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Post by The Matthew on Jun 10, 2016 18:15:36 GMT
I remember when someone bought Kerry Ellis two tickets to see Barbara Streisand in concert. They won't have been cheap! "I'm coming to see the show next Thursday. Here, have some tickets to go and see something else so you won't be here when I am."
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Post by shady23 on Jun 11, 2016 9:09:56 GMT
I went past the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang stage door last night in Newcastle and there were about fifty or so teenage girls there from the Carrie Hope Fletcher fan club. All, that I could see, waiting their turn, being polite and respectful, with maybe a little squeel of delight with their friends after they had met her. It was all quite sweet!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 11, 2016 9:19:05 GMT
I went past the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang stage door last night in Newcastle and there were about fifty or so teenage girls there from the Carrie Hope Fletcher fan club. All, that I could see, waiting their turn, being polite and respectful, with maybe a little squeel of delight with their friends after they had met her. It was all quite sweet!
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Post by viserys on Jun 11, 2016 10:17:18 GMT
I remember in an interview with Graham Norton, Daniel Radcliffe mentioned that Rupert Grint ended up at someone's house because he didn't say no. Here's the whole bit with James McAvoy as well about how unintentionally rude some of their fans can be: I remember that part from a rather fun documentary Tom Felton (Draco Malfoy from the Potter movies) did: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05nxglsNot sure if it can be seen right now, but it was a rather sweet positive documentary well worth seeing. I don't really have a personal opinion. I sort of started out as a "superfan" in the late 80s since Starlight Express (in Bochum) was the only show around and I'd end up seeing it 3-4 times a year, then did a few trips to Cats (in Hamburg) where I'd stay for a weekend and see the show twice in a row. I don't regret those years and I kinda understand what drives fans, but I'm glad that I've moved on, first to seeing far more different shows instead of the same things all over and over and finally branching out into plays, opera and ballet and doing more trips just for sightseeing and such without a show involved. Personally I feel I get more out of seeing different cities and countries and once in a while the stars align and I catch a show while travelling. While in Venice I spontaneously decided to see an opera at La Fenice for example and last month I saw two musicals in Moscow and although I didn't understand a word of Russian it was a great experience. But... each to their own, I say and I'm still mad enough to travel to London three times a year for new musicals and plays
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Post by Steffi on Jun 11, 2016 12:35:46 GMT
Some of these posts are an eye-opener for me... Jewellery, shoes, tweeting hints and thankyous...! Beggars belief! The whole fan thing is a lot creepier than I ever realized. (Would be interested in reading your piece on Punchdrunk fans, emicardiff. I only discovered them recently with The Drowned Man. Telling some friends afterwards that I had been "privated" twice in the one and only performance I attended, I was met with gasps of disbelief, and told not to mention it to real fans as they would be terribly envious as some would almost kill for a private session! (Don't some actually pay for an after hours session?)) With Punchdrunk you don't pay for after hour sessions but you can choose to support the company's work by becoming a keyholder. They have different levels that guarantees you different kind of rewards, some being special events. It's a great scheme. I've been a keyholder for a while as I love Punchdrunk's work and enjoy supporting them. As for being "privated" - I'm guessing that's referring to 1:1 performances which are a regular thing in Punchdrunk shows. And yes, there are fans who will literally hunt for these interactions in the show. Totally defeats their purpose I think as they are tied in with the story of the character. Personally I enjoy them the most when I am properly following the character. Punchdrunk shows make for a different kind of questionable superfans because of the way the show is set up. There are fans who start obsessing over performers after having had one (or more) 1:1 performances. Because 1:1s can be quite physical and up close there's fans who forget the performer is acting.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 12:43:15 GMT
Mmmm, well I nearly forgot (they were actors...!) I found it quite an experience... "pleasurable" in a way I'd not experienced before. Ever! I suppose I'm not supposed to reveal what was said or done, so I won't, but they were both certainly experiences I won't forget!
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Post by Steffi on Jun 11, 2016 13:13:57 GMT
Mmmm, well I nearly forgot (they were actors...!) I found it quite an experience... "pleasurable" in a way I'd not experienced before. Ever! I suppose I'm not supposed to reveal what was said or done, so I won't, but they were both certainly experiences I won't forget! Oh I totally agree. 1:1s are still precious experiences for me even though I've had a lot over the past 2.5 years. And these guys and girs are masters of letting you forget you are watching a performance. It all seems very real for the 3 hours you are in the space. :-)
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Post by Snciole on Jun 11, 2016 15:10:31 GMT
If I'd known about Mateo Oxley I would have been following Punchdrunk shamelessly too...
I am intrigued by these creepy fans hanging around shows with child actors. I am amazed any producer takes the risk.
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Post by Jon on Jun 11, 2016 16:07:59 GMT
If I'd known about Mateo Oxley I would have been following Punchdrunk shamelessly too... I am intrigued by these creepy fans hanging around shows with child actors. I am amazed any producer takes the risk. I'm surprised no producer uses restraining order on creepy fans or at least threaten them with the police
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Post by ptwest on Jun 11, 2016 19:24:07 GMT
I went past the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang stage door last night in Newcastle and there were about fifty or so teenage girls there from the Carrie Hope Fletcher fan club. All, that I could see, waiting their turn, being polite and respectful, with maybe a little squeel of delight with their friends after they had met her. It was all quite sweet! This is lovely. Very different to the highly entertaining couple of hours spent with friends and alcohol overlooking the stage door between performances when Nick Jonas was in Les Mis..: very entertaining watching how the passive aggressiveness built up as time for him to come out got closer. Then of course he didn't come out at all!
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Post by musicalfloozie on Jun 11, 2016 19:50:41 GMT
I have only ever stage doored once and that was at Mack and Mabel to see Michael Ball *don't judge me haha! Anyway 2 women joined me and started to talk very loudly to each other about all the times they'd met him and what he smelt like and went on and on, I think it might have been more of an attempt at bragging but I couldn't help coming away thinking I hope I don't get so obsessive about someone I barely know. I think admiring and liking a performer is fantastic anf they obviously would appreciate people's admiration and thanks but when it starts knowing there scent and buying them expensive gifts you may need to take a step back!
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Post by shady23 on Jun 11, 2016 19:58:11 GMT
I went past the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang stage door last night in Newcastle and there were about fifty or so teenage girls there from the Carrie Hope Fletcher fan club. All, that I could see, waiting their turn, being polite and respectful, with maybe a little squeel of delight with their friends after they had met her. It was all quite sweet! This is lovely. Very different to the highly entertaining couple of hours spent with friends and alcohol overlooking the stage door between performances when Nick Jonas was in Les Mis..: very entertaining watching how the passive aggressiveness built up as time for him to come out got closer. Then of course he didn't come out at all! When she doesn't stage door she gets lots of tweets how she has spoilt their day etc etc etc. It's such a huge sense of entitlement. To be disappointed is one thing and understandable. To tweet performers and try and make them feel guilty is another.
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Post by shady23 on Jun 11, 2016 20:09:49 GMT
Speaking of twitter and stage door reminded me of something at guys and dolls tour recently. Louise Dearman had Tweeted saying she was very sorry but she wasn't coming out between shows as she had interviews to do, her lunch to eat etc. What followed was one fan bombarded her with tweets saying how she had travelled an hour to see her, she was so upset and crying and really wanted to see her. To the extent that Louise felt she needed to go out and see her for five minutes as she sounded like she was having some kind of breakdown. She was not in watching the show and had met her two days earlier!
That is overstepping the mark of what is acceptable in my opinion.
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Post by infofreako on Jun 11, 2016 21:13:09 GMT
I remember when someone bought Kerry Ellis two tickets to see Barbara Streisand in concert Oh, that's occasionally happened to me - people saying "I've got you tickets for..." It's usually well meaning, but odd. The creepy thing is "please meet me for coffee so we can discuss the show / plan my trip." I have close friends I hardly have time to get coffee with, and when we do, we talk about anything but theatre, obviously. LOL. Hey theatremonkey. Ive got you tickets for something, ill tell you what it is when we do coffee first LOL
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Post by Raven on Jun 11, 2016 21:36:56 GMT
Speaking of twitter and stage door reminded me of something at guys and dolls tour recently. Louise Dearman had Tweeted saying she was very sorry but she wasn't coming out between shows as she had interviews to do, her lunch to eat etc. What followed was one fan bombarded her with tweets saying how she had travelled an hour to see her, she was so upset and crying and really wanted to see her. To the extent that Louise felt she needed to go out and see her for five minutes as she sounded like she was having some kind of breakdown. She was not in watching the show and had met her two days earlier! That is overstepping the mark of what is acceptable in my opinion. That's awful and definitely overstepping the mark. There seems to have been a surge in this kind of attitude towards actors/actresses in the West End, the vast majority coming from the younger fans. A lot of teenagers and young adults feel they are entitled to a meet and greet with their favourite performer and the need to broadcast all about it on social media in order to get the attention desired and the result they are looking for when things don't go as planned for them. These individuals need to understand that it is not compulsory for a West End actor to come out of the stage door with the intention of meeting fans. It is safe to say the majority of actors will happily take a moment of their time to listen to those who choose to meet them at stage door to let me know they enjoyed the show and their performance and get a photo but it's not right to hound them and make them feel guilty when there are occasions when they can't do a meet and greet. Stage-dooring used to be a calm and enjoyable experience but nowadays it's not nearly as pleasant. A true fan should be happy and grateful to have just seen the actor in the show and not see a meet and greet at stage door to be essential in order to enjoy themselves. It's a privilege not a necessity.
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Post by Michael on Jun 12, 2016 0:40:40 GMT
Thing is, I wouldn't even know what to tell them. After all, they are complete strangers to me.
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Post by Steffi on Jun 12, 2016 1:23:16 GMT
If I'd known about Mateo Oxley I would have been following Punchdrunk shamelessly too...[ Mateo's Tuttle 1:1 in The Drowned Man was quite legendary...
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 12, 2016 3:27:09 GMT
Speaking of twitter and stage door reminded me of something at guys and dolls tour recently. Louise Dearman had Tweeted saying she was very sorry but she wasn't coming out between shows as she had interviews to do, her lunch to eat etc. What followed was one fan bombarded her with tweets saying how she had travelled an hour to see her, she was so upset and crying and really wanted to see her. To the extent that Louise felt she needed to go out and see her for five minutes as she sounded like she was having some kind of breakdown. She was not in watching the show and had met her two days earlier! That is overstepping the mark of what is acceptable in my opinion. This is terrible. I hate that some actors feel the need to tweet that they're not coming out the stage door at all, but this is too much. P.S. An hour?! Like that's a lot!
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Post by d'James on Jun 12, 2016 3:34:03 GMT
I went past the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang stage door last night in Newcastle and there were about fifty or so teenage girls there from the Carrie Hope Fletcher fan club. All, that I could see, waiting their turn, being polite and respectful, with maybe a little squeel of delight with their friends after they had met her. It was all quite sweet! I'm sure Carrie would've lectured us if they hadn't conformed to her definition of respect. I can only imagine what would've happened if no one turned up.
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Post by shady23 on Jun 12, 2016 5:43:17 GMT
P.S. An hour?! Like that's a lot! She had travelled just to go to the stage door though, she did not watch the show.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 12, 2016 6:03:48 GMT
EVEN WORSE.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 12, 2016 7:56:50 GMT
I went past the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang stage door last night in Newcastle and there were about fifty or so teenage girls there from the Carrie Hope Fletcher fan club. All, that I could see, waiting their turn, being polite and respectful, with maybe a little squeel of delight with their friends after they had met her. It was all quite sweet! I'm sure Carrie would've lectured us if they hadn't conformed to her definition of respect. I can only imagine what would've happened if no one turned up. "Hi guys? Just to let you know I won't be stage dooring today? Cos it's like really tiring being in a show? And we have loads of really important rehearsals and stuff? Like, people don't understand how tough it all is? So if you've travelled I'm super-sorry OK? And if there are any presents just leave them? But it's like really, really important you write my name on them? Love Carrie xxx"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 11:11:51 GMT
If I'd known about Mateo Oxley I would have been following Punchdrunk shamelessly too...[ Mateo's Tuttle 1:1 in The Drowned Man was quite legendary... It was pretty terrifying, and when I went home that night, I was covered from head-to-toe in blood. And yet I didn't actually get that many odd looks from passersby...
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Post by partytentdown on Jun 13, 2016 7:13:30 GMT
If I'd known about Mateo Oxley I would have been following Punchdrunk shamelessly too...[ Mateo's Tuttle 1:1 in The Drowned Man was quite legendary... What happened? Wouldn't say no to any kind of one to one with him... if ya know what I'm sayin'.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 8:43:59 GMT
I got touched by his Tuttle once...(hehe couldn't resist) didn't ever get the 1:1 though alas.
I used to stage door a lot as a teen, oddly I did it more on trips to NY because then it was still a bit more common there than in London. A few encounters with scary-fans over the years have slowly erroded my enthusiasm though. And now as an official Old Person I feel a bit odd- though occasionally still do it, though can't actually remember the last time I did!
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Post by Steffi on Jun 13, 2016 10:07:35 GMT
Mateo's Tuttle 1:1 in The Drowned Man was quite legendary... What happened? Wouldn't say no to any kind of one to one with him... if ya know what I'm sayin'. Won't go into detail (I don't discuss Punchdrunk 1:1s in public) but it involved a weird ritual with lots of fake blood in a dark room and Mateo doing a handstand.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 0:39:25 GMT
Hey guys, I'm new here!
I haven't seen a show more than 10 times (yet), but I consider myself a superfan. I live in Spain and I travel at least twice a year to London, just to see theatre. I spend there 7-10 days, going to the theatre every evening (and every possible matinee).
So far:
Book of Mormon: 9 times Les Miz: 7 times Wicked: 5 times Matilda: 4 times Phantom: 3 times Memphis: 3 times
And a few other shows that I've only seen once or twice.
My next visit to the West End will be 28th August-7th September. Already got tickets for Into the Woods, Wicked (Rachel Tucker's "first" performance) and In the Heights. Any recommendation? I really wanna see Funny Girl and the Bank Robbery play.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 15, 2016 0:50:34 GMT
You sound like someone who is breaking into theatre, my tip and I did this, just sit back and enjoy the ride sometimes it can be bumpy, on the odd occasion you think you are going to crash, but most of the time it is nice and smooth, so enjoy!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 4:18:21 GMT
I'm seeing Wicked for the 13th time tonight, am very much excited as I haven't seen this cast yet!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 15, 2016 17:39:04 GMT
After seeing my 4th Wicked I thought "that's it, I never need to see this again"
I haven't played the OBC Since either.
Maybe one day.
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