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Post by longinthetooth on Dec 1, 2021 19:22:21 GMT
I was unfortunate enough to have to catch a bus full of teenage schoolchildren this afternoon. Not a single one was wearing a mask.
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Post by Phantom of London on Dec 1, 2021 20:59:57 GMT
I just hope they were serving doubles, it bodes well with their standards.
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Post by eua78 on Dec 1, 2021 21:19:12 GMT
To say that I am apoplectic with rage would be a huge understatement. There goes any chance of further compliance with Covid guidelines. Johnson has royally f***ed this country. I loathe him. I despise him. and, honestly at this point, anybody who votes Tory is culpable. I'm done being nice. I’m surprised it’s taken you to now to reach this point 😅. We all know it’s one rule for them and one for us it’s been that way ever since the 1st lockdown and honestly don’t think anyone’s shocked they broke rules 😂 |
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Post by Jonnyboy on Dec 1, 2021 21:53:16 GMT
The papers making this widespread knowledge is causing further damage. We need public compliance. BJ is to blame but reporting it in this way makes the situation worse.  I know this is what the press is for and it’s their job but this shouting from the rooftops ‘one rule for them, another for us’ is not helpful to anybody. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Dec 1, 2021 22:29:56 GMT
The papers making this widespread knowledge is causing further damage. We need public compliance. BJ is to blame but reporting it in this way makes the situation worse. I know this is what the press is for and it’s their job but this shouting from the rooftops ‘one rule for them, another for us’ is not helpful to anybody. Strange comment |
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Post by eua78 on Dec 1, 2021 22:45:05 GMT
The papers making this widespread knowledge is causing further damage. We need public compliance. BJ is to blame but reporting it in this way makes the situation worse. I know this is what the press is for and it’s their job but this shouting from the rooftops ‘one rule for them, another for us’ is not helpful to anybody. I get where you’re coming from, but the press wouldn’t have anything to report if they did actually act like the rest of us, public compliance has always been on the downturn even without the press. We’re all fed up of this never ending sh*tshow 😒 |
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Post by zahidf on Dec 1, 2021 23:43:28 GMT
The papers making this widespread knowledge is causing further damage. We need public compliance. BJ is to blame but reporting it in this way makes the situation worse. I know this is what the press is for and it’s their job but this shouting from the rooftops ‘one rule for them, another for us’ is not helpful to anybody. But it's true! Same reason Hancock was sacked. We should expect politicians to follow the rules rhe place on us. |
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Post by londonpostie on Dec 2, 2021 3:52:00 GMT
The papers making this widespread knowledge is causing further damage. We need public compliance. BJ is to blame but reporting it in this way makes the situation worse. I know this is what the press is for and it’s their job but this shouting from the rooftops ‘one rule for them, another for us’ is not helpful to anybody. But it's true! Same reason Hancock was sacked. We should expect politicians to follow the rules rhe place on us. Well Johnson is a 'politicin' in the same way he's a 'journalist' or 'writer'. He's a politician becasue it provides a platform for him to make money eleswhere - as per Tony Blair.
No one voted for Johnson because he was moral or decent - he's a sack of sh*t, everyone knows that. He's PM for one reason, and he accomplished that. He got it done. As soon at the tories fall in the polls they'lll get rid of him and he can go off and make new fortunes on the back of his expoloits. I shouldn't think he's too bothered either way.
Like Cameron before, he was taught that rules are for the small people. You don't have to worry about rules. The law? Well only to the extent you can't cover your tracks.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Dec 2, 2021 9:02:22 GMT
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Post by vdcni on Dec 2, 2021 9:37:59 GMT
The papers making this widespread knowledge is causing further damage. We need public compliance. BJ is to blame but reporting it in this way makes the situation worse. I know this is what the press is for and it’s their job but this shouting from the rooftops ‘one rule for them, another for us’ is not helpful to anybody. No, I can't agree with that at all. If this was a pop star or something then I might just say - it was a year ago let's not worry about it now - but the government who actually laid the rules down, mostly late and reluctantly, acting like that while people weren't able to see their dying loved ones all for the sake of a few Christmas drinks, it's outrageous. It tells us a lot about their judgement and character and therefore whether they are worth our vote. |
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Post by Jonnyboy on Dec 2, 2021 21:17:38 GMT
The papers making this widespread knowledge is causing further damage. We need public compliance. BJ is to blame but reporting it in this way makes the situation worse. I know this is what the press is for and it’s their job but this shouting from the rooftops ‘one rule for them, another for us’ is not helpful to anybody. Strange comment Maybe it is. My point isn’t that it shouldn’t be reported but shouting about it in this uneducated style just goads people into doing the wrong thing. We should be pointing out BJ’s idiocy AND promoting readers not to be like him. Instead we say ‘one rule for them and another for us’ and people take that sentiment and just do what the hell they like. |
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Post by Jonnyboy on Dec 2, 2021 21:24:43 GMT
The papers making this widespread knowledge is causing further damage. We need public compliance. BJ is to blame but reporting it in this way makes the situation worse. I know this is what the press is for and it’s their job but this shouting from the rooftops ‘one rule for them, another for us’ is not helpful to anybody. No, I can't agree with that at all. If this was a pop star or something then I might just say - it was a year ago let's not worry about it now - but the government who actually laid the rules down, mostly late and reluctantly, acting like that while people weren't able to see their dying loved ones all for the sake of a few Christmas drinks, it's outrageous.  It tells us a lot about their judgement and character and therefore whether they are worth our vote. To be clear, I’m not advocating not reporting these things. These people need to be held to account. My point is that by reporting these things people are provoked not to do the right thing. It’s a Catch 22. You can’t have both honest and open and explicit reporting of bad behaviour AND the public complying. That doesn’t mean it should go unreported but it’s genuinely not helpful to the overall cause. I have no answers. But people read these headlines and then think sod the rules. Reporting it is right but it doesn’t help the covid situation! |
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Post by zahidf on Dec 3, 2021 0:25:37 GMT
No, I can't agree with that at all. If this was a pop star or something then I might just say - it was a year ago let's not worry about it now - but the government who actually laid the rules down, mostly late and reluctantly, acting like that while people weren't able to see their dying loved ones all for the sake of a few Christmas drinks, it's outrageous.  It tells us a lot about their judgement and character and therefore whether they are worth our vote. To be clear, I’m not advocating not reporting these things. These people need to be held to account. My point is that by reporting these things people are provoked not to do the right thing. It’s a Catch 22. You can’t have both honest and open and explicit reporting of bad behaviour AND the public complying. That doesn’t mean it should go unreported but it’s genuinely not helpful to the overall cause. I have no answers. But people read these headlines and then think sod the rules. Reporting it is right but it doesn’t help the covid situation! Well.... depends how you take this. IMO it means maybe we shouldn't follow more stringent rules that our leaders advocate. (who the country voted for and will still vote for). |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Dec 3, 2021 9:04:36 GMT
To be clear, I’m not advocating not reporting these things. These people need to be held to account. My point is that by reporting these things people are provoked not to do the right thing. It’s a Catch 22. You can’t have both honest and open and explicit reporting of bad behaviour AND the public complying. That doesn’t mean it should go unreported but it’s genuinely not helpful to the overall cause. I have no answers. But people read these headlines and then think sod the rules. Reporting it is right but it doesn’t help the covid situation! Well.... depends how you take this. IMO it means maybe we shouldn't follow more stringent rules that our leaders advocate. (who the country voted for and will still vote for). Imagine having voted for them nevermind considering voting Tory again? |
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Post by vdcni on Dec 3, 2021 9:20:08 GMT
No, I can't agree with that at all. If this was a pop star or something then I might just say - it was a year ago let's not worry about it now - but the government who actually laid the rules down, mostly late and reluctantly, acting like that while people weren't able to see their dying loved ones all for the sake of a few Christmas drinks, it's outrageous. It tells us a lot about their judgement and character and therefore whether they are worth our vote. To be clear, I’m not advocating not reporting these things. These people need to be held to account. My point is that by reporting these things people are provoked not to do the right thing. It’s a Catch 22. You can’t have both honest and open and explicit reporting of bad behaviour AND the public complying. That doesn’t mean it should go unreported but it’s genuinely not helpful to the overall cause. I have no answers. But people read these headlines and then think sod the rules. Reporting it is right but it doesn’t help the covid situation! I see your point but much of the right wing press have already been undermining the rules from the very beginning with all their freedom rhetoric and the BBC have been happy to invite the likes of Toby Young on despite his complete lack of expertise to debate lockdown rules etc. The horse has pretty much bolted on that score by now. |
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Post by talkingheads on Dec 4, 2021 9:36:45 GMT
It's astonishing to me that Cressida Dick can go around saying they aren't investigating because "nobody has complained". Well, I and many others have. If this isn't investigated then the police are utterly unfit for purpose. They can tackle innocent women at a peaceful vigil but holding Parliament to account is beyond them. I am absolutely disgusted at where we are as a country.
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Post by talkingheads on Dec 8, 2021 7:46:54 GMT
This story is not going away. PMQ's today will be required viewing. How they will weasel out of this I do not know. After the video kf them joking about it. I am
apoplectic with rage.
If Kier Starmer cannot wipe the floor with Johnson over this, he is unfit to be in the opposition.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Dec 8, 2021 8:43:41 GMT
This story is not going away. PMQ's today will be required viewing. How they will weasel out of this I do not know. After the video kf them joking about it. I am apoplectic with rage. If Kier Starmer cannot wipe the floor with Johnson over this, he is unfit to be in the opposition. Can you imagine the shame of having elected them? |
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Post by talkingheads on Dec 8, 2021 9:13:59 GMT
This story is not going away. PMQ's today will be required viewing. How they will weasel out of this I do not know. After the video kf them joking about it. I am apoplectic with rage. If Kier Starmer cannot wipe the floor with Johnson over this, he is unfit to be in the opposition. Can you imagine the shame of having elected them? Anybody who votes Tory after this is either pig ignorant or complicit. How can they expect to enforce restriction or, in more extreme cases, laws, if they can't be held to their own standards? People fined for holding parties are going to court. Presumably their defence is now 'PM did it'. Those already fined should demand refunds. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 10:29:19 GMT
It would be nice if Johnson was held to account over this, but he won't be. This is nothing new. He's always been like this. All he needs to do is say "I've done nothing wrong" and everyone who supports him is going to say "See? He's done nothing wrong" and that'll be the end of it as far as they're concerned because apparently allowing criminals decide for themselves whether they've broken the law is something we're doing now. He's never been pulled up on any of the many other times he's been corrupt, dishonest or outside the law, so what chance is there that this is going to be the event that breaks the hold he has over his fans?
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Dec 8, 2021 11:22:14 GMT
going back to TalkingHeads earlier point, does Keir Starmer need Johnson?
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Post by talkingheads on Dec 8, 2021 11:57:22 GMT
A lot of talk about imposing new restrictions (which, of course, are now unenforceable due to the Government's actions and public trust being obliterated)
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Post by Mark on Dec 8, 2021 12:24:00 GMT
Well some things would be enforceable - vaccine passports for example.
Anything else? Probably not.
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Post by talkingheads on Dec 8, 2021 12:31:16 GMT
Johnson has to resign. There is no other option. Public trust is destroyed. He cannot be in a position of power after this.
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Post by talkingheads on Dec 8, 2021 13:09:44 GMT
Why is The Liar's go to attack to accuse Labour of 'playing politics'? They're politicians. At PMQ's.
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