Strictly Come Dancing

He he! Pass the lemon puffs Caify!

I'd be interested to know what it is you love about Susan? Genuinely. I can't bear to watch her dance nor to listen to her when she opens her mouth. Normally I can see what it is when people like someone I don't or vice versa, but with her I really can't. 

Wasn't overly impressed with anyone last week (Debbie and Giovanni probably being the most entertaining) but loved Aston and Janette's routine tonight, although I think it was more what Janette was doing with her body than anything else. Absolutely ridiculously good.

If anything, this year is just proving to me how ridiculous it was that Danny Mac didn't win last year.

I mean he came out week one and delivered this:



No one last week did anything even 25% as good.

I guess I've never been one to care about the 'journey' or how much experience someone has had meaning that they should/shouldn't win.

Nooooooo! Wash your mouth out! Dame Claudia is currently one of the only reasons I'm still watching. She's hilarious.

My view is that La Winkleman can be funny, but not when her little acts with Tess Daley are laboriously performed and poorly produced. She is fine upstairs with the dancers after they have performed but if she has to do something of her own when she is with Tess then please can it something amusing. Reminds me of Elaine Stritch's farewell to Noel Coward after she had finished playing 'Sail Away' in London. As she went through the departure barrier she turned and called out to Coward: 'Don't forget to write' then she lowered her voice and added: 'Something funny next time!'

Thanks for the replies to my You'll Never Walk Alone question... I was already aware of the Liverpool pop group Gerry and the Pacemakers and how their song was adopted by Liverpool FC as their anthem back in the sixties. I should have explained my ignorance more clearly. Why? Why this particular song? How is it related to football? (Someone I know through a friend is a great Liverpool FC supporter, and has been for many years. When I asked him, he had no idea. He also had no idea it was taken from Carousel. He also had no idea what Carousel was. In fact he gave me a funny look. )

From what I've read, it's the words and themes of the song. One article I've just read calls it 'a communal anthem of triumph and diversity', and that resonates pretty clearly with football fans. But to me, that's why the song is so popular. Just because we know it in the context of Carousel, it doesn't mean that those who hear it for the first time thanks to Gerry & the Pacemakers (or whoever) can't take away their own feelings from the song, based on the lyrics alone. That's what makes it great; yes it's an emotional climax to quite a dark story of a musical, but when isolated, it's also a generic (and I use the term very loosely, nothing about YNWA is generic!!) anthem of hope, which is why it's been covered in pop music so many times. 

For what it's worth, here's a (very slightly) more in depth article which explains How You'll Never Walk Alone became a Liverpool F.C. anthem and why it resonates so much. Again, after the Hillsborough tragedy in 1989, that song and the lyrics became more poignant for them than ever.

Then I'm still not 100% sure what your question is exactly, because I really don't think it's any more complicated than what you've read! Maybe there is no particular rhyme or reason, just one of those things that 'happened'. Liverpudlian band releases song that gets to No.1, No.1 song gets played to Liverpudlian football crowd before match/manager of Liverpudlian football team really likes the song, Liverpudlian crowd take to the song and continue to sing it long after it was continuously played as it was at No.1, song becomes adopted anthem of Liverpool football club!

For something with more of a Strictly slant, apparently Tim Lovejoy, (TV husband of Simon Rimmer on Sunday Brunch) sounded like he was about to drop the spoiler of all spoilers about who may have left last night live on TV this morning in an unscripted section, but saved himself before anything too important came out, which sounds like exactly the type of thing Tim Lovejoy would do.

The reality is you'll probably never get an answer to that question, football fans are a funny breed, sometimes something just catches on for no good reason and stays. During the 2004/5 season, the chorus of the tune to Ring of Fire started becoming a thing at Liverpool games, especially during the European Cup run. No real reason for it, Johnny Cash has no discernible links to the team or the city. The story goes that a gang of lads started singing it on a coach trip to an away game, it caught on and became a thing from then on. 

There was thing reported in the media that there was a bit of an anti Beatles feeling in Liverpool in the 60s after they moved to London and were perceived to leaving Liverpool behind. Ive heard the band refute this and plenty of people from the city say the same but there could have been a feeling amongst some of championing a song by another merseybeat band as a bit of a snub to the Beatles. 

As others have said, the lyrics are very suited to being a football fan, the idea of going through the bad times with the hope that better times are coming and that sticking together will help things get better is pretty central to the idea of supporting a team. 

Agreed, that was more of a possible aside rather than a definite reason. The more general point is that there is probably no absolute reason, just a set of circumstances that came together at the same time that made it catch on.

Nooo! Gorgeous Gorka.....