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Post by basdfg on May 20, 2020 10:18:51 GMT
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Post by talkingheads on May 20, 2020 11:08:59 GMT
The first socially distanced concert has now taken place. I really hate to be negative but it looks like the most depressing night out. I'd ratger they stayed off for longer until it's safe than this. Gigs are all about the social, the get together. At the very least relaxing. Whatever this is certainly doesn't qualify!
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Post by talkingheads on May 20, 2020 15:06:58 GMT
A look at what a socially distanced theatre might actually look like. It isn't an audience and it certainly isn't economically viable for punter or promoter but better than nothing.
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Post by theatreian on May 20, 2020 15:14:07 GMT
This really looks dreadful. I can't stand going to any event when it is only a fraction full. There is nothing worse than just a muted applause and in my mind part of the attraction of live entertainment is the atmosphere and the response of an audience. This would not be there in theatres only a fraction full.
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Post by basdfg on May 20, 2020 15:48:00 GMT
They look like gimmicks
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Post by basdfg on May 20, 2020 15:48:16 GMT
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Post by clair on May 20, 2020 15:57:38 GMT
Having been to several concerts that weren't exactly sold out they can still be great - it all depends on the people in the audience and how the performer deals with the small number of people. Many shows I've seen in theatres have been less than half full but still thoroughly enjoyable - all depends on how glass half full/empty a person you are really
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Post by talkingheads on May 20, 2020 17:07:53 GMT
This really looks dreadful. I can't stand going to any event when it is only a fraction full. There is nothing worse than just a muted applause and in my mind part of the attraction of live entertainment is the atmosphere and the response of an audience. This would not be there in theatres only a fraction full. In Edinburgh some of my best memories are of shows where I made up half the audience. The difference is the tiny venue size. In a theatre it would be much more noticeable. If it means theatre can start up again I'm all for it but I'm facsinated to see how they plan to make it even vaguely affordable for anyone. |
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Post by basdfg on May 20, 2020 17:19:56 GMT
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Post by basdfg on May 20, 2020 17:24:13 GMT
This really looks dreadful. I can't stand going to any event when it is only a fraction full. There is nothing worse than just a muted applause and in my mind part of the attraction of live entertainment is the atmosphere and the response of an audience. This would not be there in theatres only a fraction full. In Edinburgh some of my best memories are of shows where I made up hakf the audience. The difference is the tiny venue size. In a theatre it would be much more noticeable. If it means theatre can start up again I'm all for it but I'm facsinated to see how they plan to make it even vaguely affordable for anyone. It's not affordable - that concert was not something being run for anything but to simply perform. Even the simplest plays would struggle to cover their costs. |
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Post by TallPaul on May 20, 2020 17:43:06 GMT
One swallow a summer does not make, but no new cases of Covid yesterday in either London or East England.
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Post by alece10 on May 20, 2020 17:48:00 GMT
One swallow a summer does not make, but no new cases of Covid yesterday in either London or East England. Yes but they have just said on the London news that the figure is not correct due technical issues. It sounded too good to be true. |
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Post by basdfg on May 20, 2020 18:09:26 GMT
Will the UK not being part of the EHIC card affect tourism and thus theatre sales. If insurance is a fair bit more expensive will eu tourists stay in the bloc more than before?
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Post by basdfg on May 20, 2020 22:04:59 GMT
The government will be happy if it boosts domestic tourism (Less happy if TUI and co fail and have to cover millions of refunds or let millions of people lose money.)
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Post by vdcni on May 21, 2020 7:37:24 GMT
I don't know if they will be happy about it but they certainly shouldn't be if we've reached a point that other countries are saying the UK Governments response has been so feeble they are reluctant to allow British people into their countries.
I'm sure the government will keep trying to peddle the line that they've done well though.
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Post by basdfg on May 21, 2020 9:29:30 GMT
I don't know if they will be happy about it but they certainly shouldn't be if we've reached a point that other countries are saying the UK Governments response has been so feeble they are reluctant to allow British people into their countries. I'm sure the government will keep trying to peddle the line that they've done well though. I think we will see the public revert to political polarisation in how they see the government response. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 10:51:44 GMT
I don't know if they will be happy about it but they certainly shouldn't be if we've reached a point that other countries are saying the UK Governments response has been so feeble they are reluctant to allow British people into their countries. I'm sure the government will keep trying to peddle the line that they've done well though. I think we will see the public revert to political polarisation in how they see the government response. What about all those ‘borrowed’ votes, transitional labour voting Tory to get Brexit ‘done’? |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 11:14:58 GMT
I'm sure the government will keep trying to peddle the line that they've done well though. Apart from the stupidity of the initial approach that's resulted in us having ten times as many cases as we should have had, I think the government has actually done pretty well. The whole world is having to make it as as we go along, and at least in Britain we don't have to deal with politicians who are either denying that the disease exists or are acting as though it's all a scheme to bring down the government. Or boasting about how having more infections than anywhere else means "we're number one!" Having said that, I think heads should roll over the initial approach. The original assumption that we could build up natural herd immunity when nobody knew whether this disease was one where that could happen, along with the idea that the mortality rate among the healthy would be close enough to zero as makes no difference and all we had to do was "flatten the curve", plus the fact that the initial inaction was exactly the opposite of what was required to flatten the curve anyway, all suggest a staggering degree of incompetence that needs to be investigated. |
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Post by basdfg on May 21, 2020 11:22:03 GMT
I think the global new cold war between the West and China and it's allies wil be economically massive. Easier to see half the world being in two camps economically ignoring the other for nearly all purposes including even many cultural and sporting events. Hard to tell where the next 5 years will go.
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Post by Jon on May 21, 2020 11:23:54 GMT
I imagine Matt Hancock will likely be gone from the cabinet when this has passed. I think the global new cold war between the West and China and it's allies wil be economically massive. Easier to see half the world being in two camps economically ignoring the other for nearly all purposes including even many cultural and sporting events. Hard to tell where the next 5 years will go. Stop doom mongering as usual. |
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Post by basdfg on May 21, 2020 11:28:56 GMT
I imagine Matt Hancock will likely be gone from the cabinet when this has passed. I think the global new cold war between the West and China and it's allies wil be economically massive. Easier to see half the world being in two camps economically ignoring the other for nearly all purposes including even many cultural and sporting events. Hard to tell where the next 5 years will go. Stop doom mongering as usual. How is that doom mongering?
But to add a positive maybe nothing will happen.
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Post by basdfg on May 21, 2020 11:48:54 GMT
I do find being optimistic hard at times through - I am one of those people who doesn't like the crash from being optimistic to not being it.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 11:49:08 GMT
I imagine Matt Hancock will likely be gone from the cabinet when this has passed. Stop doom mongering as usual. How is that doom mongering?Â
But to add a positive maybe nothing will happen.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 21, 2020 11:54:31 GMT
I'm sure the government will keep trying to peddle the line that they've done well though. Apart from the stupidity of the initial approach that's resulted in us having ten times as many cases as we should have had, I think the government has actually done pretty well. The whole world is having to make it as as we go along, and at least in Britain we don't have to deal with politicians who are either denying that the disease exists or are acting as though it's all a scheme to bring down the government. Or boasting about how having more infections than anywhere else means "we're number one!" Having said that, I think heads should roll over the initial approach. The original assumption that we could build up natural herd immunity when nobody knew whether this disease was one where that could happen, along with the idea that the mortality rate among the healthy would be close enough to zero as makes no difference and all we had to do was "flatten the curve", plus the fact that the initial inaction was exactly the opposite of what was required to flatten the curve anyway, all suggest a staggering degree of incompetence that needs to be investigated. I don't want to go all Piers Morgan, but what exactly has the government done well? |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 12:10:10 GMT
I don't want to go all Piers Morgan, but what exactly has the government done well? Changing their minds about their original approach. Having a lockdown, and getting legislation passed to enable it. Getting the reproduction rate of the virus down. Making funding available to support people who can't work. What do you think they've done badly and how would you have done it better, without the benefit of hindsight? Most of the criticism I've seen is people complaining that the government should have known months ago what we know now, or the government should support their preferred causes at the expense of everyone else, or that the government's message is muddled because they refuse to think for themselves and want the government to do it for them. |
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