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Post by basdfg on Jul 25, 2020 11:05:00 GMT
Nearly everyone wearing masks in Sainsbury's this morning; out of fifty or so there were only two without. All the staff were wearing masks as well. Dad just got back from a large Tesco and Mask Wearing rates were much better than the numbers he saw yesterday in Smaller shops.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 22:35:53 GMT
France is re-closing it's border with Spain.
No, it's not. The French government is advising its citizens not to travel to Catalonia. The border remains open. Not according my Iberian friends. They all think it's been closed.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 22:32:27 GMT
The news from Spain is futher going to risk the survival of the airlines needed for city breaks to london to be viable for the many next year Do you ever post anything positive? Positivity has sadly caused me too many lows.
But maybe flight numbers are high enough for elsewhere losing some will not tip them over the edge.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 22:29:28 GMT
The news from Spain is further going to damage airlines futures- needed for London to bounce back next year,
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 22:24:06 GMT
France is re-closing it's border with Spain.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 22:14:12 GMT
I think phasing in would be good allowing venues to learn form eachother as to what works. To be honest I am impressed with the Lloyd Webber initiatives. He has obviously read our (my) posts with the implementing of self cleaning handles and improved toilet facilities etc. Yes he had to spend dosh and no he won’t recoup til he can have full theatres but he wasn’t sitting on his hands moaning ( or at least he was on the phone ordering other people about) . I know all the problems, I do really understand but I just don't get why the NT can’t put on something - outside or inside with distancing in that massive sarcophagus of a building, They have loads of toilets, ways in and out that can be guided, lots of staff available, poor sods now unemployed, talent already booked and ready to go and an audience of tourists and regulars both willing and cooperative. Well that’s me ranted out for this evening. I wonder if they fear part opening would affect governmental financial support - but can't survive without as much of a bailout as possible.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 22:09:11 GMT
The culture war is evident through - one figure where it is very stark is views on Meghan Duhcess of Suffolk. Liabilty - 51 Asset -24 But broken down people in London and 2016 remain voters only think she is a liability 42/41-38/37 while 18 -24 year olds (By 37-31) and Labour voters (42-37) think she is an asset. And of course it is very stark around BLM. 47-18 opposition from tory voters and 47 -22 opposition from leave voters but 71-10 support from Labour voters, 62-12 from Lib Dems and 65-12 from Remain voters. 61% of tory voters think the protests should never go ahead not even after the virus but only 14% of labour voters think it - but overall not go ahead gets the pluarity. Is that the same poll that the Mirror ran a headline about saying that 38% thought Harry a liability (I.e. the majority do not) while ignoring the staggering 80% who think Andrew is a liability? Lies, damn lies, and statistics! Through everyone knows Andrew is - Harry wasn't but is now. The mirror is stuck between not being racist but still being sued.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 18:22:36 GMT
It's difficult really, one lady got on the bus I was on yesterday and immediately said very loudly that she had asthma and was unable to wear a mask, when she sat down another lady asked why she had said it so loudly and we discovered that she had already been shouted at and had something thrown at her for not wearing a mask. She was on her way to a friend's house who was going to print out an exemption thing for her to wear as she'd been so frightened. For every person with a genuine problem there are many who are either selfish/arrogant or who don't believe the masks make a difference but this is why I refuse to judge - and why many people I know have said they wouldn't be enforcing it if they worked in retail. The whole situation is horrible, I just hope they can find a vaccine or at least some treatment that would mean a course of antibiotics would do the trick sooner rather than later Non enforcement (With self citing a medical condition enough to be exempt) is making bus drivers look like a tad hypocritical- threatened a strike over their safety but now they behind the screen they do not have the same desire for their passengers by helping make things safer for them - bus drivers are more used to having to turn people away than others so I think they must starting challenging - those who can't wear them at more at risk if they caught it so the buggers refusing for arrogance need telling.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 16:22:38 GMT
My dad has just come back from shopping in Iceland and Tesco - he said at least 8 customers had no masks in Iceland and at least three in Tesco. The Tesco has a security guard on the door not saying anything to people as they stroll in mask-less. There were about 30 customers in Iceland and 10 in Tesco.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 16:12:40 GMT
I'm not really sure that posting lots of tweets on here, particularly from people who have selective views, advances the "discussion" very much, which is supposed to be the point of a discussion board. If I want to read lots of tweets from people with entrenched views, I can go to Twitter for that. I'd rather engage with individuals here. What are your views? Does your retweeting of Goodwin imply approval, disagreement, or just an opportunity to encourage people to argue? Just to show his latest 'argument' and to see people's views to it. I haven't made my mind up on what I believe.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 15:40:53 GMT
The details inside show the stark divide. But given that most people will never click into the details, the original tweet was a masterpiece in selective use of data which has now been liked nearly 4000 times and retweeted nearly 1500 times. There are culture warriors on both sides of the divide, they all need to be called out when they use facts selectively to shore up their position.
This is his latest.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 15:37:48 GMT
There is, however, a big difference between "censoring" shows and just deciding not to do them. Through even then is a desire for less pc projects - more so on TV.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 15:02:29 GMT
Going by the You Gov polling on removing statutes I suspect the public would be starkly divided on issues like Censoring offensive musicals and colour-blind casting historical roles.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 14:50:48 GMT
Found it! docs.cdn.yougov.com/wte7yyb35l/SunOnSunday_Results_200716.pdf. - not sure why it is not indexed on the main YouGov page. And what do you know, the figures on taking the knee are 37% appropriate, 37% inappropriate, 25% not sure On footballers having BLM on their shirts: 43% appropriate, 37% inappropriate, 20% not sure. I don’t have time to look through all the other claims right now but just that little bit suggests selective use of data at best, if not downright misleading. The details inside show the stark divide.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 14:50:10 GMT
The culture war is evident through - one figure where it is very stark is views on Meghan Duhcess of Suffolk.
Liabilty - 51 Asset -24
But broken down people in London and 2016 remain voters only think she is a liability 42/41-38/37 while 18 -24 year olds (By 37-31) and Labour voters (42-37) think she is an asset.
And of course it is very stark around BLM. 47-18 opposition from tory voters and 47 -22 opposition from leave voters but 71-10 support from Labour voters, 62-12 from Lib Dems and 65-12 from Remain voters.
61% of tory voters think the protests should never go ahead not even after the virus but only 14% of labour voters think it - but overall not go ahead gets the pluarity.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 10:49:19 GMT
My mum said the guard in tesco this morning made no attempt to even advise people to wear a mask and let several walk right past him unmasked. Comparable to smoking? Try walking passed him chuffing on a lit pipe It's like guards are scared.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 10:37:00 GMT
My mum said the guard in tesco this morning made no attempt to even advise people to wear a mask and let several walk right past him unmasked.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 9:36:09 GMT
Daily Covid deaths in Spain are still in single figures and not increasing; the Spanish govt is being very vigilant about honing in on clusters of cases where they occur. Scare headlines in tabloids are rarely accurate. Spain changed the way it counts deaths a while back to a system which would be quite slow at picking up a surge.
Yesterday Spain had 2,615 cases which is very high.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 9:15:35 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 24, 2020 9:08:58 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 22:10:03 GMT
Yet the numbers wearing them only reaches that % on trains and not on buses or in shops. Four buses today, all long journeys and in total only 5 people not wearing masks - fairly even split as 3 male/2 female and 3 mid to late 20's/2 mid to late 40's. As I was upstairs coming back I was also being nosy as other buses went by and the vast majority were wearing masks, certainly in such numbers that the ones who weren't really stood out Not the case here in east london - 50/50 on the buses - no noticeable age or ethnicity patten to wearing/not wearing
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 20:12:34 GMT
Also remember Labour are not going to whole heartly oppose no deal due to the political risks of being seen to be too pro European and no chance of the government having to change course if it's what they decide
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 20:10:28 GMT
Yet the numbers wearing them only reaches that % on trains and not on buses or in shops.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 19:53:50 GMT
I imagine arenas will be the very last to return - and I can't imagine any socially distanced concerts happening so not sure if trials would be worth it. You've got to have trials to test whether measures can work like we've seen with the Palladium and also sports venues. Negativity doesn't solve issues, creativity does. I think with arenas through the finances mean anything commercial non - sd would not be worth it.
It might be more viable if the BBC or ITV filmed arena shows to air and the audience can be trailed as part of it.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 19:37:56 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 19:37:22 GMT
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 19:04:05 GMT
All goos but Sadly I can't agree with the sentiment entirely - I don't think it is for the best for long away dates be strong targets when the pandemic is unpredictable and so many people in the country think it is already all over. They would be the temptation to allow un needed risks to be taken to avoid breaking the target even if it would increase the risk of infection beyond a reasonable level.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 16:25:00 GMT
Cases up a bit today - hopefully just more testing of the barely or non symptomatic rather than new clusters - but with poor enforcement of so many measures i am finding it hard to be positive.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 15:44:41 GMT
The Journalist Benjamin Butterworth has put on Instagram that no temperature checking happened while he flew with BA. I’m not aware of passenger temperature checks but I can tell you all crew are temperature checked on entering work and there’s a threshold for us to operate. Obviously he can't see crew testing but a lot of people seem to think passengers are being temperature tested and that is used to justify full planes - I certainly did.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 23, 2020 14:58:32 GMT
The Journalist Benjamin Butterworth has put on Instagram that no temperature checking happened while he flew with BA.
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