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Post by partytentdown on Nov 2, 2022 8:59:21 GMT
ALW was in the audience last night
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Nov 2, 2022 10:06:06 GMT
ALW was in the audience last night Let's just say he has an interest in this show... They are defo trying to transfer this to a bigger venue. |
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Nov 2, 2022 10:21:33 GMT
Not “trying.” The show was created for the West End and was originally contracted to open at the West End theatre, but when RG got involved he requested a run at the Almeida first.
The West End run has been arranged literally for several years.
It’s not a case of “now the show’s a hit let’s try to arrange a transfer.” (Which honestly doesn’t happen much, except in genuine surprise hits like Six or Pride and Prejudice Sort Of.)
Honestly I’ve said this about six times, do people not believe me or am I just invisible? I’ve been posting about this production for years.
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Post by shownut on Nov 2, 2022 10:28:58 GMT
Not “trying.” The show was created for the West End and was originally contracted to open at the West End theatre, but when RG got involved he requested a run at the Almeida first, The West End run has been contracted and scheduled literally for several years. It’s not a case of “now the show’s a hit let’s try to arrange a transfer.” Honestly I’ve said this about six times, do people not believe me or am I just invisible? I’ve been posting insider info about this production for years and even broke the news before Baz. Trust me, I want to believe you but until it has been formally announced, nothing seems 100% certain. Would be nice to know when we could expect an announcement and frankly, one would imagine that if a transfer/theatre was actually in place they would announce it soon while the show is hot and tix are gone. I hope they do not make the same mistake of "Jerry Springer" by delaying the announcement of a transfer or reopening it so far after it closes at the Almeida that the momentum gets lost. |
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Nov 2, 2022 10:31:25 GMT
I’m not involved in the decision when to announce.
But personally, and this isn’t based on anything except my own opinion, if I was promoting a show that had people lining up for returns every night, I’d want to encourage them to keep doing that and not go “oh I won’t bother I’ll see it in the West End” and ramp up the anticipation as much as possible. But I don’t work in marketing so I don’t know.
They may also want to tie the announcement with the release of the cast recording.
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Post by shownut on Nov 2, 2022 10:50:32 GMT
I’m not involved in the decision when to announce. But personally, and this isn’t based on anything except my own opinion, if I was promoting a show that had people lining up for returns every night, I’d want to encourage them to keep doing that and not go “oh I won’t bother I’ll see it in the West End” and ramp up the anticipation as much as possible. But I don’t work in marketing so I don’t know. They may also want to tie the announcement with the release of the cast recording. Well, if it hasn't already been recorded that could mean months before an announcement. Common logic is that you would announce a transfer by end of run so you can strike while the iron is still hot. Seeing it Monday and looking forward to it more than I have most shows in recent memory. |
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Nov 2, 2022 11:22:43 GMT
Honestly I’ve said this about six times, do people not believe me or am I just invisible? I’ve been posting about this production for years. Do you believe everything you read on the internet? |
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Nov 2, 2022 11:28:59 GMT
Honestly I’ve said this about six times, do people not believe me or am I just invisible? I’ve been posting about this production for years. Do you believe everything you read on the internet? I make my own mind up about whether someone is legit or not based on their posting history. Surely that’s what most people do? I’ve been a frequent poster here since 2017 and have given insider info (that has later been confirmed) tons of times about various different shows I’ve worked on, or other industry gossip. How many times over the years have I been the one to break the news about some show or casting? Most recently I shared that the NT were doing Othello this winter, before it was announced. I’ve been posting about this show for a long time (look at page 1 of this thread), obviously I’ve been careful what I post and what I don’t post but this show is important to me. |
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Post by Jon on Nov 2, 2022 11:41:20 GMT
I would imagine a transfer will be announced either before or after the Almeida run ends.
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Nov 2, 2022 12:29:06 GMT
Do you believe everything you read on the internet? I make my own mind up about whether someone is legit or not based on their posting history. Surely that’s what most people do? I’ve been a frequent poster here since 2017 and have given insider info (that has later been confirmed) tons of times about various different shows I’ve worked on, or other industry gossip. How many times over the years have I been the one to break the news about some show or casting? Most recently I shared that the NT were doing Othello this winter, before it was announced. I’ve been posting about this show for a long time (look at page 1 of this thread), obviously I’ve been careful what I post and what I don’t post but this show is important to me. Great credentials - excellent leaking! But also given what has been said in the last day or so, we all know that plans can change and things can fall through. So the best policy is for everyone to believe it when they see it? |
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Post by andypandy on Nov 2, 2022 12:32:54 GMT
And people die, covid gets in the way, cast members get fired or get pregnant. Things can get in the way for even booked transfers!
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Post by kathryn on Nov 2, 2022 12:51:58 GMT
I make my own mind up about whether someone is legit or not based on their posting history. Surely that’s what most people do? I’ve been a frequent poster here since 2017 and have given insider info (that has later been confirmed) tons of times about various different shows I’ve worked on, or other industry gossip. How many times over the years have I been the one to break the news about some show or casting? Most recently I shared that the NT were doing Othello this winter, before it was announced. I’ve been posting about this show for a long time (look at page 1 of this thread), obviously I’ve been careful what I post and what I don’t post but this show is important to me. Great credentials - excellent leaking! But also given what has been said in the last day or so, we all know that plans can change and things can fall through. So the best policy is for everyone to believe it when they see it? That’s funny, it looks like you have taken ‘what has been said in the last day or so’ (I assume this is a reference to the pregnancy rumour) at face value, and believed it, even though it has not been confirmed at all. |
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Nov 2, 2022 12:57:31 GMT
And people die, covid gets in the way, cast members get fired or get pregnant. Things can get in the way for even booked transfers! London could get wiped out by a meteor tomorrow. (But we’d still be arguing about which of our new mutated cockroach overlords gave the best Hamlet or something.) Tammy Faye rests so heavily on Katie’s performance I’m sure they would postpone if anything happened to her. So fair point. Anyone else I think would likely be re-cast. |
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Post by Rory on Nov 2, 2022 12:59:48 GMT
If ALW is involved, then maybe they are planning a run at the Gillian Lynne once The Lehman Trilogy finishes in May (if it doesn't extend). Can't see the Adelphi being free any time soon.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 2, 2022 13:06:54 GMT
2 new swings have been announced. Strange thing to do with 4 weeks left. Is this them getting 'west end ready"? I doubt a transfer will be soon. I’ve heard from being at the theatre the other day that someone in the leading cast is pregnant. Elton isn’t too happy but they are “willing to wait”. It gives the creative team time to look at the book and songs and make any cuts or additions following the reviews. Mickey Jo Theatre on You Tube makes some very good comments. How did you hear this ‘from being at the theatre the other day’? Because it seems a little bit extraordinary that private information should be passed on to a random member of the public, and there’s been no indication that you have any special connection to the creative team or cast to have insider info. What gives? |
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Post by Jon on Nov 2, 2022 13:34:43 GMT
If ALW is involved, then maybe they are planning a run at the Gillian Lynne once The Lehman Trilogy finishes in May (if it doesn't extend). Can't see the Adelphi being free any time soon. The Gillian Lynne and the Adelphi would be far too big. I suspect ALW was at Tammy Faye in a personal capacity. The GL probably is eyed for My Neighbour Totoro if that ends up transferring. |
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Post by alicechallice on Nov 2, 2022 13:38:02 GMT
If ALW is involved, then maybe they are planning a run at the Gillian Lynne once The Lehman Trilogy finishes in May (if it doesn't extend). Can't see the Adelphi being free any time soon. The Gillian Lynne and the Adelphi would be far too big. I suspect ALW was at Tammy Faye in a personal capacity. The GL probably is eyed for My Neighbour Totoro if that ends up transferring. His Majesty’s? Oh yes, I went there. |
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Post by shownut on Nov 2, 2022 14:51:26 GMT
If ALW is involved, then maybe they are planning a run at the Gillian Lynne once The Lehman Trilogy finishes in May (if it doesn't extend). Can't see the Adelphi being free any time soon. The Gillian Lynne and the Adelphi would be far too big. I suspect ALW was at Tammy Faye in a personal capacity. The GL probably is eyed for My Neighbour Totoro if that ends up transferring. Given that TAMMY FAYE (from what I heard), has scenes set in television studio, the Gillian Lynne might be ideal as it was....drum roll....a former television studio. And it isn't all that much larger in terms of capacity than other mid-size houses. The Gillian Lynne has 1,024 seats compared to The Phoenix with 1,012 and roughly between 750-800 at the Noel Coward and Harold Pinter. |
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Nov 2, 2022 17:39:00 GMT
Great credentials - excellent leaking! But also given what has been said in the last day or so, we all know that plans can change and things can fall through. So the best policy is for everyone to believe it when they see it? That’s funny, it looks like you have taken ‘what has been said in the last day or so’ (I assume this is a reference to the pregnancy rumour) at face value, and believed it, even though it has not been confirmed at all. Not at face value. it just means we've now got two conflicting anonymous reports. Also why should pregnancy prevent a performer performing! Look at Gina Beck for cripes sake. |
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Post by partytentdown on Nov 2, 2022 18:18:47 GMT
That’s funny, it looks like you have taken ‘what has been said in the last day or so’ (I assume this is a reference to the pregnancy rumour) at face value, and believed it, even though it has not been confirmed at all. Not at face value. it just means we've now got two conflicting anonymous reports. Also why should pregnancy prevent a performer performing! Look at Gina Beck for cripes sake. Well I would imagine they want to contract the leads for at least a year, so somebody leaving part way through that wouldn't be ideal. That said, of the ladies in the cast, personally I think only KB is the only one they couldn't recast for a transfer. The others were good but she is the stand out. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 2, 2022 18:42:49 GMT
I normally enjoy his reviews but I turned off after 10 minutes of this one as there was still another 20 minutes to go and he was just prattling on. Unsubscribed from MJ Theatre yonks ago. Used to be amusing but as usual they start to build an audience, start to get the free tickets because they’ve got an audience and then it all starts to get terribly self indulgent because they forget why people were interested in the first place. |
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 2, 2022 19:07:33 GMT
I normally enjoy his reviews but I turned off after 10 minutes of this one as there was still another 20 minutes to go and he was just prattling on. Unsubscribed from MJ Theatre yonks ago. Used to be amusing but as usual they start to build an audience, start to get the free tickets because they’ve got an audience and then it all starts to get terribly self indulgent because they forget why people were interested in the first place. God yeah I find him pretty obnoxious and unwatchable, keep flagging him so youtube don't recommend him but somehow he still pops up in my recommendations |
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Post by mickeyjotheatre on Nov 2, 2022 22:26:41 GMT
Unsubscribed from MJ Theatre yonks ago. Used to be amusing but as usual they start to build an audience, start to get the free tickets because they’ve got an audience and then it all starts to get terribly self indulgent because they forget why people were interested in the first place. God yeah I find him pretty obnoxious and unwatchable, keep flagging him so youtube don't recommend him but somehow he still pops up in my recommendations Sorry to hear this folks, I try to do my best to convey genuine enthusiasm and passion for theatre in all my videos but I will admit the workload has become a bit overwhelming recently. Also, nobody is under any pressure to watch my videos, don't worry! It's a shame there aren't more critics on YouTube to pick from tbh. And just to be clear, I've been getting press tickets since the start of YouTube. |
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Post by andypandy on Nov 2, 2022 23:21:34 GMT
God yeah I find him pretty obnoxious and unwatchable, keep flagging him so youtube don't recommend him but somehow he still pops up in my recommendations Sorry to hear this folks, I try to do my best to convey genuine enthusiasm and passion for theatre in all my videos but I will admit the workload has become a bit overwhelming recently. Also, nobody is under any pressure to watch my videos, don't worry! It's a shame there aren't more critics on YouTube to pick from tbh. And just to be clear, I've been getting press tickets since the start of YouTube. Do not apologise - I think you are smart, creative, eloquent and wonderful with your funny and informative reviews! Really…. Theatre (and reviews) are subjective. Do NOT be put off by some who disagree with you on some points. Remember Cinderella was awarded tonnes of 5 star reviews but I agree with you that it was mostly a hot mess. PLEAAAAASE continue and don’t stop. Thank you. |
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Post by cezbear on Nov 2, 2022 23:28:31 GMT
Side stepping all awkward talk of bloggers/vloggers to quickly comment on the finale song & awkward bows for this now I've seen it. Why don't they have the cast bow first and then do the final song, so the audience understand what they're meant to be doing?
OR... they literally have that 'Applause' sign, have someone wave it about during the song to make it clear. It's a good final song and a nice touch to have Tammy greet everyone as they come back on, but a shame it's so muddled up with the do we or don't we applaud/are these or aren't they bows confusion!
This one was a 4.5 stars from me, rounding down to 4 because the first two songs were a little weak IMO for opening a show. Katie however is as glorious as everyone has already mentioned, and Zubin Varla frankly phenomenal. Andrew Rannells gives Andrew Rannells as has also already been said, and I happen to enjoy that immensely, but to be fair he doesn't get much to work with to give his character further depth. I don't think.
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