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Post by talkingheads on Jul 21, 2020 10:01:25 GMT
If it means that venues can open again I'd be all for it, though my only worry would be that for it to have any use then presumably it has to be quite strong, and this is just asking to be sued when it goes in someone's eyes.
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Post by baguette on Jul 21, 2020 10:09:53 GMT
Errrr. 1m social distancing in seated venues here in France means every row occupied with one empty seat between booking families. Do we have different tape measures or something? Good for ALW speaking up anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 10:17:59 GMT
Errrr. 1m social distancing in seated venues here in France means every row occupied with one empty seat between booking families. Do we have different tape measures or something? Good for ALW speaking up anyway. You must do because a theatre seat is definitely not 1m wide! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 10:24:15 GMT
I know this has been said before, but in the last week I sat on two planes that were 100% full; if it's ok for me to sit next to a snoring stranger with his nose poking out of his mask while his head is lolling on my shoulder in that context, why can't I sit next to (or one seat away from if really necessary) a much better behaved fellow theatregoer?
If Italy is anything to go by, other European countries seem far more pragmatic and far less scared than the UK is. I don't really understand what's wrong with us.
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Post by Jon on Jul 21, 2020 11:05:22 GMT
I mean, I'll be sprayed with anything they like if I can get in - but if it's antibacterial, is that effective against viruses...? It’s a mist of some sort, they used it in South Korea and I believe Showcase Cinemas also equipped their cinemas with it. |
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 21, 2020 11:20:09 GMT
I know this has been said before, but in the last week I sat on two planes that were 100% full; if it's ok for me to sit next to a snoring stranger with his nose poking out of his mask while his head is lolling on my shoulder in that context, why can't I sit next to (or one seat away from if really necessary) a much better behaved fellow theatregoer? If Italy is anything to go by, other European countries seem far more pragmatic and far less scared than the UK is. I don't really understand what's wrong with us. Isn't it because planes have much better air ventilation systems, up to a medical standard? |
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Post by baguette on Jul 21, 2020 13:22:14 GMT
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 21, 2020 13:24:53 GMT
Having gone shopping with a mask, I know I absolutely couldn't watch a show wearing one. Hot, uncomfortable, I really didn't like it. I appreciate it's how things are and I'll get used to it but I'll certainly be shopping less.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 13:36:32 GMT
I know this has been said before, but in the last week I sat on two planes that were 100% full; if it's ok for me to sit next to a snoring stranger with his nose poking out of his mask while his head is lolling on my shoulder in that context, why can't I sit next to (or one seat away from if really necessary) a much better behaved fellow theatregoer? If Italy is anything to go by, other European countries seem far more pragmatic and far less scared than the UK is. I don't really understand what's wrong with us. Isn't it because planes have much better air ventilation systems, up to a medical standard? Something to do with ventilation/filtration, I heard; I heard N Hytner say on the radio that the Bridge and some other new theatres have the same system. Suspect it's more to do with economics and lobbying than any carefully thought through analysis of risks v benefits. I agree with having non-SD flights and letting people choose to take them if they want to; I just wish it was possible for theatres to do the same. Though I suspect maybe there are fewer people willing to sit in a theatre in a non-SD way than there are people willing to do the same on a plane - due to demographics, perception of benefit, etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 13:39:06 GMT
Having gone shopping with a mask, I know I absolutely couldn't watch a show wearing one. Hot, uncomfortable, I really didn't like it. For me the issue was my glasses steaming up. The techniques for preventing that don't work, so though I can put up with not being able to see clearly for a few minutes I wouldn't be able to tolerate it for any significant length of time. Theatre and cinema will be off the menu for a while. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 13:44:44 GMT
Having gone shopping with a mask, I know I absolutely couldn't watch a show wearing one. Hot, uncomfortable, I really didn't like it. For me the issue was my glasses steaming up. The techniques for preventing that don't work, so though I can put up with not being able to see clearly for a few minutes I wouldn't be able to tolerate it for any significant length of time. Theatre and cinema will be off the menu for a while. God, hadn't thought of that - my sunglasses get steamed up on the train so I just take them off for the duration but I do need my specs in the theatre... |
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 21, 2020 13:55:59 GMT
Having gone shopping with a mask, I know I absolutely couldn't watch a show wearing one. Hot, uncomfortable, I really didn't like it. For me the issue was my glasses steaming up. The techniques for preventing that don't work, so though I can put up with not being able to see clearly for a few minutes I wouldn't be able to tolerate it for any significant length of time. Theatre and cinema will be off the menu for a while. Me too. I had to go shopping without my glasses because I wouldn't have been able to see otherwise! It's not ideal but it just means now I'll do one big shop a month and that's it, no going to the high street for a while. |
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Post by Jon on Jul 21, 2020 14:01:41 GMT
Something to do with ventilation/filtration, I heard; I heard N Hytner say on the radio that the Bridge and some other new theatres have the same system. Suspect it's more to do with economics and lobbying than any carefully thought through analysis of risks v benefits. I agree with having non-SD flights and letting people choose to take them if they want to; I just wish it was possible for theatres to do the same. Though I suspect maybe there are fewer people willing to sit in a theatre in a non-SD way than there are people willing to do the same on a plane - due to demographics, perception of benefit, etc. I find it odd that The Bridge isn't part of any sort of trial as they have the flexibility that many theatres don't have. You could reduce the capacity of The Bridge to be on the scale of the Dorfman or Kiln in theory and just change the type of shows that plays there. I wonder if members of the public would be allowed to be part of these trials, I would certainly take part. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 14:15:36 GMT
Jon I say this as someone who really likes the Bridge but, apart from the Shakespeares and the Maggie Smith, it's never more than max two thirds full anyway - so reducing capacity temporarily doesn't seem like the worst thing in the world. Maybe with their funding structure it's just not worth their while to go through the hassle of trial and error - might be cheaper for them to sit tight and wait till they can open properly. I'd also be more than happy (bloody ecstatic in fact) to volunteer to be a trial audience.
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Post by n1david on Jul 21, 2020 16:15:29 GMT
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Post by Jon on Jul 21, 2020 16:30:47 GMT
The video which is on the audience guide page is well worth a watch.
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Post by baguette on Jul 21, 2020 17:17:48 GMT
Oh thank you. Fascinating! They've reduced seating to around 30% of the usual capacity by the looks of it. The audience guide is impressive and very clear. How is social distancing maintained in the venue?
There are one-way systems around the theatre and installed signage to indicate appropriate distancing. We have reduced our audience capacity to 671 seats, across three levels. In the auditorium, each cluster of seats is separated from any other cluster of seats, audience members are not sat face-to-face, temperature screening will take place for everyone on arrival, and face coverings are mandatory throughout the venue, except when eating and drinking.
(Differences from current French theatre & cinema policy for audiences: No temperature checks over here, we work on one empty seat between booking groups, face coverings can be removed when seated but are mandatory at all other times in the theatre) |
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Post by dontdreamit on Jul 21, 2020 17:40:20 GMT
I got an email, but it was sold out by the time I clicked on it! |
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Post by Jon on Jul 21, 2020 17:58:42 GMT
I assume there will be other trials elsewhere in the coming months.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jul 21, 2020 18:23:31 GMT
The video which is on the audience guide page is well worth a watch. Having watched that & read the other info on the website there are a few things which would concern me if I were to attend: The at-seat service presumably means that people sitting on the aisle will have ushers delivering food & drink potentially squeezing past them to get to people sitting futher in. It looks like the hand sanitiser dispensers have to be touched to get the sanitiser. Why not have touch-free ones? The much-vaunted fogging is optional.
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 21, 2020 18:36:00 GMT
The video which is on the audience guide page is well worth a watch. Having watched that & read the other info on the website there are a few things which would concern me if I were to attend: The at-seat service presumably means that people sitting on the aisle will have ushers delivering food & drink potentially squeezing past them to get to people sitting futher in. It looks like the hand sanitiser dispensers have to be touched to get the sanitiser. Why not have touch-free ones? The much-vaunted fogging is optional.
With the hand sanitiser, isn't that like every soap dispender? You might have to touch the dirty dispenser the microsecond before you rub sanitizer into your hands? I agree about the at seat delivery, I wouldn't use it but I would be concerned about ushers squeezing past, unless they are keeping every other row free? |
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Post by CG on the loose on Jul 21, 2020 18:40:31 GMT
I got an email, but it was sold out by the time I clicked on it! Likewise. |
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Post by sf on Jul 21, 2020 18:40:58 GMT
With the hand sanitiser, isn't that like every soap dispender? You might have to touch the dirty dispenser the microsecond before you rub sanitizer into your hands? My local supermarket has installed dispensers you operate with a pedal, so you never have to touch them with your bare hands. They also, unfortunately, haven't ever bothered to refill them, and have simply dumped hand-operated plastic pumps on top of the empty foot-operated dispensers, but never mind. The thought was there, for about ten seconds. (I take my own.) |
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Post by CG on the loose on Jul 21, 2020 18:46:49 GMT
The video which is on the audience guide page is well worth a watch. Having watched that & read the other info on the website there are a few things which would concern me if I were to attend: The at-seat service presumably means that people sitting on the aisle will have ushers delivering food & drink potentially squeezing past them to get to people sitting futher in. It looks like the hand sanitiser dispensers have to be touched to get the sanitiser. Why not have touch-free ones? The much-vaunted fogging is optional.
I would think there'll be an empty row in between every row with occupied seats which would facilitate the in-seat service. And the hand sanitisers look to have a lever that could easily be operated with an elbow, but yes touch-free might have been better. |
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Post by Jon on Jul 21, 2020 18:57:52 GMT
Keep in mind these are pilots but I assume they looked into hands free and it may have been uneconomical. Also, I would imagine if you have your own hand sanitiser then you don't need to use the ones provided by the theatre.
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