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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 12:32:54 GMT
Who is "a lot of people"? I'd really rather see an actor who isn't white play a role that has been specified to be played by an actor who isn't white, personally, and I suspect there's "a lot of people" who share my viewpoint too. I don't think we should necessarily expect crossover, casting-wise. It's just something I've read quite a few times
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Post by ShoesForRent on Nov 18, 2016 13:20:24 GMT
I also thought this was really cute:
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Post by charliec on Nov 18, 2016 13:47:14 GMT
Sia's Satisfied is online floating about. Love her so much, and her vocals are nuts ( and Latifah's verse is great) Yes its great. There are 6 tracks from the mixtape already available to download. Satisfied, Wait For it, My Shot, Quiet Uptown, Immigrants and Wrote My Way Out. The two ones that arent covers- Immigrants and Wrote My Way Out are both really special.
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Post by talkstageytome on Nov 18, 2016 14:13:42 GMT
Currently my ideas on casting are as follows... Hamilton - Literally no one comes to mind. Burr - If we could get any actor over from america I'd want Joshua Henry (Chicago company) Jefferson / Lafeyette - Aaron Blair Mangat? Loved him in KB and ITH. Maddison / Mulligan - Simon Ray Harvey Washington - Joe Aaron Reed (Makes sense as they played the same ith character too) King George - I've said it before and i'll pray for it every day... PLEASE can we get Gavin Creel back in London?! Angelica - Rachel John Eliza - Gabriella Garcia ( a little bit young maybe?) / Kimmy Edwards Peggy/Maria - Lucy St Louis / Lily Fraser Looking forward to seeing who they cast though. It'll be so interesting.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Nov 19, 2016 8:29:40 GMT
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Post by couldileaveyou on Nov 19, 2016 8:31:19 GMT
Brandon's speech:
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Post by londonmzfitz on Nov 19, 2016 9:42:00 GMT
They've just shown this on BBC Breakfast News (Saturday) as filmed from front stalls.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 9:52:13 GMT
Here's the clearer version:
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Post by basdfg on Nov 19, 2016 14:00:48 GMT
Donald trump has just tweeted about last night and has demanded the cast of Hamilton apologise to Mike Pence ( when he harrases many more people and does not0 He has demanded theatre's are a safe space.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 14:28:14 GMT
Donald trump has just tweeted about last night and has demanded the cast of Hamilton apologise to Mike Pence ( when he harrases many more people and does not0 He has demanded theatre's are a safe space. To be honest, I do think they should have left him alone while he was in the audience. If you want to tweet him afterwards, fine. But I think what they did was humiliating and it made me cringe. To be clear, I detest almost everything Pence and Trump stand for.
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Post by Dan213 on Nov 19, 2016 14:50:53 GMT
Not sure what I think about the Mike Pence thing last night. I think the theatre should be a place away from the world of politics etc and should be somehwere you can go and not have to worry about that kind of thing. It has disappointed me a little to see how involved Hamilton became in the election this year. Just to clarify also, I do not support the majority of the things Trump/Pence stand for
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Post by n1david on Nov 19, 2016 14:55:15 GMT
Not sure what I think about the Mike Pence thing last night. I think the theatre should be a place away from the world of politics etc and should be somehwere you can go and not have to worry about that kind of thing. While I think this is generally true, I would have thought that a musical about politics is not necessarily a place to get away from politics...
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Post by Dan213 on Nov 19, 2016 14:58:57 GMT
Not sure what I think about the Mike Pence thing last night. I think the theatre should be a place away from the world of politics etc and should be somehwere you can go and not have to worry about that kind of thing. While I think this is generally true, I would have thought that a musical about politics is not necessarily a place to get away from politics... Understand where you're coming from, but there are quite a few politics related musicals though, but almost all are historical. I still think it's a little off to publicly humiliate someone in the audience for coming to see a show though. Lowers them to his level in my opinion. I just don't think the theatre should be somewhere to flaunt their political viewpoint that's all
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 15:19:37 GMT
I say bloody well done to the cast! And well done to the booers. No point tweeting after, let them know people are angry. VP was an absolute fool turning up to Hamilton 'the hip show'
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 15:24:08 GMT
Not sure what I think about the Mike Pence thing last night. I think the theatre should be a place away from the world of politics etc and should be somehwere you can go and not have to worry about that kind of thing. It has disappointed me a little to see how involved Hamilton became in the election this year. Just to clarify also, I do not support the majority of the things Trump/Pence stand for I feel exactly the same way. For many people theatre is escapism. For just a few hours they don't want to worry about anything. The cast getting political can ruin that. It's actually quite selfish for the cast to make their personal political views public in front of an audience that paid an insane amount of money to enjoy themselves. I completely agree with the cast's view on this though. But they shouldn't use the theatre to voice their opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 15:26:37 GMT
I say bloody well done to the cast! And well done to the booers. No point tweeting after, let them know people are angry. VP was an absolute fool turning up to Hamilton 'the hip show' I completely understand and agree with their feelings. But it might have ruined many other people's nights. If I had paid a lot of money to see this show and something like this happened, it would have ruined my night and I would ask for a refund.
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Post by ali973 on Nov 19, 2016 15:33:57 GMT
Brandon's words were measured, civilized and polite. Considering he was speaking to a representative of the most unscrupulous public figure who have said the most inflammatory and racist remarks (and race is a huge thing in this show..newsflash!), I think it was very appropriate because it's something that personally concerns them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 15:35:47 GMT
Brandon's words were measured, civilized and polite. Considering he was speaking to a representative of the most unscrupulous public figure who have said the most inflammatory and racist remarks (and race is a huge thing in this show..newsflash!), I think it was very appropriate because it's something that personally concerns them. If I had been in the audience, it would still have ruined my evening. Even though I agree with the contents of the speech.
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Post by lewis on Nov 19, 2016 15:48:58 GMT
Not sure what I think about the Mike Pence thing last night. I think the theatre should be a place away from the world of politics etc and should be somehwere you can go and not have to worry about that kind of thing. It has disappointed me a little to see how involved Hamilton became in the election this year. Just to clarify also, I do not support the majority of the things Trump/Pence stand for I feel exactly the same way. For many people theatre is escapism. For just a few hours they don't want to worry about anything. The cast getting political can ruin that. It's actually quite selfish for the cast to make their personal political views public in front of an audience that paid an insane amount of money to enjoy themselves. I completely agree with the cast's view on this though. But they shouldn't use the theatre to voice their opinion. whilst I agree with the sentiment of escapism, Hamilton is so inextricably linked to that nations politics and actively advocates for progressive ideology. To not acknowledge current events, and particularly Pence's attendance after the reception it got, would be nigh on impossible. Also, it isn't just the cast's personal views. its the ethos of the show - the statement asked him to reconsider his views in light of the shows message. If you want escapism I guess the answer is dont go to hamilton in election season. Lion King is just down the street.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 15:53:53 GMT
I feel exactly the same way. For many people theatre is escapism. For just a few hours they don't want to worry about anything. The cast getting political can ruin that. It's actually quite selfish for the cast to make their personal political views public in front of an audience that paid an insane amount of money to enjoy themselves. I completely agree with the cast's view on this though. But they shouldn't use the theatre to voice their opinion. whilst I agree with the sentiment of escapism, Hamilton is so inextricably linked to that nations politics and actively advocates for progressive ideology. To not acknowledge current events, and particularly Pence's attendance after the reception it got, would be nigh on impossible. Also, it isn't just the cast's personal views. its the ethos of the show - the statement asked him to reconsider his views in light of the shows message. If you want escapism I guess the answer is dont go to hamilton in election season. Lion King is just down the street. Hamilton is about history. It's not about current politics. In my mind even a show about murder and war can be escapism. And not acknowledging current events is hardly impossible. It's actually extremely easy. You don't have to do anything as opposed to what they did now.
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Post by ali973 on Nov 19, 2016 15:57:20 GMT
Brandon's words were measured, civilized and polite. Considering he was speaking to a representative of the most unscrupulous public figure who have said the most inflammatory and racist remarks (and race is a huge thing in this show..newsflash!), I think it was very appropriate because it's something that personally concerns them. If I had been in the audience, it would still have ruined my evening. Even though I agree with the contents of the speech. It seems you're very fragile.
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Post by lewis on Nov 19, 2016 16:00:12 GMT
whilst I agree with the sentiment of escapism, Hamilton is so inextricably linked to that nations politics and actively advocates for progressive ideology. To not acknowledge current events, and particularly Pence's attendance after the reception it got, would be nigh on impossible. Also, it isn't just the cast's personal views. its the ethos of the show - the statement asked him to reconsider his views in light of the shows message. If you want escapism I guess the answer is dont go to hamilton in election season. Lion King is just down the street. Hamilton is about history. It's not about current politics. In my mind even a show about murder and war can be escapism. And not acknowledging current events is hardly impossible. It's actually extremely easy. You don't have to do anything as opposed to what they did now. i think it is extremely short sighted to say that hamilton is simply about history.
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Post by ShoesForRent on Nov 19, 2016 16:00:44 GMT
Im not American and don't claim to know Pence or even understand the fundamentals of this bizzare election and the American system.
But reading very little about him just now (this story made Israely news tonight- crazy!) I understand he was very public with his views on the lgbt comunnity (his support of conversion camps, not providing AIDs medication to men who refuse to undergo conversion etc) not to mention that bizzare thing about women having to burry their fetuses in case of abortion. This man is seeing a show who's lead is an out and proud, Hiv positive man- and for that I applaud both the speech and the booing audience.
As for those who might have had their night 'ruined' - they were a part of history last night, if anything I feel what happened only intensifies the messege of Hamilton
But thats just my 2 cents, the fact that I saw that clip on my tv in the Israely news is insane!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 16:02:35 GMT
If I had been in the audience, it would still have ruined my evening. Even though I agree with the contents of the speech. It seems you're very fragile. It seems you don't care about anyone else's opinion.
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Post by ali973 on Nov 19, 2016 16:03:54 GMT
I do, but only if they're good.
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