|
|
Post by A.Ham on Oct 27, 2023 10:20:05 GMT
Just to update those trying to purchase the souvenir brochure with the free shipping code - they emailed me back earlier to say they've fixed the glitch, and I can confirm the code now works - order successfully placed.
|
|
258 posts
|
Post by notmymuse on Oct 27, 2023 10:23:30 GMT
Am I alone in thinking this production is overwrought, over-indulgent and frequently incomprehensible to anyone unfamiliar to the original narrative. And as for that tour round the Strand at beginning of Act 2 - all very clever but WHY?? I felt similar, but I generally miss the point of anything even remotely arty, so assumed everyone else must understand why it's done. I was also mainly consumed by wondering if the vocal was live and being worried that a random member of the public would jump in front of the camera so found it a bit distracting. I felt it was innovative but actually distracted me/the audience from the plot/the point of the song, but the audience loved it. |
|
|
|
Post by yeahyeahyeahs on Oct 27, 2023 10:26:41 GMT
where is the location of the "lottery" seats?
|
|
3,466 posts
|
Post by ceebee on Oct 27, 2023 10:48:33 GMT
Am I alone in thinking this production is overwrought, over-indulgent and frequently incomprehensible to anyone unfamiliar to the original narrative. And as for that tour round the Strand at beginning of Act 2 - all very clever but WHY?? I felt similar, but I generally miss the point of anything even remotely arty, so assumed everyone else must understand why it's done. I was also mainly consumed by wondering if the vocal was live and being worried that a random member of the public would jump in front of the camera so found it a bit distracting. I felt it was innovative but actually distracted me/the audience from the plot/the point of the song, but the audience loved it. Why worry about the art of others? FYI it is definitely live and there are several bouncers including one in "plain clothes" who creates a path for Tom out of camera. |
|
3,466 posts
|
Post by ceebee on Oct 27, 2023 10:50:48 GMT
Yes, it's in the basket screen and appeared on mine (saying "free shipping will be applied on checkout"). It didn't deduct it though. I've messaged them for a refund on the £4.99 - will let you know how I get on. Am sure it's a system glitch as the screen clearly confirmed the code had worked. Follow up from yesterday - excellent customer service from Theatre Shop. Refund processed with apology sent. Will definitely get my business again in future. |
|
1,475 posts
|
Post by mkb on Oct 27, 2023 12:57:39 GMT
Has this sold already? I’m interested if not! Apologies - this was my first time using the Noticeboard so I wasn't au fait with how it works. Because I could see my post, I thought it had been approved, but it hadn't and that link wasn't visible to anyone else. It has now been approved, so you can now check the details, and DM me if still interested. (Note it's a Spotlight ticket, so restrictions apply as to who is allowed to use it.) UPDATE: Ticket claimed by greatauntedna |
|
|
|
Post by partytentdown on Oct 27, 2023 20:40:57 GMT
If anyone wants to order this before it inevitably sells out there’s a code for free shipping which saves £4.99. Expires 3rd November. Code : FREESHIPPING Because you don’t really want to sit with it in your sweaty hands all night and then drag it all the way home on the tube and have it looking like a dishrag by the time you get there do you… Managed to leave it too late and the online shop has sold out of brochures. If anyone sees them come back into stock please make a post! |
|
|
|
Post by asps2017 on Oct 28, 2023 1:51:13 GMT
Anyone catch the interview with Rachel where she says she has ‘first refusal’ in terms of if asked to cover Nicole in the run?
|
|
5,162 posts
|
Post by Being Alive on Oct 28, 2023 17:22:26 GMT
I sort of figured this was the case anyway.
Also, it sounds like it was going to be more split in the beginning, and that she initially walked away when it was 1 show a week, but they managed to talk her back round.
Really good episode of In The Frame podcast that she's on this week talking about it.
|
|
4,799 posts
|
Post by Mark on Oct 28, 2023 17:48:10 GMT
Anyone catch the interview with Rachel where she says she has ‘first refusal’ in terms of if asked to cover Nicole in the run? Which interview is this please |
|
1,228 posts
|
Post by nash16 on Oct 28, 2023 18:56:46 GMT
Fear not. You are not alone. I think a lot of musical theatre fans have never seen camera work like this in their shows, whereas play goers have seen it for the past 15+ yrs, thus minds being blown. But everything “innovative” in this is actually stolen (mainly from Ivo Van Hove. The filmed-walk-around-building-whilst-singing idea was Ivo’s for his West Side Story not so long ago, for example). That guy playing Joe could sing gobbledygook at the start of Act 2 as no one is listening to what he’s singing, just pointing going “we were just by that pub”. 😂 A lot of (borrowed) Emperor’s New Clothes. Am I alone in thinking this production is overwrought, over-indulgent and frequently incomprehensible to anyone unfamiliar to the original narrative. And as for that tour round the Strand at beginning of Act 2 - all very clever but WHY?? |
|
|
|
Post by danb on Oct 28, 2023 19:20:26 GMT
Fear not. You are not alone. I think a lot of musical theatre fans have never seen camera work like this in their shows, whereas play goers have seen it for the past 15+ yrs, thus minds being blown. But everything “innovative” in this is actually stolen (mainly from Ivo Van Hove. The filmed-walk-around-building-whilst-singing idea was Ivo’s for his West Side Story not so long ago, for example). That guy playing Joe could sing gobbledygook at the start of Act 2 as no one is listening to what he’s singing, just pointing going “we were just by that pub”. 😂 A lot of (borrowed) Emperor’s New Clothes. Am I alone in thinking this production is overwrought, over-indulgent and frequently incomprehensible to anyone unfamiliar to the original narrative. And as for that tour round the Strand at beginning of Act 2 - all very clever but WHY?? That’s fair enough if you only distill/reduce it down to two elements rather than the brilliant marriage of everything that makes it great. How many people going to see this have already experienced Van Hove so see it as pastiche/stolen? |
|
620 posts
|
Post by chernjam on Oct 28, 2023 19:28:31 GMT
I sort of figured this was the case anyway. Also, it sounds like it was going to be more split in the beginning, and that she initially walked away when it was 1 show a week, but they managed to talk her back round. Really good episode of In The Frame podcast that she's on this week talking about it. That's really unfortunate to read. Norma does seem to bring out the Diva out of even the best of actresses. Considering the tickets sold for Nicole vs. Rachel, maybe she should've had a bit more humility and simply brought the best she could to it, (as she has so far) and built some further word of mouth? I mean I wasn't even that aware of Nicole as a "star" (not sorry, not really paying attention to "Pussycat dolls" or any "pop" stuff) until hearing her cover of "Memory" and learning she was an international name. Hadn't even heard of Rachel Tucker until this thread. One of Sunset's flaws has been the need for a star in the lead role. From the sounds of this production, they've been able to accomplish that while also re-inventing the show to make it possible to cast women who might not have the "gravitas" of a Patti LuPone, Glenn Close or Elaine Paige but are "stars" in their own right could make it not just work, but soar. |
|
1,460 posts
|
Post by theatrefan62 on Oct 28, 2023 19:38:17 GMT
I sort of figured this was the case anyway. Also, it sounds like it was going to be more split in the beginning, and that she initially walked away when it was 1 show a week, but they managed to talk her back round. Really good episode of In The Frame podcast that she's on this week talking about it. That's really unfortunate to read. Norma does seem to bring out the Diva out of even the best of actresses. Considering the tickets sold for Nicole vs. Rachel, maybe she should've had a bit more humility and simply brought the best she could to it, (as she has so far) and built some further word of mouth? I mean I wasn't even that aware of Nicole as a "star" (not sorry, not really paying attention to "Pussycat dolls" or any "pop" stuff) until hearing her cover of "Memory" and learning she was an international name. Hadn't even heard of Rachel Tucker until this thread. One of Sunset's flaws has been the need for a star in the lead role. From the sounds of this production, they've been able to accomplish that while also re-inventing the show to make it possible to cast women who might not have the "gravitas" of a Patti LuPone, Glenn Close or Elaine Paige but are "stars" in their own right could make it not just work, but soar. I don't think that's fair. If Rachel was promised more of a sharing role and then dropped to one a week and sidelined, it's understandable she probably didnt think it was worth her time. She has been a leading actress in the west end and on broadway in her own right for many years. It's also a good negotiating tool as they still needed someone with some name recognition for Monday nights. They wouldn't get another star name, but a west end name with a good following would be good. Something very similar happened with Emma Williams and Connie Fisher in the sound of music revival. Emma initially was promised about half the shows, but when they saw how popular HDYSAPLM was they wanted the winner to do all bar one show. So Emma walked away. Sometimes you have to know your own worth. And it's also how these situations are dealt with behind the scenes by producers. |
|
|
|
Post by westendfan1 on Oct 28, 2023 20:08:10 GMT
That guy playing Joe could sing gobbledygook at the start of Act 2 as no one is listening to what he’s singing, just pointing going “we were just by that pub”. 😂 His name is Tom Francis. (I actually agree with your point, by the way, but still found it thrilling to witness.) |
|
520 posts
|
Post by anthony on Oct 28, 2023 21:59:45 GMT
GOOD NEWS! Darth Vader was at Sunset Boulevard this evening. The bad news is that I had the misfortune of sitting in front of him. The breathing… 😭
|
|
913 posts
|
Post by karloscar on Oct 28, 2023 23:13:57 GMT
That guy playing Joe could sing gobbledygook at the start of Act 2 as no one is listening to what he’s singing, just pointing going “we were just by that pub”. 😂 His name is Tom Francis. (I actually agree with your point, by the way, but still found it thrilling to witness.) Well the lyric to Sunset Buuullevard is not Don Black's strongest work by any stretch of the imagination. Most of it is utter drivel to fill the endless five syllable phrases, and having the "bull" as the most prominently stressed part of the title is most unfortunate when it's the Sunset that ought to evoke any meaningful imagery. Just as well nobody's listening. |
|
|
|
Post by max on Oct 29, 2023 9:02:41 GMT
His name is Tom Francis. (I actually agree with your point, by the way, but still found it thrilling to witness.) Well the lyric to Sunset Buuullevard is not Don Black's strongest work by any stretch of the imagination. Most of it is utter drivel to fill the endless five syllable phrases, and having the "bull" as the most prominently stressed part of the title is most unfortunate when it's the Sunset that ought to evoke any meaningful imagery. Just as well nobody's listening. Some places look great with the glow of sunset on them, and soberingly dull in the morning. Joe strips Sunset of the glow he doesn't believe in anymore. "Sunset" gets replaced with (in this order) 'twisting/tempting/headline/jackpot/frenzied/brutal/ruthess/lethal - Boulevard'. "Sunset" isn't the word to evoke meaningful imagery anymore, that's the point. Apart, perhaps, from when Joe says he's been taking the lady's money and "watching her sunset". |
|
1,432 posts
|
Post by BVM on Oct 29, 2023 9:55:00 GMT
Have to say in the post Tim Rice era (aka most of ALW’s career) where the lyrics are endlessly criticised, I think Sunset in general and the title number in particular have excellent lyrics.
Clever, funny, cynical - they really match the restlessness and mood of the song’s melody.
One of the best Act 2 openers in the ALW canon IMHO!
|
|
1,481 posts
|
Post by steve10086 on Oct 29, 2023 11:31:11 GMT
Have to say in the post Tim Rice era (aka most of ALW’s career) where the lyrics are endlessly criticised, I think Sunset in general and the title number in particular have excellent lyrics. Clever, funny, cynical - they really match the restlessness and mood of the song’s melody. One of the best Act 2 openers in the ALW canon IMHO! I don’t have a problem with the title number lyrics, but do actually prefer some of the originals. Good to see them sticking to the legal deal and thanking Amy Powers still in this production. |
|
|
|
Post by iamluisfelipe on Oct 29, 2023 11:35:35 GMT
meta? yes please
|
|
8,131 posts
Member is Online
|
Post by alece10 on Oct 29, 2023 11:39:29 GMT
Can someone explain to an oldie what "meta" means that seems to be used a lot in this thread?
I thought it was the new name for Facebook that no one uses so presume it means something else.
Thanks
|
|
|
|
Post by iamluisfelipe on Oct 29, 2023 11:45:56 GMT
Can someone explain to an oldie what "meta" means that seems to be used a lot in this thread? I thought it was the new name for Facebook that no one uses so presume it means something else. Thanks I may not be the best person to explain this, but I will try. It's called 'meta' when boundaries are crossed, when reality and fiction are mixed, and they make references to each other. For example, having Nicole's photo from her own career on the set, where she's referencing herself, not just the character, is an example of this. So, her going as her own character to a halloween party is a kind of meta moment, to me. Does it make sense? |
|
1,460 posts
|
Post by theatrefan62 on Oct 29, 2023 11:48:46 GMT
Yeah, I'm not sure why it's suddenly become a thing. It's been around for decades but seems to be the new media fad
|
|
913 posts
|
Post by karloscar on Oct 29, 2023 12:04:31 GMT
Well the lyric to Sunset Buuullevard is not Don Black's strongest work by any stretch of the imagination. Most of it is utter drivel to fill the endless five syllable phrases, and having the "bull" as the most prominently stressed part of the title is most unfortunate when it's the Sunset that ought to evoke any meaningful imagery. Just as well nobody's listening. Some places look great with the glow of sunset on them, and soberingly dull in the morning. Joe strips Sunset of the glow he doesn't believe in anymore. "Sunset" gets replaced with (in this order) 'twisting/tempting/headline/jackpot/frenzied/brutal/ruthess/lethal - Boulevard'. "Sunset" isn't the word to evoke meaningful imagery anymore, that's the point. Apart, perhaps, from when Joe says he's been taking the lady's money and "watching her sunset". Yes but even when you replace sunset with whatever adjective the musical stress is still on the 🐂, so that's the only bit you remember. |
|
