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Post by Sam on Sept 10, 2020 16:20:03 GMT
People will only listen to what they want to anyway. It's been 6 for a while now in pubs restaurants etc, but only from 2 households and you must maintain social distance. The majority stopped listening after 6 and acted accordingly.
The rules might be complicated but that's what happens when you legislate for such a variety of situations, hence why when changing to this blanket 6 Boris has said they have both strengthened and simplified. They've had to up some circumstances because of rises and because people want to be spoonfed what they can and can't do in one simple slogan rather than thinking I want to go to/do x let me check what the rules are for this circumstance so I know what I need to do.
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Post by sfsusan on Sept 10, 2020 22:08:40 GMT
So what does this mean, if anything, to theaters? I can't tell if 'socializing' strictly means gatherings between friends/family or includes commercial venues as well. (I was just starting to think about considering going back to a theater...)
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 11, 2020 8:53:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 9:30:57 GMT
So what does this mean, if anything, to theaters? I can't tell if 'socializing' strictly means gatherings between friends/family or includes commercial venues as well. (I was just starting to think about considering going back to a theater...) This has been discussed in other threads already. It doesn't mean anything to theatres as they are commercial enterprises. It just means groups of more than 6 can't go together, but nowhere was selling groups larger than that anyway as far as I know. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Sept 11, 2020 9:34:21 GMT
Thought they already were. I found out yesterday that venues taking track and trace details was only mandatory from this weeks announcement |
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Post by dontdreamit on Sept 11, 2020 13:59:10 GMT
Testing is a shambles. Loads of children locally have symptoms (which are probably just colds) but schools have to ask them to get tested and they are off in the meantime. This means that there are currently no tests that that parents have been able to access. Shambles.
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Post by intoanewlife on Sept 11, 2020 16:57:57 GMT
Testing is a shambles. Loads of children locally have symptoms (which are probably just colds) but schools have to ask them to get tested and they are off in the meantime. This means that there are currently no tests that that parents have been able to access. Shambles. But...but...I thought we were going to start testing 10 million people a day at the bargain price of 100 billion pounds? |
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 12, 2020 16:02:36 GMT
Cases do appear to be steadily going up by the thousand:
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Post by lynette on Sept 13, 2020 10:35:23 GMT
Had a notification from NHS that cases increasing in my area, the area for which the local authority allowed a funfair to take place over several days. The local authority knew of the funfair of course, an annual event and could have cancelled it in good time. I’m sorry for the people who run the fair, part of show business after all, but it would not have been a surprise. I am not saying the fair has caused the upturn, I am pointing out the lack of joined up government. In order to rid the world of smallpox, the medics visited every single dwelling in the areas concerned. We no longer have the will to do this or its equivalent in our world, no longer the tolerance for such intrusion but I believe we do have the resources, the money. We are not thinking straight. - come on, pubs ok but only six people in a house, regardless of grandparents, old aunties and so on. Of course, smallpox was eradicated by a vaccine and we must now come to the conclusion that only a vaccine will for the main part, eradicate covid19. Meanwhile I wish someone somewhere would whisper in the ear of government: Shield the vulnerable, educate ourselves and use common sense.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Sept 13, 2020 10:45:36 GMT
Had a feeling yesterday doing a ‘Two Play’ day at The Bridge similar to early March, life going on seemingly normal with the shadow beginning to fall.
Have a further ‘Two Play’ day on the 3rd of Oct and now thinking of bringing the dates forward as 3 weeks is a long time in COVID.
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Post by lynette on Sept 13, 2020 13:13:23 GMT
Had a feeling yesterday doing a ‘Two Play’ day at The Bridge similar to early March, life going on seemingly normal with the shadow beginning to fall. Have a further ‘Two Play’ day on the 3rd of Oct and now thinking of bringing the dates forward as 3 weeks is a long time in COVID. You are a pioneer, Neil. |
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Post by NeilVHughes on Sept 13, 2020 13:56:54 GMT
lynette a trip to The Bridge is highly recommended. Controls are exemplary, phased entrance, large foyer with the doors to the auditorium open about 20 minutes before the start. Arrived about 25 mins before the start, a socially distanced small queue, a few minutes to use the facilities and then straight to my seat. Acres of space around each set of seats along with strict policing of face masks and felt safer than a visit to any supermarket or eaterie I have been to. Would give the David Hare a miss but the Talking Heads currently playing are excellent.
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Post by theatreian on Sept 15, 2020 15:44:28 GMT
Below is a link for writing to the homelessness minister due to the covid issue surrounding homelessness. If you could spare a few minutes to fill it out and forward the letter then hopefully action will follow. Extraordinary measures in response to coronavirus showed that with political will, ending homelessness is within reach. Unless we act now, we risk thousands returning to homelessness. Join me in supporting the Crisis Home For All campaign and write to the Homelessness Minister now: campaigns.crisis.org.uk/page/65809/action/1 |
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Post by Mark on Sept 15, 2020 20:00:17 GMT
I just don't think people will stand for it. Genuinely don't. Time to get our lives back. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 20:15:31 GMT
I just don't think people will stand for it. Genuinely don't. Time to get our lives back. And if the virus gave a crap what anyone wants that would be a useful attitude. If you have a solution that will allow us to get our lives back without hundreds of thousands of people losing theirs then let's hear it. Saying you don't want to put up with it is like saying you don't want to get older. No matter how many times you say it, it doesn't change a thing. Until we have a cure every business has to work out a way to work around the necessities. If they can't, they can't. Nobody gets a free pass because life is difficult. |
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Post by n1david on Sept 15, 2020 20:15:42 GMT
“People” may not stand for it, but if bars, restaurants, cinemas and theatres are forced to close then they won’t have a lot of choice. Yes, there will be private parties and gatherings, but most businesses will close if told to.
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Post by zahidf on Sept 15, 2020 21:04:23 GMT
It'd be the opposite: they'll be doing lots more banning of households or early finish curfews. O don't think they'll close businesses again.
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 15, 2020 21:39:25 GMT
Does anyone else think that curfews will lead to some people adopting an attitude of 'lets see how drunk we can get before nine o clock' attitude?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 21:43:22 GMT
They can't close businesses again - the government can't afford to keep furlough going. Curfews (with exceptions such as travelling to and from work or events) and even smaller group numbers are far more likely than closing places entirely.
Some people still seem determined not to take the economic impact of this pandemic into account. Like it or not, the virus is no longer the only factor at play here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 21:46:01 GMT
I just don't think people will stand for it. Genuinely don't. Time to get our lives back. And if the virus gave a crap what anyone wants that would be a useful attitude. If you have a solution that will allow us to get our lives back without hundreds of thousands of people losing theirs then let's hear it. Saying you don't want to put up with it is like saying you don't want to get older. No matter how many times you say it, it doesn't change a thing. Until we have a cure every business has to work out a way to work around the necessities. If they can't, they can't. Nobody gets a free pass because life is difficult. Do you want to try telling that to all the people who are still gathering in groups bigger than six, not wearing masks etc? It's all very well saying people have to put up with restrictions, but if they aren't being enforced then no-one can blame those who are complying from becoming thoroughly fed up and wondering why they are staying so miserable under restrictions when others aren't bothering and are not getting in trouble. If restrictions are not properly enforced they will become increasingly untenable. |
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 15, 2020 21:46:27 GMT
They can't close businesses again - the government can't afford to keep furlough going. Curfews (with exceptions such as travelling to and from work or events) and even smaller group numbers are far more likely than closing places entirely. Some people still seem determined not to take the economic impact of this pandemic into account. Like it or not, the virus is no longer the only factor at play here. The trouble is, as much as we care about the economy, the virus kind of is the only thing at play. It does not care about the economy. Let it run rampant and the economy us decimated anyway. This conversation should move to the Coronavirus thread. |
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Post by zahidf on Sept 15, 2020 22:00:12 GMT
Does anyone else think that curfews will lead to some people adopting an attitude of 'lets see how drunk we can get before nine o clock' attitude? Yup 100% Saying that, I don't think a lockdown is a better bet |
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Post by christya on Sept 15, 2020 22:10:19 GMT
Does anyone else think that curfews will lead to some people adopting an attitude of 'lets see how drunk we can get before nine o clock' attitude? Absolutely. Also makes it more likely that people will try having get-togethers at people's houses where they can go on late into the night. I couldn't find any concrete source on a proposed curfew though, have I missed something obvious? Can't see it going down very well. |
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 15, 2020 22:25:47 GMT
Does anyone else think that curfews will lead to some people adopting an attitude of 'lets see how drunk we can get before nine o clock' attitude? Absolutely. Also makes it more likely that people will try having get-togethers at people's houses where they can go on late into the night. I couldn't find any concrete source on a proposed curfew though, have I missed something obvious? Can't see it going down very well. It's mainly conjecture at this point but the amount of coverage suggests it's a strong possibility. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/09/09/whole-of-uk-could-be-hit-by-10pm-curfew-in-bid-to-avoid-second-wave-13243578/amp/ |
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Post by n1david on Sept 16, 2020 8:06:19 GMT
They can't close businesses again - the government can't afford to keep furlough going. Curfews (with exceptions such as travelling to and from work or events) and even smaller group numbers are far more likely than closing places entirely. Well, they did close businesses in Leicester and Bolton... I don’t think there will be another national lockdown, but we could easily see more local comprehensive lockdowns over the winter. |
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