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Post by Latecomer on Jan 19, 2020 19:04:08 GMT
I think the Royal family is an odd one these days. Hands up the people who think that the royals are inherently better than us and ACTUALLY should be ruling over us? Literally in charge, what they say goes no questions asked? Ok, so no-one then. So why do we have a royal family? Tradition? To greet other head’s of state/royals? To “bring in money to the country”? To have someone we can wheel out when a disaster happens so we have someone to “represent” something? I think Charles III the play hit the nail on the head really....there is a huge dichotomy at the heart of the whole thing...they have huge power but only if the agree not to use it...and if they did use it we wouldn’t like it. So what are they? PR? If that’s the case we keep looking as a nation as to whether they “give” us enough ....money wise and entertainment wise. Royal weddings, baby pictures, smiles, access...we are doing the mental sums all the time as to worth.
I think Harry and Meghan are doing the only sensible thing they could do....get as far away from a toxic situation where they can’t win (soap operas always have sad bits or they are boring!) ....Princess Anne had the right idea....perhaps they could all have a pact to make all the children commoners and stop being royal!
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Post by Latecomer on Jan 10, 2020 18:21:45 GMT
The milk rota is for lightweights....now the fridge CLEANING rota is another matter entirely!
I am lucky to have a name staring with T and the power of the alphabet!!!!
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Post by Latecomer on Jan 5, 2020 20:24:57 GMT
Enjoyed Bancroft....not sure that’s the right word!!! Had forgotten what happened in last series but a quick google sorted that and we were away!  Enjoyed Dracula but thought the last part didn’t really work. |
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Post by Latecomer on Jan 2, 2020 22:37:35 GMT
Watched Derry Girls on Bake off and then episode 1 of Dracula. Rather regretting the order I watched them in, now it’s time to go to sleep!!!!
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 26, 2019 22:21:48 GMT
So far so good. Managing to grit teeth whenever a cliche headline is thrown into conversation with careless abandon and no proof whatsoever. Have discovered the hard way over the last few months that facts do not matter and it’s no use being well informed as everyone thinks all politicians are as bad as each other and they all lie. Have perfected the quizzical eyebrow raise and am mentally trying to forgive people who have been gaslighted for years by the press. May have been heard muttering “the young won’t forgive you” in dark corners....
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 26, 2019 22:13:27 GMT
Just watched Paddington 2 on TV. Best thing on tv by far this christmas and the song from Follies at the end was a real treat. The ending had us in floods of tears....we are such softies! |
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 24, 2019 13:11:55 GMT
I can tell you what my last 3 days have been like and that's hell because i have the norovirus and it's genuinely the worst thing i'vem experienced and had to have 999 out twice. Apparently it was also causing me to have panic attacks as well on top of it and making it all worse. Starting to feel a bit better this morning so hopefully it eases of in time for Xmas Day. Poor you! Hope you are better soon. |
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 22, 2019 12:48:46 GMT
A few of those £15 gems available early doors this morning for The Visit Thanks for this! |
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 21, 2019 20:55:21 GMT
Happy Christmas everyone! Thanks to the admins for doing the thankless task of sorting us out! x See you all in 2020! x |
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 21, 2019 9:59:25 GMT
And not quite sure about posts...I think my response to illegal activities that caused this is as “proper” as the next persons and I sort of object to being told to “get over it fella” all the time.
I claim the right to be permanently pissed off about how Brexit was achieved and refuse to acknowledge it’s validity. If “people” were so sure it was the will of the people they would be prepared to test the theory. Legally. That they won’t have a referendum on the actual deal vs remain speaks volumes (and don’t give me that “we’ve already had a referendum” - yes, an illegal one)
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 21, 2019 9:49:20 GMT
almost ten years ago now : Where Blair and Brown went wrong is in not addressing the issue head on, preferring to sweep it under the carpet as long as they still voted Labour. From the start, the the facts behind immigration and such should have been out front and centre, countering and exposing the lies of the right. In not doing that, it allowed them to weaponise these issues. Instead, now these voters will only have these ideas exposed via their future suffering. It could have been avoided if it had been addressed when needed. Similarly Brown was not brave enough to challenge austerity as a concept after the banking crisis. It didn’t work after the Wall Street Crash and hasn’t worked this time either. The response would have been to borrow to invest. Brown recently said he would have liked to carry out economic reform like Corbyn has been suggesting but didn’t think the public would believe it would work. That was, as with immigration, because Labour had spent years following Tory spending plans and harping on about balancing the books. It takes years to gaslight a nation but we managed it on both immigration and spending. The Tories got away with Quantitative Easing as no-one understands that they just printed loads more money...literally. Clever really as this was never talked about....just “tightening belts” and “we are all in it together”....which we can understand from our own budgeting. |
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 20, 2019 19:58:08 GMT
It isn’t an argument. It’s the law. I cannot understand and never will how we can refer to this as “the will of the people” when it wasn’t a legal referendum. I don’t care what you say or how you phrase it. It will still be illegal in years to come. It is a fact. Not an opinion or an argument. It’s like the earth is round not flat. However, perhaps we now no longer live in a democracy. Don’t see how we can ever lecture other countries unless we clear this up. I know...shut up, move on. Doesn’t make it right. It's gone fella, get over it I wonder how many people will never get over it. I will be happy again and accept that life goes on but I will NEVER fail to shout that this is wrong and illegal. It’s not that I can’t bear to leave the EU (not that happy about it but I do believe in democracy) it’s the cheating and law breaking I hate so much. We claim to be a Great country ...how great is a country that cannot even claim that the vote that decided it’s future is legal? And I’m pretty sure there’s list somewhere of all the things people have been told to “get over” in years gone by that strong people have not.....(Women’s vote, apartheid, slavery....) Or do you prefer a corrupt benign dictatorship? |
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 20, 2019 18:43:22 GMT
Still find it incredible that we are carrying out the result of what was essentially an illegal referendum. If it had been binding it would have been challenged in court and the overspending (proved already to be illegal) would have made the result unsafe. I harp on about it but it is and always will be ILLEGAL. I believe in democracy but this isn’t it. If we can just buy results by overspending and then paying the fines then we’re done....the cheats will just add the fines to their expenses. Police investigation on going....but plough on. Despite the fact that it has not been the will of the people for the last year. People so sick of it that they just want to “get it done” like a trip to the dentist. Those sunlit uplands seem a long way away..... Time to move on now fella. We lost that argument, not enough people voted for Jeremy and so we have a right wing Brexit. It isn’t an argument. It’s the law. I cannot understand and never will how we can refer to this as “the will of the people” when it wasn’t a legal referendum. I don’t care what you say or how you phrase it. It will still be illegal in years to come. It is a fact. Not an opinion or an argument. It’s like the earth is round not flat. However, perhaps we now no longer live in a democracy. Don’t see how we can ever lecture other countries unless we clear this up. I know...shut up, move on. Doesn’t make it right. |
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 20, 2019 17:07:42 GMT
Still find it incredible that we are carrying out the result of what was essentially an illegal referendum. If it had been binding it would have been challenged in court and the overspending (proved already to be illegal) would have made the result unsafe.
I harp on about it but it is and always will be ILLEGAL. I believe in democracy but this isn’t it. If we can just buy results by overspending and then paying the fines then we’re done....the cheats will just add the fines to their expenses.
Police investigation on going....but plough on. Despite the fact that it has not been the will of the people for the last year. People so sick of it that they just want to “get it done” like a trip to the dentist. Those sunlit uplands seem a long way away.....
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 19, 2019 19:21:08 GMT
This thread has made me chuckle!!!! Like the writer of the play didn’t know what they were doing......have a look back at the thread and then tell me it hasn’t provoked discussion and made some of you consider how you feel. I mean there’s a lot of indignation in there too but....
Sometimes life is too cosy and tidy and predictable.
I found this uncomfortable at times but it has stayed with me and it’s one of those plays that I think is cleverer the more I think about it!
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 19, 2019 18:53:08 GMT
Oh and I wouldn’t bother telling people my plans...just offer a couple of headline pledges, repeat them endlessly and then actually do the stuff I fancy when I get in....
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 19, 2019 18:49:36 GMT
I don’t know why there is so much attention on Labour. Tories are going to bring in voter ID, change boundaries, keep the right wing press. Plus Scotland has gone to the SNP, so realistically Labour cannot win.
James O’Brien had something when he said Labour tried to section electorate into Victim, Villain, Saviour. And there are too many people just content to poddle on not really bothering about homeless/ those on universal credit/ wind rush etc etc. They just watch TV and have an ok life and are not really bothered by social issues.
Daughter two has joined Acorn Community Union. I think we may have to do politics on a different model. The young and people like Extinction Rebellion will increasingly do politics routed in direct action.
Best suggestion I saw was every Labour constituency office where they have lost an MP should be opened up as an advisory centre by Labour helping local community (and paid for by Labour). Get out there...with the people.
My next Manifesto would include things that ordinary people find important on a totally practical level....libraries, cash points, post offices, banks not allowed to closed and, my favourite, free subscription for EVERY pub to all sports channels (sky, BT sport etc etc) and in return they agree to run 1 other community event a week out of hours (book club, knitting club, keep fit, community get together) Towns need life and events and places to meet.
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 15, 2019 12:55:31 GMT
{Spoiler - click to view}
The fact that people feel threatened by the ending speaks volumes. Why do you feel aggressive about being asked to see something from someone else’s perspective? I was the first up on stage and I thought even then the play was clever...the actors could not be seen behind the lights at the very back but as I started to get a little “how long is this going to go on, I feel a bit of an idiot here” I started to look at the people choosing not to move...and I drifted into thinking “why?” Were they annoyed at being manipulated? had they mobility problems? Did they not get it? I think some people do hate being made to confront problems (I’m not saying this was the reason by the way). I readily admit I am racist (it’s hard not to be!) but so many people claim they are not, with righteous indignation.
I am also amused by the people saying the first bit of the play was great....! And I thought so too...clever.
And I agree with person earlier in the thread that people almost spontaneously talked to each other afterwards....I was even spoken to by a stranger when discussing he play with my friend going down the street who apologised afterwards for adding her opinion but said she HAD to say it to someone. |
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 13, 2019 9:17:50 GMT
Let me explain my positive reaction. There was much about this play that was ok or boring or a bit annoying but it contained one of those rare moments where you suddenly work out what the hell is happening ...sort of BOOM! You know the one....the moment that makes the whole play worth it.
So don’t read anything about it.
Nothing.
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 13, 2019 8:39:17 GMT
I think the bullies have realised there are other bullies out there that agree with them and that if they all vote together they will get their way.
I suggest that we do what always works with bullies - stand up to them. Keep calling out lies. I am going to see how I can volunteer in some small way, or send financial support to a charity on a regular basis to counter the effects that this will cause on the most helpless. I am going to keep being a member of the Labour Party.
And let’s hope that in the end the illegality catches up with those who caused all this and lands them in jail, where they belong.
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 12, 2019 22:34:43 GMT
My back up plan is that Johnson is soooo treacherous and two faced that when faced with a win (if it happens) and having to actually do the deal he decides it’s all too difficult and cancels the whole thing for the good of the country. Wouldn’t put anything past him on past record. Treachery is his middle name. And I refuse to be downhearted no matter what happens. At some point we win as the young ones are the best and they know it. Tell me one good idea the Tories have come up with in this campaign....even Brexit seems to have evolved into something that just has to be done as quickly as possible so we can “move on”....at what point did it stop being the sunny uplands? I stand by my comments....Johnson has complete freedom to do what he wants. So is he one nation or not? Will he extend transition? The ERG can not have the leverage as if his majority is so big he can ignore them. Softer Brexit? |
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 12, 2019 21:20:32 GMT
My back up plan is that Johnson is soooo treacherous and two faced that when faced with a win (if it happens) and having to actually do the deal he decides it’s all too difficult and cancels the whole thing for the good of the country. Wouldn’t put anything past him on past record. Treachery is his middle name.
And I refuse to be downhearted no matter what happens. At some point we win as the young ones are the best and they know it.
Tell me one good idea the Tories have come up with in this campaign....even Brexit seems to have evolved into something that just has to be done as quickly as possible so we can “move on”....at what point did it stop being the sunny uplands?
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 12, 2019 20:33:42 GMT
Strange things happening to the £....someone got hold of an exit poll? Shot up from negative territory at 8pm...
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 12, 2019 20:31:09 GMT
I think most people truly underestimate the amount of wealthy people who just flat out refuse to pay any tax, like ANY tax whatsoever! That is why the Tories kept lowering taxes for the wealthy in hope that if it's lower they may pay SOMETHING. They owe so much it is literally cheaper for them to keep endless court cases running than pay what is owed. It is like a game to them, they love it. And that's not even to mention the amount of corporations who do the same. That is where the money is going to come from. Except sadly it isn’t, because they’re either moving (or have already moved) their funds. Without those people to pick on, who will get fleeced next? Yup, you and me. Anyone who has a job. You may not mind your taxes going up (substantially), but you’ll find quite a few of us do care rather a lot about potentially going into negative equity. About pension funds crashing in value. About the risk to our currency. About investors turning their back on the country in future because our debt levels make us a very bad risk indeed. All this and more are clear risks of a Corbyn government, flagged by experts in their field. Might sound like a bright future to you. Doesn’t to me, or many other Tory voters. Hmmm...so Johnson crashing us out of Europe or at the very best agreeing a bare-bones deal which will crash the economy by 6-7% is good? Open your eyes....The Conservatives have already caused huge damage to the economy and the £. They do not deserve to be called a fiscal success as they aren’t. Labour will borrow when borrowing is cheap to invest and that will create growth....etc etc. Austerity is and always was a choice that does not work. And leaving Europe without staying in the customs union and as near as possible the single market is madness. |
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 12, 2019 20:26:57 GMT
Rumours are Johnson is in trouble, allegedly a surge in tactical voting by Lib Dem supporters is putting his seat at risk. Couldn’t happen to a nicer person and would take this as a win whatever else happens. If you live in Uxbridge your vote can really make a difference if you haven’t voted already. Daughter lives there. Every door knocked by Labour, she is out in the rain checking those recorded as Labour have voted. So proud, even if Johnson keeps his seat! |
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