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Post by ali973 on Dec 2, 2016 15:02:25 GMT
I'm seeing Hamilton on Broadway in exactly and approximately one week!
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Post by ali973 on Dec 10, 2016 4:43:24 GMT
First Hamilton outing.
Michael Luwoye as Hamilton. Excellent performance. His young Hamilton reminds me of 20somethings that join my workplace. Full of energy, dreams and ambition without an ounce of cynicism.
Brandon Victor Dixon gives an understated performance, sometimes to his disadvantage.
In terms of Hamilton's squad, Jordan Fisher as John Lawrence/Phillip gives the most polished and complete performance. He really was excellent and delivered beautifully. With Seth Stewart as Lafayette/Jefferson, I felt like he gave someone else's performance, although his Jefferson in Act II is more his. Unfortunately, I feel that he has little natural charm or charisma. The problem with Jevon McFerrin as Hercules/Madison (who I found very very attractive, above all) is that he, Seth Stewart and Nicholas Christopher (Washington) are all the same prototype, and all came across kind of "samey" in how they looked.
Not specifically impressed by any of the lead ladies. Mandy Gonzalez is not as dynamic as I thought she'd be, and Lexi is practically invisible.
The couple in front of me were extremely distracting because of all the love they gave each other throughout the show, which got seriously distracting by Act II. Tacky.
I normally get my theatre dosage in London and Europe, but do an annual or bi-annual US pilgrimage. The intermission at this theatre was quite barbaric, everyone all over the place trying to order drinks, go to the bathroom or buy merchandise. It was quite the fire hazard. The staff in the theatre, as well as other theatre, are so unprofessional and, well, rough. I've encountered valet attendants that were more polished and well put together. So yea, the Brits with their obsession with queuing and order have totally brainwashed me. I remembered feeling the same way when I saw Cats a few days ago. In London, everyone (children, in fact) orderly queue up to take photos with Old Deuteronomy. In New York, everyone and their mother got on the stage and flooded it. From the first row, I was having an internal anxiety attack and was controlling myself not to stand up and say get in line you monsters!
I of course enjoyed it and got some serious goosebumps moments in this terrific show. I'm seeing the Chicago company next week and can't wait to compare notes.
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Post by thebearofwestend on Dec 13, 2016 0:41:02 GMT
The reason I am asking because neither Rent, A Chorus Line did really do that well in London.
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Post by infofreako on Dec 13, 2016 0:59:15 GMT
I think it will. It seems to have the hype that Book of Mormon did. Could this not have gone in the Hamilton thread though?
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Post by d'James on Dec 13, 2016 1:05:47 GMT
It's an interesting one. I think it'll do well, just not as well as it has on Broadway. Mormon has the comedy aspect and the well-known names behind it. I just don't think a historical thing will do as well and it depends how well Lin becomes over here before the show opens.
It already has a lot of great accolades to put on the poster but that won't necessarily keep it going for that long. The marketing and reviews will have a lot to do with it as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 1:15:37 GMT
A Chorus Line was pre-internet. Rent may as well have been.
The Hamilton Mixtape was #3 on UK iTunes album charts on its day of release. Much of the hype has already spread. It will never be as big as it was/is in New York but that type of success for a musical is unprecedented anyway.
I think anyone that asks this question is gonna have a big awakening come January 16th/30th when the tickets go on sale. Not only will it survive, it will thrive.
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Post by thebearofwestend on Dec 13, 2016 1:18:41 GMT
It's an interesting one. I think it'll do well, just not as well as it has on Broadway. Mormon has the comedy aspect and the well-known names behind it. I just don't think a historical thing will do as well and it depends how well Lin becomes over here before the show opens. It already has a lot of great accolades to put on the poster but that won't necessarily keep it going for that long. The marketing and reviews will have a lot to do with it as well. Hamilton Thread???
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Post by daniel on Dec 13, 2016 1:29:33 GMT
It's an interesting one. I think it'll do well, just not as well as it has on Broadway. Mormon has the comedy aspect and the well-known names behind it. I just don't think a historical thing will do as well and it depends how well Lin becomes over here before the show opens. It already has a lot of great accolades to put on the poster but that won't necessarily keep it going for that long. The marketing and reviews will have a lot to do with it as well. Hamilton Thread??? The pre-existing Hamilton thread. theatreboard.co.uk/thread/99/hamilton
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 8:25:33 GMT
oh god not this question AGAIN *smacks head repeatedly against a wall*
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 9:20:57 GMT
There's a massive thread about Hamilton already, why does this deserve its own thread?!
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Post by Michael on Dec 13, 2016 9:41:17 GMT
Thread merged into the existing Hamilton thread.
Before starting a new thread, please do a quick search if there's already such a thread. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 9:49:30 GMT
It'll either do a Book Of Mormon and market itself really well and run happily, or it'll do a RENT and fail to capture the necessary interest and flipflop its way on out of the West End. It has a bit of a head-start in that we have the internet now and it's already proven itself quite popular, but although we can look at the evidence and weigh it up for over 90 pages of discussion (and already have. OH LORD HOW WE ALREADY HAVE), we simply WILL NOT KNOW UNTIL IT ACTUALLY OPENSSSSSZZZZzzzzzzzz......
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Post by talkstageytome on Dec 13, 2016 10:50:42 GMT
Yep, pretty much my thoughts too Baemax. I imagine it'll do well, as it's kind of become a phenomenon already. My local panto relied heavily on the Alexander Hamilton tune as a motif which played throughout the whole show, so it's definitely already out there in the public to some extent. Plus you'll have all the Americans and other tourists coming over to the see show as they can't get a ticket in NY, and I imagine their marketing budget will be huge so it'll be all over london and on TV too, gethering lots of hype. I imagine it'll do very well, at least for a few years. Much like BoM!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 11:06:06 GMT
It must be Christmas the Hamilton question again...
My personal theory is that if we use the 'Hamilton as the new Rent' anaology is that based on the evidence of a small but strong online community for Rent in the infancy of internet (and therefore online fandom etc etc) so that handful of theatre fans who were using the internet then knew about it, and went on to be devoted fans elsewhere (London and beyond). Obviously not the WHOLE audience but they didn't hinder it either.
NOW multiply that by every man and his dog being able to access information and engage with Hamilton online, mix in the crossover appeal that Rent has/had a little bit of but Hamilton seems to have more of...mix in the general (beyond internet-y fandom and folks) pop culture interest...and I think Ole Hammy has a fighting chance of not 'doing a Rent' in the West End.
And as this is the broken record thread, consider this my 'Rent ran for two years in the West End so wasn't a failure, and ALW big ones aside it had a comparable run to other new musicals of the time, it just didn't live up to and match the Broadway powerhouse.' notification for the season.
Can we get back to politics yo?
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Post by ali973 on Dec 18, 2016 15:36:50 GMT
Getting back to politics...
I saw the sit-down production in Chicago a few days ago (and will tomorrow too).
Wow, what a stellar production. First class casting and lightyears ahead of the Broadway cast.
Miguel Cervantes as Hamilton is excellent and full of energy. He's a very small man, which adds a lot to his need to be noticed and to be seen. He's in his mid-30s, so unlike, Michael Luwoye who plays a much younger Hamilton, the line "arrogant, obnoxious" as described by Burr totally works.
Burr was played by a giant of a man, Mr. Carl Clemons Hopkins who was understudying for Josh Henry that afternoon. Great acting, fine singing. I was nervous how he'd move during Room Where it Happens because he does't have your usual dancer's build, let alone towering over all the ensemble members (especially Hamilton, so the competition becomes even more interesting!). He danced it just fine..I was surprised to find out after the show that this was Carl's debut performance as Burr. My friend noticed that during the curtain call some cast members patted him and gave him a round of applause, I must have been looking somewhere else.
Karen Olivo as Anglica..Magic. I knew that something was off and boring about Mandy Gonzales's Angelica, and it became more evident seeing Karen tackle this. Layers over layers of characterization, fantastic details to her performance..and just a natural fountain of charisma.
Alexander Gemignani as King George is marvelous. I liked Rory O'Malley (and the videos I've seen of La Groff), but I have to say Alexander has put in so much thought and work into this. He is rather crazy from the get-go, and just keeps on getting more manic as the show continues.
Ari Afrsar sounds like a young Nora Jones, and she is instantly likelable and sympathetic, without being a boring and helpless. Totally made me shed a tear at the end.
So in comparison, the Chicago company definitely has got it together. If anyone is in the States and desperate to see Hamilton, I'd recommend this company over Broadway.
will play Alexander Hamilton, and Karen Olivo will play Angelica Schuyler in the Chicago production of "Hamilton." Chicago, meet your Alexander Hamilton: It's Miguel Cervantes. Meet your Angelica Schuyler: It's Karen Olivo. And meet your (former) King George III: It's Alexander Gemignani.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 23:17:34 GMT
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Does anyone know if DMT+ members will get access to early on sale for this?
Thanks for your help
And Happy Xmas to all
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Post by daniel on Dec 20, 2016 23:44:17 GMT
Please Does anyone know if DMT+ members will get access to early on sale for this? Thanks for your help And Happy Xmas to all 🎄 We're certainly getting access to the 16th Jan pre-sale, as for whether there's an "exclusive" pre-pre sale for DMT+ members, when I asked they didn't know yet. I'm hoping so as that was the main reason for me buying the membership, though with the drinks/programme vouchers and lack of booking fees I think it's paid for itself already!
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Post by thebearofwestend on Dec 21, 2016 4:18:56 GMT
Should I go to West End to see Hamilton if I saw IT in NY?
legit question
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Post by d'James on Dec 21, 2016 4:26:03 GMT
You should wait until the reviews are out.
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Post by Stasia on Dec 21, 2016 5:01:03 GMT
Also the question is "should you open a separate thread fir that or just ask in the Hamilton thread" where you can find lots of thoughts on that
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 5:40:26 GMT
Depends how close you are to London, how much you can afford to spend on tickets and how much you like the show. I've seen it twice in New York and plan to see it multiple times in London, although I doubt the cast will live up to the originals.
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Post by ali973 on Dec 21, 2016 5:50:13 GMT
I actually signed up for pre-booking, but never got any access or a code. Did anyone who sign up get anything in the mail yet?
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Post by viserys on Dec 21, 2016 6:31:05 GMT
I would assume we'll get a mail 1-2 days before to remind us/hype things up, then on the morning of 16th Jan get another email with a link to access the pre-booking.
As for seeing it again in London: I saw it "only" once in New York just after it opened and before the CD came out, so it was all a bit overwhelming and I am very much looking forward to see it again in London now that I'm familiar with the plot, the songs and the lyrics.
Otherwise, snutte made plenty good points already. Though personally I'm not sure I'd say that the London cast won't be able to live up to the original cast. Yes, it was great to see Lin-Manuel Miranda himself and everyone else was pretty great, but the only one who really really stood out for me was Daveed Diggs. Him I'd find hard to replace, the others... I'd say, wait and see. I'm actually looking forward to see what others will do with the characters.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 9:29:16 GMT
I had an email that thanked me for joining the priority booking, confirming the dates (16th for priority, 30th for general), and said they'd be in touch in the new year. I too saw it in New York without being familiar with the music, so I look forward to being able to enjoy the show rather than giving all my energies over to just keeping up. If you haven't listened to it yet, it's one of the few shows where I would recommend listening to the cast recording before seeing it. You don't *have* to, you can still follow and appreciate it perfectly well, but there really is *such* a lot going on that it doesn't hurt at all to be prepared. I have one friend who's only listened to act 1 so he can get used to the musical style and act 2 will come as a surprise, so maybe take it an act at a time if you're in two minds about listening in advance. In answer to the "legit question", only *you* can decide if you want to see a show in London having already seen it in New York. Your values are always going to be different to other people's, and there are just as many people who prefer not to waste time seeing something they've already seen as there are people who prefer seeing shows multiple times. You really will have to make your own decision on this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 11:30:34 GMT
Though personally I'm not sure I'd say that the London cast won't be able to live up to the original cast. Yes, it was great to see Lin-Manuel Miranda himself and everyone else was pretty great, but the only one who really really stood out for me was Daveed Diggs. Him I'd find hard to replace, the others... I'd say, wait and see. I'm actually looking forward to see what others will do with the characters. Just to clarify what I meant: I'm absolutely looking forward to seeing new interpretations of the roles/characters and I'm sure on an individual basis actors in the UK production may be as good as or better than actors in the New York production. I was talking more as a whole. The OBC for me was pretty perfect (and I'm picky with casting). If I had to pick a weak link it would have been Renee Elise Goldsberry and she still won a Tony for it so!
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