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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 14:47:28 GMT
I think the government might well use the fact Ireland quarantines Brits to justify possible risks to the Border - they will play dirty to make sure everything is blamed on the EU.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 14:44:29 GMT
First half was great! Interval now. Bit weird dancing with a mask but people up on their feet! ALW did a speech beforehand, saying how they need more government clarity asap and how important it is to have rhetaee without social distancing. Through I am not sure the goverment can offer clarity on that issue - and also it might be a double edged sword - no distancing might put off people who would go if the seat next to them was empty but not if everyone was cramped in and masks are being removed to eat or drink or simply for people's comfort - by the autumn mask wearing will be fading away if the current lax enforcement continues.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 14:42:32 GMT
If ALW's pilot proves successful, I wonder if other theatre owners or companies will be willing to come aboard for other pilots on venues that are smaller? It would be interesting seeing how a pilot would work in places like The O2. I imagine arenas will be the very last to return - and I can't imagine any socially distanced concerts happening so not sure if trials would be worth it.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 7:56:05 GMT
We are on the same song sheet for your first paragraph. With regards to vaccine, there are people who will not take a vaccine, which is fine, if they want to catch Covid and risk the complications that goes with it, then I have absolutely no problem with that. What people don’t have a right to do is transmit it to other people, who are going about their own law abiding way of life. Agree with that and, presumably, other countries will legislate so that anti vaxxers will face fines, maybe more, to have them comply. Johnson melts into a puddle at the thought of telling people to do something for the common good, however, so the chances of it happening here are, sadly, remote. I've read no one quite knows if the ECHR will accept compulsory vaccination for adults or rule it a breach of human rights which will complicate things in Europe.
Remember the UK has not even made the MMR compulsory for Children so it be a bit of a surprise if they do it for the adult public.
Won't be the only country through - the anti vax movement in the UK is relatively weak and doesn't have the political support it has in some countries - look in America where some are scared of anti - vaxers.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 22:47:34 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 21:46:36 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 21:36:07 GMT
It is better to control the low infection rate now and keep it that way than let it blow up again, which it will and trying to control it, when; it is out of control, as it was 2 months ago. Get the armed forces in to hand out fines, if necessary and that includes public transport as well. And if Sainsbury’s aren’t going to help enforce the law, I won’t be shopping there. The government have dillied about masks for too long so I doubt the Army are going to ever going to patrol supermarkets. Usage on trains is pretty good so not needed there.
The government should give the police the power to fine shops but USDAW are reluctant to allow their staff to be made effective police officers - not that many shops employ trained security guards.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 19:01:18 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 18:46:53 GMT
Watching Emmerdale and it seems the filming might be moving from using a 2m - 1m - even through current guidance technically still requires 2m unless in some circumstance (Or with testing but that has only been in a week.)
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 16:40:53 GMT
I thought more than two households can't sit at one table - As the aides are there that is four households breaking the 1m plus rule.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 16:38:26 GMT
Sainsbury's should enforce it with some way to identitfy those exempt - too many people are naive enough to think most people will comply - a ride on a London bus will tell you otherwise.
Honestly no one is following every rule.
Far too many people aren't even paying attention to basic distancing, never mind face coverings. I think it's partly a misguided perception that the danger is now passed - it REALLY isn't, although the infection rates have gone down it wouldn't take much for them to begin to rise again - and partly naivety, and partly just plain selfishness: masks are more about protecting other people than about protecting yourself, so people simply can't be bothered.
The weeks of the government and press telling people they were useless doesn't help at all.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 16:31:41 GMT
It will be interesting to see if they get a vaccine how they prioritize who gets it after the front-line health workers. On Loose Womwn yesterday we had Janet Street Porter representing the over 70's, Kelle Bryan who is immune surpressed and BAME and Coleen Nolan who is a larger woman. So all three/four characteristics could be at threat. I think we agree that healthcare front line/police should be first then those at most risk ( the ones who were told to shelter), other frontline workers like delivery drivers/shop staff are done in roughly that order. But where do you go then, age, gender,race, size, milder underlying conditions. I'm nearly 50 and overweight so am I more at risk than a younger fitter BAME person who may not be able to WFH as much as me for example. The best suggestion I heard from the Loose Women was you start with the oldest and work back after you've done the key/at risk. But if a son or daughter took their parent/parents to be immunized surely it would make sense yo do all at once. Will the government risk annoying many less enlightened people by offering it to BAME people earlier as a blanket policy - it doesn't feel like the government would want to allow the far right something to campaign on.
I suspect it will go
1. Shielding 2. Health workers most at risk
3. Other health conditions.
4. 65+
5. Less at risk workers
6. 50-64 7. Everyone else.
As immune suppressed people usually get the flu jab but being overweight doesn't Kelle will get it first I imagine.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 16:26:47 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 16:23:16 GMT
sf Really? My experience of Covid is that it has brought out the best in people far more than the worst. There are more people around my way volunteering to help people than there are needing to be helped; I've met loads and loads of neighbours I've never even seen before through various mutual support groups, collections for food banks, etc. At the start of lockdown and just before, strangers were chatting on the street and in shops and being kind to each other like I've never seen before. I've absolutely hated the whole coronavirus thing and I'm still having sleepless nights about the long-term impact it's going to have on things like theatre and my employment prospects, but aspects of it have been exceptionally moving. Though not the mawkish clapping thing, I hated that. Varies by area and people you come into contact with.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 16:20:21 GMT
Sainsbury's should enforce it with some way to identitfy those exempt - too many people are naive enough to think most people will comply - a ride on a London bus will tell you otherwise.
Honestly no one is following every rule.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 11:07:30 GMT
My mum said she was the only customer in the supermarket this morning wearing a mask - it's clear people are not going to comply in two days time and I am not sure many shops will enforce it. I found that yesterday. I didn't enjoy wearing the mask but it's really invalidating when you make the effort to comply and others don't, and even then it's hardly a lot of effort to stick a mask on! I genuinely don't know how they're going to enforce this. So many people will sadly try to exploit the system and say they are exempt. And also what's to stop people wearing the mask into the shop and then taking it off once inside? I know big supermarkets have security staff but I really worry about the smaller shops. Most of the smaller independent shops near me have a council provided sign saying what the customer limit is and nothing else- very few screens or sanitizer and not even many with staff wearing masks.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 9:56:06 GMT
My mum said she was the only customer in the supermarket this morning wearing a mask - it's clear people are not going to comply in two days time and I am not sure many shops will enforce it.
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Jul 22, 2020 9:43:52 GMT
Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 9:43:52 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 9:40:37 GMT
A summary of the situation in Germany.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 22, 2020 9:27:45 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 21, 2020 16:29:39 GMT
Looking at the Debate on the BBC today Tory backbenchers seem opposed to scrapping shows for being un PC and also coded attacks on non mainstream projects and casting - it was quite clear what type of programmes they see as not being in popular in their seat.
It feels like they will be similarly critical towards theatre due to the coronavirus bailouts being seen as requiring more mainstream theatr.
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Jul 21, 2020 15:41:21 GMT
Post by basdfg on Jul 21, 2020 15:41:21 GMT
Universities are going to be wrecked by Brexit - reduction in RU students coinciding with Cornovirus and likely banning of Chinese Students ~ EU not RU.
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Jul 21, 2020 14:01:10 GMT
Post by basdfg on Jul 21, 2020 14:01:10 GMT
Universities are going to be wrecked by Brexit - reduction in RU students coinciding with Cornovirus and likely banning of Chinese Students
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Post by basdfg on Jul 20, 2020 22:20:24 GMT
That is surely only financially viable in a minority of situations. The capacity looks to be under 50%.
It mostly be used for events where tickets are free or where costs are low enough to make it work.
Fundamentally the demands of ALW, Mackintosh and the rest for a confirmed date without SD cannot be given by the government. No government can offer that promise- in the continent it's all aspiration with things subject to change depending on the virus. No one knows the future. Korea has so many track and trace measures a lot of people in the UK would oppose.
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Jul 20, 2020 20:51:19 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 20, 2020 19:06:01 GMT
Very impressed with Lloyd Webber on BBC news tonight. That man will not stop until he can get his theatres reopen. Bravo! Through equally what works for his theatres won't financially work everywhere- He seems to not be against willing to risk losing money.
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Jul 20, 2020 18:54:28 GMT
Post by basdfg on Jul 20, 2020 18:54:28 GMT
No-Deal is primarily focused on the EU, truth is as this Tweet demonstrates we need to negotiate and agree FTA’s with every trading nation over the next 5 months. At the moment it looks like we not only leave the EU but we leave behind all our trading partners if not agreed by year end and any time spent on WTO terms will negate any benefits in the short term and any business lost is unlikely to be regained as changing suppliers is a long and complex process which many of our trading partners have started to ensure continuity of supply without tariffs and import complexities. If we leave the EU without a Deal it will also be worse than the much touted Australian Deal as Australia have a “mutual recognition agreement” which has been set up to facilitate trade in industrial products by reducing technical barriers which we won’t have. And not just the EU. 3.6% of British goods go to China but that is going to get reduced or even eliminated in the coming months.
It's a two prong problem as the higher education sector is being reduced with the goverment hoping to increase the % 18-21 year olds working in manfacturing while equally manfacturing output might be being reducee.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 20, 2020 18:39:23 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 20, 2020 18:11:29 GMT
A huge blow to the cinema industry. Christopher Nolan's Tenet has been delayed indefinately. Being the only blockbuster this side of November I have no idea what they'll do until then: Just show old films - nostalgia can be profitable.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 20, 2020 17:43:32 GMT
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