 2017 17:57:24 GMT
UK up to date? We've only had 3 episodes whereas they've had the season finale in the US
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Post by alece10 on Jun 17, 2017 18:46:02 GMT
Oh I see. I am up to date as far as Channel 4 is concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 21:02:11 GMT
Another fan via C4. I did try to read the book years ago, but found it rather dull. Perhaps this will inspire me to pick it up again.
Love Elisabeth Moss in this - and our modern-day Rosa Klebb of course!
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Post by crowblack on Jun 17, 2017 23:48:14 GMT
What a fantastic, harrowing series - this and Broken are the best things on TV at the moment, I think (last week's Broken was Boys from the Blackstuff-level good).
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Post by kathryn on Jun 18, 2017 10:47:45 GMT
Another fan via C4. I did try to read the book years ago, but found it rather dull. Perhaps this will inspire me to pick it up again. Love Elisabeth Moss in this - and our modern-day Rosa Klebb of course! My English teacher lent me the book when I was 15 or so and I found it a proper slog - absolutely hated that it, haven't read anything by Atwood since. Possibly I was too young for it at the time. Loving the series, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 11:19:57 GMT
I've got to be in the right mood for Margaret Atwood and admit to finding 'The Handmaid's Tale' a bit of a slog. It's a great short novel fleshed out a little too much for my liking.
I haven't seen it yet and will probably make an attempt to watch it but I have to admit the thought of the TV series having dragged the book out for 10 episodes does fill me with a touch of dread.
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Post by viserys on Jun 21, 2017 11:48:25 GMT
While it's a bit slow-going, I think it's much better written than American Gods which seems to have been padded out beyond stretching point with some episodes hardly moving at all, so they could wring two seasons from it.
For Handmaid's Tale the flashbacks make a lot of sense as it helps to visualize how much the women (and everyone) have lost and that Gilead is not some little community in 19th century (which it often looks like) but a future USA where so much modern technology seems to have been lost. It really jarred to see that laptop recently.
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Post by crowblack on Jun 21, 2017 14:15:30 GMT
a future USA where so much modern technology seems to have been lost On of the many things I really love about this series is the way the misogynistic future / alternative world has some of the trappings of the current fashion for 'artisanal' retro, kitchen goddess living, which (in the real world) often comes across as a way to guilt trip women back into the kitchen. The clothing in the series often looks like something out of a Toast catalogue (homespun linen aprons etc.), the supermarket scene very North London, and there was a nice line in an early episode about having to bake everything from scratch.
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Post by firefingers on Jun 21, 2017 14:49:29 GMT
It really jarred to see that laptop recently. I loved that. It showed that technology hadn't been forgotten, but very few were trusted to have it. A good us and them sign and reminds people that this is current-ish.
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Post by kathryn on Jun 21, 2017 15:43:22 GMT
It really jarred to see that laptop recently. I loved that. It showed that technology hadn't been forgotten, but very few were trusted to have it. A good us and them sign and reminds people that this is current-ish. Yes, contrast the laptop with the deliberately primitive childbirth, the apparent lack of pregnancy tests, and unwillingness to acknowledge male sterility. Utter craziness, if there's an increase in birth defects and a population crisis, not to have the best medical technology possible to help with pregnancy and childbirth. But then I wonder how much of what the inhabitants of Gilead 'know' or are told is so is actually true.
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Post by viserys on Jun 21, 2017 16:18:04 GMT
It really jarred to see that laptop recently. I loved that. It showed that technology hadn't been forgotten, but very few were trusted to have it. A good us and them sign and reminds people that this is current-ish. Right. I didn't mean "jarred" in a bad way, it was just so... surprising to see that thing suddenly and realize we're not in some distant past.
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Post by PalelyLaura on Jun 22, 2017 12:29:41 GMT
I really need to watch this. Studied this book at A Level and loved it. Suspect I'll be horrified at how relevant it all is. Back in 2001, I knew that MA had based the book on things that had happened or were really happening somewhere in the world, but it never seemed quite so close to home.
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Post by alece10 on Jul 28, 2017 14:10:53 GMT
I've been watching and enjoying it but god it's slow. And have to say I don't fully understand it but I'm a bit thick anyway.
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Post by charliec on Jul 28, 2017 15:35:56 GMT
It's a really good example of how to adapt a thin book into something that feels richer and bigger on screen. They've already widened the scope of the world and built things into it which will sustain a few series worth of stuff. I have to do this sort of things as part of my job and I'm really envious at how skillfully they've done it!
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