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Post by kathryn on Dec 23, 2022 16:36:35 GMT
I know I read at some point in the last few years that staff at Clarence House have witnessed William screaming at his father, and Charles being as averse to conflict as Her late Majesty, simply takes it meekly. I don't know about William; considering the overload of media abuse his parents took over the years, and the leaks from both sides, I don't blame him for being suspicious, but purposely planting false rumours with different people to test their loyalty, making Kate wait for ten years before finally marrying her, cultivating an affable image when he's temperamental and said to be stubborn as well...why play games with people you supposedly care about? Why test them? Let's say my level of respect for him is below that of his brother or father. At least he is married to someone who is sensible, who's been willing to play the game without appearing to break a sweat. No one asks to be born into that family, but frankly that's not a life I'd want to marry into either. I can't remember where I saw this, could have been social media- but somebody was saying that Kate has been (is currently?) abused by William. Obvs there are so many rumours about the royals but this one surprised me at the time. Giving this thing about William's anger management issues, now that gossip seems more plausible... I would caution that social media tends to run away with itself and exaggerate gossip. There’s no credible reports of anything like ‘abuse’. Affairs, yes, shouting at people, yes. But nothing more than that. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Dec 27, 2022 12:03:43 GMT
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Post by sweets7 on Dec 28, 2022 9:57:22 GMT
But its interesting that they don't go through staff like the Sussexs have in the last few years so it's hard to believe William is some raving aggressive psycho The Cambridges actually went through more staff than the Sussexes did within the same time period, it just didn’t get any press coverage. Many of the Sussex “staff exits” the tabloids made a hoo ha about weren’t even accurate: one major staffer announced her retirement before Meghan joined and agreed to postpone leaving to help Meghan settle in, but the press still implied Meghan drove her out. Two Sussex staffers who “quit” their existing jobs did so because H&M offered them new more senior roles. And the night nanny was only ever going to be a short term thing. The departure of Melissa Touabti (best friend of the infamous Jason Knauf) is shrouded in mystery and intrigue (allegations that she faked her CV - it’s hard to see why a nanny was hired to organise a royal wedding - allegations she was fired for gross misconduct, the fact she was then hired to be a live-in nanny for a billionaire Tory donor whose sister is a Daily Mail journalist, plus her involvement in Knauf’s own scandal). When they were first married Will and Kate had such high staff turnover the tabloids wrote loads of articles about how awful Kate was as a boss, how she was driving staff away, how Carole ruled the household with an iron fist, how Kate and Carole ignored royal protocol. Are people forgetting that? I actually don’t think staff turnover means anything; royals always have crazy high staff turnover because they’re famous for paying very little (the assumption being you work there for the kudos of being around royalty and because it looks good on your CV) and it’s the culture for more minor staff to put in a year or two then use it to leverage their way into a high paid position elsewhere. And there’s always staff change when the head of the household marries or moves. However Kate’s former right hand woman ran to the Daily Mail a few years ago to complain that she’d been fired while on her honeymoon “, with lots of comments about how many “sacrifices” she’d had to make for Kate. Recently Kate’s press secretary left and there are a lot of rumours they had to give her a big settlement for unfair dismissal (she was let go while pregnant). Funny how the press devote little coverage to that but acres of newsprint to “retired woman goes through with retirement.” I genuinely tried to find out about these staff members but couldn’t. Could you point me in the right direction? All I could see was she had one for years, posh girl type and then she got married and left. They had a very young team, while they were young I guess and some dated eachother. Anyway she left and since then she has Uber big shot types that stay about two years each because I guess it’s just getting it on CV. |
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Post by kathryn on Dec 28, 2022 10:43:54 GMT
You won’t find a complete list anywhere - it’s only major appointments/movements that get reported on. No-one normally cares about minor staff changes. It’s only if the press can make a story out of it to suit the slant they want that anyone outside the household will know. Like this one: www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/two-members-kate-middletons-staff-13725624.ampPlenty of senior staff have moved on from positions with Will & Kate (and Charles!) over the years - some of them to other roles connected to them, some for reasons such as having a family, some of them to work for the Sussexes when they split households. Staff movement is normal and expected. It’s turned into a negative story when it’s Harry and Meghan for a reason - which is the point Peter Hunt makes here: |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Dec 28, 2022 11:27:53 GMT
"Kate is looking for her 4th private secretary in five years.
No questions asked"
But kate parades her kids around in 1950's clothes so it's all okay
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Post by Mark on Dec 28, 2022 13:47:46 GMT
Having watched the whole series, it's very clear that there is only one culprit....The Press.
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Post by sweets7 on Dec 28, 2022 15:06:33 GMT
"Kate is looking for her 4th private secretary in five years. No questions asked" But kate parades her kids around in 1950's clothes so it's all okay Can’t see why that matters. They wear very traditional clothes in public. They look pretty normal in their own clothes. She is teaching them to have a uniform. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Dec 28, 2022 15:10:17 GMT
I think the concept 1950's clothes is harking back to a time of the Empire and is not forward looking
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Post by sweets7 on Dec 28, 2022 15:54:59 GMT
I think the concept 1950's clothes is harking back to a time of the Empire and is not forward looking It’s also rather common for children at the moment. I always have numerous girls in my class on mufti who are dressed like P. Charlotte. Less suits for the boys to be fair. |
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Post by kathryn on Dec 28, 2022 18:25:32 GMT
To be honest I really don’t care how anyone dresses their kids, assuming the kids are warm in winter and cool in summer and decently covered...
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Post by lynette on Dec 31, 2022 18:16:15 GMT
"Kate is looking for her 4th private secretary in five years. No questions asked" But kate parades her kids around in 1950's clothes so it's all okay Can’t see why that matters. They wear very traditional clothes in public. They look pretty normal in their own clothes. She is teaching them to have a uniform. Every item she and the children wear sells out immediately. She is aware of that. She favours small designers for the kids and who the hell she likes for herself. Tbh I wish she dressed the children more like everyone else does, T shirts, joggers, yes, nice dresses where appropriate and so on.. but generally not so formally. George in a shirt, tie and jacket at the tennis last summer in a heatwave was painful to watch. I think the Tindells have got it more or less right, haven't they, in many ways. |
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Post by sweets7 on Dec 31, 2022 23:50:57 GMT
Can’t see why that matters. They wear very traditional clothes in public. They look pretty normal in their own clothes. She is teaching them to have a uniform. Every item she and the children wear sells out immediately. She is aware of that. She favours small designers for the kids and who the hell she likes for herself. Tbh I wish she dressed the children more like everyone else does, T shirts, joggers, yes, nice dresses where appropriate and so on.. but generally not so formally. George in a shirt, tie and jacket at the tennis last summer in a heatwave was painful to watch. I think the Tindells have got it more or less right, haven't they, in many ways. At big events their children are dressed pretty much like Charlotte…their son is too young. Same with a peters girls. Mia had a Gucci coat on at Christmas. Any normal photo of the children show them dressed like normal kids |
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Post by sukhavati on Jan 1, 2023 22:11:50 GMT
Every item she and the children wear sells out immediately. She is aware of that. She favours small designers for the kids and who the hell she likes for herself. Tbh I wish she dressed the children more like everyone else does, T shirts, joggers, yes, nice dresses where appropriate and so on.. but generally not so formally. George in a shirt, tie and jacket at the tennis last summer in a heatwave was painful to watch. I think the Tindells have got it more or less right, haven't they, in many ways. At big events their children are dressed pretty much like Charlotte…their son is too young. Same with a peters girls. Mia had a Gucci coat on at Christmas. Any normal photo of the children show them dressed like normal kids The Wales children have different expectations placed on them than the Tindell children. George will be King some day, providing the world doesn't tear itself apart. Think about the media coverage of the Queen's death, with old photographs and films showing her as far back as her infancy. Childhood photos of George are essentially going to be considered historical documents long after we're dust. In choosing traditional clothing for her children, Kate is ensuring that they look timeless. Charlotte's coats and smocked dresses could have been worn by the late Queen herself, and George has been seen in traditional styles worn by his own father; Diana dressed William and Harry in those smocked rompers or shorts and piped shirts for balcony appearances, church days, and photos. At one point, Diana had Catherine Walker make her and the boys coats based on one Charles had worn as a child, and they wore them on Easter. Clearly the current Wales children wear jeans and t-shirts on private time away from school, but we have to consider that those wee people are "on duty" every bit as much as their parents, therefore the family keeps the children's visual image on message. Continuity, tradition, and stability. |
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Post by karloscar on Jan 1, 2023 22:40:23 GMT
At big events their children are dressed pretty much like Charlotte…their son is too young. Same with a peters girls. Mia had a Gucci coat on at Christmas. Any normal photo of the children show them dressed like normal kids The Wales children have different expectations placed on them than the Tindell children. George will be King some day, providing the world doesn't tear itself apart. Think about the media coverage of the Queen's death, with old photographs and films showing her as far back as her infancy. Childhood photos of George are essentially going to be considered historical documents long after we're dust. In choosing traditional clothing for her children, Kate is ensuring that they look timeless. Charlotte's coats and smocked dresses could have been worn by the late Queen herself, and George has been seen in traditional styles worn by his own father; Diana dressed William and Harry in those smocked rompers or shorts and piped shirts for balcony appearances, church days, and photos. At one point, Diana had Catherine Walker make her and the boys coats based on one Charles had worn as a child, and they wore them on Easter. Clearly the current Wales children wear jeans and t-shirts on private time away from school, but we have to consider that those wee people are "on duty" every bit as much as their parents, therefore the family keeps the children's visual image on message. Continuity, tradition, and stability. Yet the Danish royals manage to do all that and look modern and stylish too. Frederik and Mary are so much cooler than the dreary Wales. |
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Post by Jon on Jan 2, 2023 21:13:28 GMT
Tom Bradby is doing an interview with Harry on Sunday.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 2, 2023 23:26:46 GMT
Tom Bradby is doing an interview with Harry on Sunday. Wow. Trailer is pretty hard hitting |
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jan 2, 2023 23:49:23 GMT
Charles just awarded Jason Knauf (the guy who was imposed on Meghan to be her advisor and run her press stuff, who was also Thomas Markle’s press handler, who was busted leaking stuff to the tabloids, came up with the bullying allegation which he also leaked to the press, and worked on behalf of Mail on Sunday in Meghan’s lawsuit against them) “ Lieutenant of the Royal Victorian Order.”
Yeah neither side is going to be on each other’s Christmas card list any time soon.
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Post by Marwood on Jan 3, 2023 11:26:41 GMT
Harry is our version of Kanye: can he not get through a week without whinging to all and sundry while promoting yet another new tv series or book?
If he has issues with his family, he should sort it out in private rather than attention seeking by going public with it. No one’s family life is perfect, he is old enough to realise that.
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Post by londonpostie on Jan 3, 2023 12:05:15 GMT
Victimhood is all they have. It's their only source of income.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 3, 2023 12:53:49 GMT
Harry is our version of Kanye Did you really just do that? |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 3, 2023 13:09:16 GMT
Victimhood is all they have. It's their only source of income. Is called being contracted to do promotional interviews for the product you've been paid to produce. They didn't do a single second of promotion for the Netflix series. You can't blame them for the press and public reaction to everything they do or say, that happens all by itself and has little do with them. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 3, 2023 13:12:57 GMT
Harry is our version of Kanye: can he not get through a week without whinging to all and sundry while promoting yet another new tv series or book? If he has issues with his family, he should sort it out in private rather than attention seeking by going public with it. No one’s family life is perfect, he is old enough to realise that. He he |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 3, 2023 13:13:30 GMT
Harry is our version of Kanye Did you really just do that? It was funny though |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 3, 2023 13:16:40 GMT
Did you really just do that? It was funny though I don't find anything about Kanye West funny. |
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jan 3, 2023 14:27:45 GMT
The royal family went whinging to the press about Meghan about 853,647 times since before she was even married. All they do is leak stories complaining. They were publicly airing dirty laundry (as well as leaking outright lies) about Harry and Meghan for years while H&M were entirely silent and never responded or defended themselves. For years.
How long would you tolerate your own family constantly telling the press all manner of nasty things about you without being allowed to speak?
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