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Post by eulenspiegel on Nov 19, 2021 20:56:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2021 22:35:16 GMT
I've known more people who have caught it in the last 3 weeks than at any other single point of the pandemic. Luckily my friends are all sensible enough to be vaccinated but a couple have still felt pretty rough.
Winter illness is definitely in full swing - most people who don't have Covid seem to have some sort of cold, and the amount of coughing on the Tube is much higher than it has been. And the Tube is ridiculously busy in rush hour now, before 9am it's close to pre-pandemic levels sometimes.
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Post by Jon on Nov 20, 2021 0:00:14 GMT
Winter illness is definitely in full swing - most people who don't have Covid seem to have some sort of cold, and the amount of coughing on the Tube is much higher than it has been. And the Tube is ridiculously busy in rush hour now, before 9am it's close to pre-pandemic levels sometimes. Social distancing and lockdowns certainly staved off most colds and the flu last year. Have to say I hate people coughing without using a tissue, use a face mask or stay at home if you're ill! |
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Post by Phantom of London on Nov 20, 2021 1:41:44 GMT
My booster is next month. I wasn't eligible to book it until this week so I did it this morning. I don't know which one it'll be yet. It but like the old Woolworth’s pick ‘n’ mix. |
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Post by olliebean on Nov 20, 2021 11:43:39 GMT
Winter illness is definitely in full swing - most people who don't have Covid seem to have some sort of cold, and the amount of coughing on the Tube is much higher than it has been. And the Tube is ridiculously busy in rush hour now, before 9am it's close to pre-pandemic levels sometimes. Some of those people who think they just have a cold probably have Covid - the symptoms of the current variant, particularly in vaccinated people, are far more similar to colds than earlier variants, and the government, for reasons best known to themselves, don't seem to be interested in publicising this fact, or in changing the now outdated list of symptoms that qualify you for a free PCR test. |
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Post by zahidf on Nov 20, 2021 13:44:33 GMT
Get the booster!
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Post by zahidf on Nov 20, 2021 13:45:11 GMT
Winter illness is definitely in full swing - most people who don't have Covid seem to have some sort of cold, and the amount of coughing on the Tube is much higher than it has been. And the Tube is ridiculously busy in rush hour now, before 9am it's close to pre-pandemic levels sometimes. Some of those people who think they just have a cold probably have Covid - the symptoms of the current variant, particularly in vaccinated people, are far more similar to colds than earlier variants, and the government, for reasons best known to themselves, don't seem to be interested in publicising this fact, or in changing the now outdated list of symptoms that qualify you for a free PCR test. Most people are still using LFT tests, which would pick it up if that was true. Most people also probably just have a cold. |
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Post by olliebean on Nov 20, 2021 14:12:32 GMT
Some of those people who think they just have a cold probably have Covid - the symptoms of the current variant, particularly in vaccinated people, are far more similar to colds than earlier variants, and the government, for reasons best known to themselves, don't seem to be interested in publicising this fact, or in changing the now outdated list of symptoms that qualify you for a free PCR test. Most people are still using LFT tests, which would pick it up if that was true. Most people also probably just have a cold. Self-administered LFT tests have around 40% false negative rate, meaning if someone has Covid the LFT test won't pick it up around 40% of the time. So that could still be a lot of people believing they don't have it when they do. |
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 20, 2021 16:34:48 GMT
Some of those people who think they just have a cold probably have Covid - the symptoms of the current variant, particularly in vaccinated people, are far more similar to colds than earlier variants, and the government, for reasons best known to themselves, don't seem to be interested in publicising this fact, or in changing the now outdated list of symptoms that qualify you for a free PCR test. Most people are still using LFT tests, which would pick it up if that was true. Most people also probably just have a cold. Most. Only a minority. |
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Post by zahidf on Nov 20, 2021 18:19:57 GMT
Some of those people who think they just have a cold probably have Covid - the symptoms of the current variant, particularly in vaccinated people, are far more similar to colds than earlier variants, and the government, for reasons best known to themselves, don't seem to be interested in publicising this fact, or in changing the now outdated list of symptoms that qualify you for a free PCR test. Most people are still using LFT tests, which would pick it up if that was true. Most people also probably just have a cold. Not really that high www.medicaldevice-network.com/features/lft-pcr-discrepancy/ |
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Post by olliebean on Nov 20, 2021 23:22:48 GMT
This is from over a month ago and it has since been established that the negative PCR results were wrong, I think because of problems at the lab. The LF tests rarely give false positives (but frequently give false negatives). |
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Post by Mark on Nov 21, 2021 20:02:26 GMT
Anyone complaining about people not wearing masks inside theatres - tune in to the Adele concert at the palladium. All of these celebrities in the audience setting a great example that no- they’re no longer required.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 21, 2021 20:36:44 GMT
Anyone complaining about people not wearing masks inside theatres - tune in to the Adele concert at the palladium. All of these celebrities in the audience setting a great example that no- they’re no longer required. Eh? |
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Post by Jon on Nov 21, 2021 20:39:56 GMT
I would imagine that An Audience of Adele would have to been both vaccinated and having to provide a negative test result before they went in.
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Post by lynette on Nov 21, 2021 20:45:28 GMT
I would imagine that An Audience of Adele would have to been both vaccinated and having to provide a negative test result before they went in. Actually I doubt it. |
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 21, 2021 21:43:35 GMT
I would imagine that An Audience of Adele would have to been both vaccinated and having to provide a negative test result before they went in. Actually I doubt it. I could imagine everyone being tested. |
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Post by zahidf on Nov 21, 2021 22:52:50 GMT
Anyone complaining about people not wearing masks inside theatres - tune in to the Adele concert at the palladium. All of these celebrities in the audience setting a great example that no- they’re no longer required. They don't have to wear masks indoors for concerts though. |
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Post by zahidf on Nov 22, 2021 14:44:19 GMT
Current Israel studies had high anti bodies with the booster shot with the first ones who got it 8 months out. I think in 4 months the time the death rates will go straight through the floor and we can all chill and stop worrying about it as much as we have It depends if enough people get the booster. It’s looking like 15% or so of the over 80’s will refuse it. Well looks like the booster jabs are going fine |
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 22, 2021 15:21:56 GMT
It depends if enough people get the booster. It’s looking like 15% or so of the over 80’s will refuse it. Well looks like the booster jabs are going fine That’s good. Through 13% of the vaccinated over 80’s should still be reduced and that 60-64 figure is a little low for that age group as they have been eligible for several weeks and it’s lower than 55-59. Hopefully we get regular updates so we know if we going to settle on a level that could cause high hospitalisations or not in that age group. |
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Post by lou on Nov 22, 2021 15:34:21 GMT
I think some of it could be people waiting for the convenience of getting the booster at their GP. I know locally that you need to travel outside of the immediate area if you book using the website whereas the local GP is more convenient but less frequent.
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Post by lynette on Nov 22, 2021 18:48:38 GMT
I think some of it could be people waiting for the convenience of getting the booster at their GP. I know locally that you need to travel outside of the immediate area if you book using the website whereas the local GP is more convenient but less frequent. All my jabs nowhere near the GP cos coordinated together in a group from lots of practices. V efficient service, appts etc but had to drive further than to GP. Maybe this kind of thing is putting off people, dunno. |
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Post by christya on Nov 23, 2021 10:56:13 GMT
My parents got their boosters 3-4 weeks after they probably should have done, because their GP just isn't contacting people. When I eventually nagged them into phoning the GP (because they wouldn't let me book an appointment at the relatively nearby Nightingale) the GP's response was "Just book it online". Which would have been fine, but they got the first two doses at the GP and were patiently waiting to be invited back. Ended up taking them to the Nightingale.
Got my own booster over the weekend...oh well, I didn't use my right arm for much anyway! No side effects other than my arm hurting like hell (never had this before, but then this is my first MRNA vaccine (Moderna)).
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Post by Someone in a tree on Nov 23, 2021 11:26:37 GMT
I think some of it could be people waiting for the convenience of getting the booster at their GP. I know locally that you need to travel outside of the immediate area if you book using the website whereas the local GP is more convenient but less frequent. All my jabs nowhere near the GP cos coordinated together in a group from lots of practices. V efficient service, appts etc but had to drive further than to GP. Maybe this kind of thing is putting off people, dunno. [br Someone on Radio 4 recently said a 45 minute drive was too far to go for her booster. I'd rather take 2hrs out of my day for that then have Covid. |
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Post by theatreian on Nov 23, 2021 12:02:59 GMT
I have moved since my original vaccinations but it was easier to get my booster where I originally lived. We go back each week to see family anyway so no problem. My arm ached for about 3 days too, I had Pfizer booster. I'd originally had Astrozenica.
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Post by lynette on Nov 23, 2021 12:52:46 GMT
I’ve noticed that the booster is now on the NHS app. What on earth do people do if they have no smart devices? Bad enough having to gently guide OH to download the app etc. I’m not a techie ( as we know) so it was a bit of challenge for me but loads of people won’t have any proof of the vaccination unless they apply for letters from the NHS. GPs have it on their records of course so can ask them for proof but this won’t help as it won’t conform to what is required for travel abroad etc. I do think they should have given out recognised cards on vaccination, the little ones not acceptable apparently. Oh well, onward and upward, eh? Just keep well guys. All the rest is dressing…
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