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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 9:47:17 GMT
But also for balance Marianne Elliott won for an artistically daring experiment in musical theatre, so it's not just the CHF tween fans of the world that are voting (and that MIss Patti won as well proves the Queen vote is alive and well in theatre). That's all absolutely true. And, away from all the social media/stage door fluff, I actually thought that Carrie Hope Fletcher did give a better performance than Rosalie Craig in all honesty so as much as her win is probably attributed to her fanbase, I can't say that I don't disagree with it either. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 4, 2019 10:01:15 GMT
But also for balance Marianne Elliott won for an artistically daring experiment in musical theatre, so it's not just the CHF tween fans of the world that are voting (and that MIss Patti won as well proves the Queen vote is alive and well in theatre). That's all absolutely true. And, away from all the social media/stage door fluff, I actually thought that Carrie Hope Fletcher did give a better performance than Rosalie Craig in all honesty so as much as her win is probably attributed to her fanbase, I can't say that I don't disagree with it either. Totally disagree. Carries performance was like being smacked in the gob with a housebrick compared to Rosalie’s. No nuance, no substance, just very loud singing and shouty acting. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 10:04:17 GMT
That's all absolutely true. And, away from all the social media/stage door fluff, I actually thought that Carrie Hope Fletcher did give a better performance than Rosalie Craig in all honesty so as much as her win is probably attributed to her fanbase, I can't say that I don't disagree with it either. Totally disagree. Carries performance was like being smacked in the gob with a housebrick compared to Rosalie’s. No nuance, no substance, just very loud singing and shouty acting. But the way she carried off that frizzy perm without laughing was worth an award. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 11:29:29 GMT
How can things like this not be considered in 2019? Outrageous. Apparently if she had won the award she was nominated for they would have brought the microphone down to her as she wouldn't have been able to get onto the stage. They have now apologised. Also well done to Don Warrington who I presume arrived with Nickie Miles-Wildin (they were both nominated for Death of a Salesman at the Royal Exchange) and refused to go down the red carpet as it wasn't accessible to her. |
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Post by stuartmcd on Mar 4, 2019 12:00:05 GMT
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Post by andrew on Mar 4, 2019 12:27:42 GMT
I wasn't really impressed by Patti's performance in Company but she definitely deserves an award for acting like she cares that she won this.
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Post by partytentdown on Mar 4, 2019 12:58:11 GMT
How can things like this not be considered in 2019? Outrageous. Apparently if she had won the award she was nominated for they would have brought the microphone down to her as she wouldn't have been able to get onto the stage. They have now apologised. Also well done to Don Warrington who I presume arrived with Nickie Miles-Wildin (they were both nominated for Death of a Salesman at the Royal Exchange) and refused to go down the red carpet as it wasn't accessible to her. But presumably they know well in advance who's won each award. |
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Post by nash16 on Mar 4, 2019 13:15:07 GMT
Didn’t realise so many people had made it to the regions to see the madness of George III 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Can you imagine if all the Sherlock fans had actually been up to Nottingham? They'd have sold out. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 13:33:56 GMT
Outrageous. Apparently if she had won the award she was nominated for they would have brought the microphone down to her as she wouldn't have been able to get onto the stage. They have now apologised. Also well done to Don Warrington who I presume arrived with Nickie Miles-Wildin (they were both nominated for Death of a Salesman at the Royal Exchange) and refused to go down the red carpet as it wasn't accessible to her. But presumably they know well in advance who's won each award. Irregardless, she was unable to enter the venue as a nominee via the red carpet and had to go in a side entrance. The point being made is that no nominee (or attendee) should be sidelined due to access requirements. |
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 4, 2019 13:40:36 GMT
Didn’t realise so many people had made it to the regions to see the madness of George III 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Can you imagine if all the Sherlock fans had actually been up to Nottingham? They'd have sold out. They did sell out! |
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Post by partytentdown on Mar 4, 2019 13:45:36 GMT
But presumably they know well in advance who's won each award. Irregardless, she was unable to enter the venue as a nominee via the red carpet and had to go in a side entrance. The point being made is that no nominee (or attendee) should be sidelined due to access requirements. Oh I totally agree it's awful and agree she shouldn't have had to use a side entrance, I imagine the organisers didn't think beyond how wheelchair users usually get in to the theatre. But presumably if they'd known she was going to win they would have made more of an effort to find a way to get her on stage. You'd think this wouldn't really be a problem these days! |
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Post by nash16 on Mar 4, 2019 14:45:27 GMT
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Can you imagine if all the Sherlock fans had actually been up to Nottingham? They'd have sold out. They did sell out! 74% capacity over the run. |
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Post by alece10 on Mar 4, 2019 16:57:14 GMT
Thought I would put down a few thoughts about last nights ceremony.
Overall a great evening. The WOS award ceremony is certainly very slick these days compared with the old days when Terri Paddock used to hand out the awards and the projections always broke and everyone just muddled through the evening.
The funny thing is this was a theatre event where everyone is from an industry where one of the most important things is getting the show up on time, and yet when its their own evening they are the worst. 15 minutes before curtain up there are about 6 people in the stalls myself and friend included and everyone wanders in just after 7 so it was never going to start on time. Same thing always happens at press nights I find.
Great orchestra conducted by Alex Parker and some really good musical moments. The opening Sondheim tribute was wonderful including songs from Hannah Waddingham and Janie Dee. They were joined by a choir of children who were adorable - our future MT talent.
Didn't really enjoy the songs from Heathers, too much screaming and shouting and similar with the number from Six - but maybe its an age thing as both got a good response from the audience. There was a lovely intro to Act 2 with a tribute to The Lion King celebrating 20 years and some of the cast performing on stage and in the aisles, but the highlight for me was Rachel Tucker performing "Me and the sky" - wonderful. Oh and the cast of Spring Awakening did a great performance although its an odd song and odd musical.
The hosts were Vicky Vox and Kobna Holdbrook-Smith. This is the first time I have seen Vicky and she was both hilarious and outrageous. Kobna, on the other hand was out of his depth and just spent the evening laughing at Vicky.
The highlight was the tirade of abuse from Vicky when she noticed someone filming CHF's acceptance speech. At the end she said "you are lucky Patti didn't see it". She also told off someone in the Hamilton cast for filming later in the evening.
As for the awards the results were pretty predictable with whoever has the biggest fan base winning.
The exception to this was Patti LuPone winning best supporting actress over Hamilton and Heathers. A well deserved win and a standing ovation for Ms LuPone.
Funnily enough there seemed to be a bigger fan base for Heathers and Six in the audience than Hamilton judging from the cheers and screams in the audience.
It was also wonderful to see Vanessa Redgrave there to accept her award. In fact most winners were there apart from a couple of minor awards and Sophie Okonedo for best actress.
As always the speeches ranged from the inspiring to the, well, odd!
Carrie Hope Fletcher thought she was doing a YouTube blog and went on a bit and Jamael Westman kept talking about being in a "safe place".
It was a great night out and even got a Lion King goodie bag with some treats in it. Unfortunately I had to be up at 5.30am in the morning for work so had to miss out on the after party at the Café de Paris, but they are always a bit of bun fight anyway just for a glass of prosecco so probably didn't miss much. On second thoughts I could have ogled Mr Fleeshman and Mr Bailey................
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 19:08:34 GMT
So who's heading to the bookies to place a bet on Carrie winning next year for Fantine then? 😂
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Post by lynette on Mar 4, 2019 21:23:07 GMT
Did Hamilton not win because it is a bit, you know, 'clever clogs' ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 22:03:39 GMT
Did Hamilton not win because it is a bit, you know, 'clever clogs' ? Huh? It’s a great show and it can also be followed by anyone with a modicum of intelligence, that’s why it’s such a hit. What you see in this scenario is people using ‘awards’ and voting for them as an extension of fandom; the more rabid the fandom, the greater the need to affirm the importance of it and the voting system plays right into their hands. There are few winners from last night who won because of any superior artistic merit. |
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