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Post by sf on Jun 27, 2020 13:06:45 GMT
nearly all accept cash ( The cashier in Next said they had returned to accepting cash due to many people getting to the till, not having a card on them, and then leaving without the goods in the week between re opening and u turning. People can be incredibly selfish and stupid, can't they? |
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Post by basdfg on Jun 27, 2020 13:14:39 GMT
nearly all accept cash ( The cashier in Next said they had returned to accepting cash due to many people getting to the till, not having a card on them, and then leaving without the goods in the week between re opening and u turning. People can be incredibly selfish and stupid, can't they? Cash is still legal tender. Shop workers have gloves on now mostly anyway.
It's the banks who are selfish refusing to go back to normal hours like everything else on the high street despite most bank users not having the skills to even contemplate online banking.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jun 27, 2020 13:26:48 GMT
nearly all accept cash ( The cashier in Next said they had returned to accepting cash due to many people getting to the till, not having a card on them, and then leaving without the goods in the week between re opening and u turning. People can be incredibly selfish and stupid, can't they? Harsh. I'm generally for a cashless society but you can't expect people to change over night especially when carrying cash is legal and with no clear direction from Dominic Cummings... |
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Post by sf on Jun 27, 2020 13:27:00 GMT
Cash is still legal tender - when free IT lessons for all come in then maybe you can expect everyone to cope. Shop workers have gloves on now mostly anyway. ...and yes, true, there are some people who have to use cash, although fewer than there used to be. That doesn't in any way lessen the sheer arrogance of people - and there are many of them - who are able to pay via other means and think all those signs asking people to use contactless cards don't apply to them. It's the banks who are selfish refusing to go back to normal hours like everything else on the high street. Banks have reduced their hours partly because they have fewer available staff while some people are shielding, and partly as a means of protecting their staff by lessening face-to-face interaction with customers. Neither of those things are "selfish". Whining because companies are taking measures to protect their employees, however, certainly is. |
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Post by sf on Jun 27, 2020 13:31:26 GMT
People can be incredibly selfish and stupid, can't they? Harsh. I'm generally for a cashless society but you can't expect people to change over night especially when carrying cash is legal and with no clear direction from Dominic Cummings...
No, not harsh. Observation. The point of asking people not to use cash is to protect the people serving us in shops, because those people are generally not well-paid and have been putting themselves in harm's way every day since this began. It's a small measure that almost all of us can take, and it is not an inconvenience. Most - not all, but most - people have other means of payment available to them, and it is extraordinarily arrogant if people who have a choice continue to insist on using cash in these circumstances when retailers are asking us not to.
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Post by basdfg on Jun 27, 2020 13:31:55 GMT
People can be incredibly selfish and stupid, can't they? Harsh. I'm generally for a cashless society but you can't expect people to change over night especially when carrying cash is legal and with no clear direction from Dominic Cummings... A few months ago the government made an announcement vowing to protect cash usage - ditto the other week on the news (during the lockdown) they was a report about how some small towns had been selected for a trial to improve access to bank branches to see if it's methods could be used nationwide - thing like shared branches are involved.
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Post by basdfg on Jun 27, 2020 13:32:45 GMT
Cash is still legal tender - when free IT lessons for all come in then maybe you can expect everyone to cope. Shop workers have gloves on now mostly anyway. ...and yes, true, there are some people who have to use cash, although fewer than there used to be. That doesn't in any way lessen the sheer arrogance of people - and there are many of them - who are able to pay via other means and think all those signs asking people to use contactless cards don't apply to them. It's the banks who are selfish refusing to go back to normal hours like everything else on the high street. Banks have reduced their hours partly because they have fewer available staff while some people are shielding, and partly as a means of protecting their staff by lessening face-to-face interaction with customers. Neither of those things are "selfish". Whining because companies are taking measures to protect their employees, however, certainly is. A lot of companies are too cheap to pay for masks and gloves for their employees - most of the retail measures are incredibly cheap to run. |
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Post by basdfg on Jun 27, 2020 13:37:55 GMT
Harsh. I'm generally for a cashless society but you can't expect people to change over night especially when carrying cash is legal and with no clear direction from Dominic Cummings...
No, not harsh. Observation. The point of asking people not to use cash is to protect the people serving us in shops, because those people are generally not well-paid and have been putting themselves in harm's way every day since this began. Most - not all, but most - people have other means of payment available to them, and it is extraordinarily arrogant if people who have a choice continue to insist on using cash in these circumstances when retailers are asking us not to.
Gloves are proven to remove all risk from cash i believe. |
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Post by sf on Jun 27, 2020 13:42:28 GMT
No, not harsh. Observation. The point of asking people not to use cash is to protect the people serving us in shops, because those people are generally not well-paid and have been putting themselves in harm's way every day since this began. Most - not all, but most - people have other means of payment available to them, and it is extraordinarily arrogant if people who have a choice continue to insist on using cash in these circumstances when retailers are asking us not to.
Gloves are proven to remove all risk from cash i believe.
Nope. Wearing gloves doesn't reduce the risk much - perhaps any - more than regular handwashing. What reduces the risk much more? Taking cash out of the equation as far as possible.
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Post by basdfg on Jun 27, 2020 13:43:39 GMT
Gloves are proven to remove all risk from cash i believe.
Nope. Wearing gloves doesn't reduce the risk much - perhaps any - more than regular handwashing. What reduces the risk much more? Taking cash out of the equation as far as possible.
Why does the NHS spend money on gloves then if they don't work. |
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Post by Jon on Jun 27, 2020 13:45:27 GMT
Banks have reduced their hours partly because they have fewer available staff while some people are shielding, and partly as a means of protecting their staff by lessening face-to-face interaction with customers. Neither of those things are "selfish". Whining because companies are taking measures to protect their employees, however, certainly is. Also, it's worth pointing out that most non essential shops have reduced their opening hours, maybe not as much as the banks but it's not exactly back to normal. |
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Post by sf on Jun 27, 2020 13:47:57 GMT
Nope. Wearing gloves doesn't reduce the risk much - perhaps any - more than regular handwashing. What reduces the risk much more? Taking cash out of the equation as far as possible.
Why does the NHS spend money on gloves then if they don't work. NHS staff don't wear gloves to protect themselves while handling cash. Thank you, I know what a straw man is. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jun 27, 2020 13:48:09 GMT
Harsh. I'm generally for a cashless society but you can't expect people to change over night especially when carrying cash is legal and with no clear direction from Dominic Cummings...
No, not harsh. Observation. The point of asking people not to use cash is to protect the people serving us in shops, because those people are generally not well-paid and have been putting themselves in harm's way every day since this began. It's a small measure that almost all of us can take, and it is not an inconvenience. Most - not all, but most - people have other means of payment available to them, and it is extraordinarily arrogant if people who have a choice continue to insist on using cash in these circumstances when retailers are asking us not to.
Yes. I am aware of the benefits of not using cash. Hence why I am in favour of a cashless society. I am also aware of everyone not thinking along the same lines as you. How arrogant of them not to have the same viewpoint as you. |
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Post by sf on Jun 27, 2020 13:52:48 GMT
No, not harsh. Observation. The point of asking people not to use cash is to protect the people serving us in shops, because those people are generally not well-paid and have been putting themselves in harm's way every day since this began. It's a small measure that almost all of us can take, and it is not an inconvenience. Most - not all, but most - people have other means of payment available to them, and it is extraordinarily arrogant if people who have a choice continue to insist on using cash in these circumstances when retailers are asking us not to.
Yes. I am aware of the benefits of not using cash. Hence why I am in favour of a cashless society. I am also aware of everyone not thinking along the same lines as you. How arrogant of them not to have the same viewpoint as you. Sigh. It's about showing respect for other people. In a pandemic, one of the ways to help protect other people is to limit how much we ask them to touch things we have touched ourselves, which is why there's so much emphasis on contactless payment, contactless deliveries and all the rest of it. It's not about "the same viewpoint" as me. It's about simple measures everyone can take to keep the people they come in contact with safe. And yes, I'm afraid people who choose not to take those measures are arrogant, and selfish, and deserve to be judged as such. It's like using a public toilet without washing your hands afterwards. |
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Post by Jon on Jun 27, 2020 13:55:56 GMT
While this is a different conversation entirely, a cashless society is something that is going to happen eventually, maybe not anytime soon but I don't think it's a bad thing for companies to encourage it at the moment.
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Post by sf on Jun 27, 2020 14:01:11 GMT
While this is a different conversation entirely, a cashless society is something that is going to happen eventually, maybe not anytime soon but I don't think it's a bad thing for companies to encourage it at the moment.
And there are certainly arguments against it - there's an excellent argument against it in The Handmaid's Tale.
Right now, though, it behoves those of us who have the choice, which these days is nearly everyone, to limit our use of cash as far as we can, just as it behoves us, as far as we can, not to ask anyone outside our own household to touch things we've touched.
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Post by basdfg on Jun 27, 2020 14:04:00 GMT
While this is a different conversation entirely, a cashless society is something that is going to happen eventually, maybe not anytime soon but I don't think it's a bad thing for companies to encourage it at the moment.
And there are certainly arguments against it - there's an excellent argument against it in The Handmaid's Tale.
Right now, though, it behoves those of us who have the choice, which these days is nearly everyone, to limit our use of cash as far as we can, just as it behoves us, as far as we can, not to ask anyone outside our own household to touch things we've touched.
Everyone in all the clothes shops are touching other clothes and then putting them back with no signs to encourage you to not or to where clothes or even a mask. |
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Post by sf on Jun 27, 2020 14:07:04 GMT
Everyone in all the clothes shops are touching other clothes and then putting them back with no signs to encourage you to not or to where clothes or even a mask. That's true, and two wrongs don't make a right. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jun 27, 2020 14:25:26 GMT
Yes. I am aware of the benefits of not using cash. Hence why I am in favour of a cashless society. I am also aware of everyone not thinking along the same lines as you. How arrogant of them not to have the same viewpoint as you. Sigh. It's about showing respect for other people. In a pandemic, one of the ways to help protect other people is to limit how much we ask them to touch things we have touched ourselves, which is why there's so much emphasis on contactless payment, contactless deliveries and all the rest of it. It's not about "the same viewpoint" as me. It's about simple measures everyone can take to keep the people they come in contact with safe. And yes, I'm afraid people who choose not to take those measures are arrogant, and selfish, and deserve to be judged as such. It's like using a public toilet without washing your hands afterwards. And with the quality of information varying from newspapers, news channels, debate around unclear government advice etc... Please take that into account when you judge them |
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Post by sf on Jun 27, 2020 14:31:00 GMT
Sigh. It's about showing respect for other people. In a pandemic, one of the ways to help protect other people is to limit how much we ask them to touch things we have touched ourselves, which is why there's so much emphasis on contactless payment, contactless deliveries and all the rest of it. It's not about "the same viewpoint" as me. It's about simple measures everyone can take to keep the people they come in contact with safe. And yes, I'm afraid people who choose not to take those measures are arrogant, and selfish, and deserve to be judged as such. It's like using a public toilet without washing your hands afterwards. And with the quality of information varying from newspapers, news channels, debate around unclear government advice etc... Please take that into account when you judge them Why, yes. How DARE I expect people to think for themselves and show consideration towards the people around them? The nerve. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 27, 2020 14:31:50 GMT
Cash is very expensive item to administer and is also very dirty, as you don’t know who handled the cash before. With this pandemic it was a good time to go partial cashless, the government should of outlawed businesses that handled food, from accepting cash. Good example in the heatwave my local ice cream man, was dispensing food and handling cash, needless to say I didn’t queue. Incidentally I created a thread on this subject, a while ago. theatreboard.co.uk/thread/6471/cash |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 14:41:16 GMT
How ironic that there are posts clamouring for "respect for other people" that entirely fail to respect that some people are not going to be able to use cards.
Like anything else,take precautions by wearing gloves or frequently sanitizing your hands (as shop staff will be told to do). If you do that, there is no need whatsoever to be paranoid about anyone using cash!
In some respects it seems this pandemic has caused some people to lose all sense of perspective, which is almost as frightening as the consequences of the disease itself.
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Post by sf on Jun 27, 2020 14:42:37 GMT
How ironic that there are posts clamouring for "respect for other people" that entirely fail to respect that some people are not going to be able to use cards. Are there? If that was aimed at me, I've acknowledged more than once that some people have no choice but to use cash. |
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Post by basdfg on Jun 27, 2020 14:54:53 GMT
Cash is very expensive item to administer and is also very dirty, as you don’t know who handled the cash before. With this pandemic it was a good time to go partial cashless, the government should of outlawed businesses that handled food, from accepting cash. Good example in the heatwave my local ice cream man, was dispensing food and handling cash, needless to say I didn’t queue. Incidentally I created a thread on this subject, a while ago. theatreboard.co.uk/thread/6471/cashThen you would see people resort to shop lifting as getting a card if you dont have one is not easy atm.
Ditto would the government tell the banks to offer free card readers and no extra fees - the smaller the business the less financially viable accepting card is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 15:35:20 GMT
The way that people like supermarket workers have been used and abused has been terrible. It's the whole attitude that picks on the weak and then holds them up as an example for others to follow.
When someone says 'well, if a & b can do it then so can x & y' the answer is not to endanger a & b in the first place. It's no wonder that workers in public facing jobs that continued during lockdown have had higher mortality. Taxi & bus drivers etc. Who would be one of them in a week's time when the pubs turn out?
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