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Post by kathryn on Jan 9, 2020 2:10:06 GMT
As far as I'm concerned they can do what they like, but if they are going to step back completely then that includes ALL of their financial privileges - no more taxpayer-funded security or travel (Or house renovations), no more contribution from either the sovereign grant or the Duchy of Cornwall (the latter is more debateable, but I don't see why it should find upkeep outside working royals - it is only Prince Charles' income because of his position as the Duke, not strictly his money) and they have to find their own way and live off their own money. They’re not going to step back completely, according to the FAQs they’ve put online. They are saying they will continue to do royal duties as requested. They also say that the security arrangements are up to the home office. All private travel they have always funded themselves - it’s only funded by taxpayers when they are working. They’re giving up Sovereign grant money so they can earn professional income - I don’t doubt that they can earn considerably more than what they were getting from it. I get the impression they’d be quite happy to give up royal duties entirely, actually. This may be step 1 of a plan to do that. Oh, and the house renovations would have been done anyway. They were scheduled as part of the historic palace maintenance programme. They paid for the internal decor and furnishings themselves. Seriously think a big part of this is they’re fed up of being told they are ‘spending tax payer money’ when they’re not. They’d rather be earning their own so that people stop calling them scroungers.
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Post by hal9000 on Jan 9, 2020 2:48:23 GMT
The reason why Harry and Meghan posted their statement was to get ahead of The Sun. Someone, probably from the greater Royals camp, had leaked the news to the tabloid.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 9, 2020 7:06:42 GMT
“Queen furious” 😁
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Post by vdcni on Jan 9, 2020 7:20:21 GMT
I've never really understood what Meghan is supposed to have done wrong. I’ve just read their new media policy on their website. Utter madness. Sounds like they’re going to be selling exclusives now. So nothing then.
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Post by duncan on Jan 9, 2020 9:23:49 GMT
I've never really understood what Meghan is supposed to have done wrong. Various American, and I mist stress these are not UK, gossip sites I read have been saying for over a year that she has been leaking stories to US magazines/websites and this seems to have upset the UK hacks who think they should be getting all of the exclusives. UK hacks have essentially doubled down on supporting Kate as she is the one who will still be around* Clearly the Queen doesn't read these same sites as this move was predicted by them months ago. Well played the Prince Henry though for realising, about 30 years before Uncle Andrew did in his cycle, that once the actual heir starts having further heirs then those further down the chain become a complete irrelevance. Maybe he can go and make something of his life outside of the Royal bubble and not become a tedious embarrassment like his Uncle Andrew. * - well maybe
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 9, 2020 9:52:30 GMT
I've never really understood what Meghan is supposed to have done wrong. I’ve just read their new media policy on their website. Utter madness. Sounds like they’re going to be selling exclusives now. Any opinion held by Piers Morgan I feel duty bound to think the complete opposite. What he has described there is... the act of getting married. She hasn't abandoned anybody, it's called growing up, something he could do with doing at some point in his very sad little life.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 9:57:44 GMT
Although some of the press and online stuff went too far, they did bring a lot of the criticism on themselves. Monarchy isnt being a celebrity and if you are going to preach to people you have to back it up by being authentic yourselves. Sadly the patterns of behaviour in Meghan are starting to ring bells with a lot of people. Dropping friends and family as you work your way up, now Harry is being cut off from his family. I hope I'm wrong but anyone who has encountered similar people before can spot the signs. I think it's best for all concerned if they go their own way without the royal tag. Wouldnt surprise me if she acts again within a few years. Never ever understood this "celebrity" canard beyond a nakedly snide way of othering his wife. It's amazing how the parvenu Kate Middleton's rise up the social ladder was never scrutinised in the same vein. Meghan's neither Wallis Simpson or Lady Macbeth. The last time I checked the Duke of Sussex is a fully grown man. If they've decided to pare down on the royal gig, I'm pretty sure he had the casting decision. Regarding dropping her family, I personally wouldn't want to associated with anyone who thinks publishing a highly personal private correspondence is a valid means of reconciling with a loved one. Yes Kate absolutely got treated the same, her and her family, the families company and being 'middle class' were picked apart for years plus the infamous topless photos. As I said Meghan and Harry have had a lot of support, and that's been visible not just what's reported in the press. If they had just worked with the palace and not against it then a balance could have been struck and none of this would have happened. But they seem intent on going against everything without compromise. They have come across as a bit righteous and as often happens, they dont like when people question them I think a lot of people initially felt sorry for Meghan and Harry. But there are two sides to every story and elements of what her family, ex husbands and former friends have suggested potentially are starting to be seen. Like I said, if you've had controlling people in your lives (either directly or indirectly) you can spot patterns. Maybe she is, maybe she isnt, but there are certainly some similarities. Not telling the queen shows an unforgivable lack of respect. Even if you forget shes 'The Queen', she is his grandmother and I would never dream of treating mine in a similar way. And I dont know any who would. Also they want to hand pick the reporters they work with...hmmm..that sounds familiar.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 10:20:17 GMT
So I heard (off salacious anonymous website) that they already have bought a home in LA and after a discrete pause she will return to acting out there. The Americans will LOVE the actress and the prince!
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Post by Kevin on Jan 9, 2020 10:36:26 GMT
Using Piers Morgan as a reliable source is an interesting move..... Can’t stand the man personally, but it is the answer (in part) to the question. Look at how many likes the tweet has - that is suggestive of a public opinion. I’ve nothing against Meghan personally, though I do think they’ve both made things difficult for themselves unnecessarily. This is just my view but it seems that Harry has this sort of blind devotion and is losing himself in his wife and marriage... at the expensive of his relationship with his brother, father and now grandmother. Attempting to take a modern approach and find a position that works within the firm is admirable, but it has to be approved. You can’t respect the traditions of the institution one minute (such as asking the Queen for permission to marry) and then blindside her the next.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jan 9, 2020 10:37:55 GMT
Dropping friends and family as you work your way up, now Harry is being cut off from his family . That was actually proven not to be true. She’s still by all accounts really close to all her maternal family and her old school/college friends (they all attended the wedding and baby shower). The only people she’s become estranged from are her insane father (who she’s been estranged from off and on since she was a teenager) and one woman she briefly worked with who’s been selling her out to the press since she first met Harry.
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Post by Kevin on Jan 9, 2020 10:42:19 GMT
So I heard (off salacious anonymous website) that they already have bought a home in LA and after a discrete pause she will return to acting out there. The Americans will LOVE the actress and the prince! Makes little sense to me. Breaking away to focus on running (not just endorsing) your own charitable endeavours is one thing, taking a step backwards is a total other. They could have been together for years without getting married if she wanted to continue being an actress.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 10:57:24 GMT
So I heard (off salacious anonymous website) that they already have bought a home in LA and after a discrete pause she will return to acting out there. The Americans will LOVE the actress and the prince! Makes little sense to me. Breaking away to focus on running (not just endorsing) your own charitable endeavours is one thing, taking a step backwards is a total other. They could have been together for years without getting married if she wanted to continue being an actress. But think about how much more she will be able to charge now she’s a princess!! A lot of people are saying they are gonna have to give up their HRH so will need a proper income me.....
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 9, 2020 11:00:33 GMT
I think the pair of them come off as hugely entitled and selfish. They could very easily wait until the Queen has gone to pull this one and in the meantime quietly “work to becoming self supporting” so that when they do bugger off to America they’ve got the financial means to cut ties. What theyre doing instead will be incredibly hurtful to the Queen who more than any of them understands what Royal duty means. They’re also cutting ties without apparently having the financial means to do so. So they swan off and do what they want, and we carry on paying for it. As someone said on the radiothis morning, you don’t leave the job and keep the company car.
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Post by kathryn on Jan 9, 2020 11:01:31 GMT
I've never really understood what Meghan is supposed to have done wrong. Various American, and I mist stress these are not UK, gossip sites I read have been saying for over a year that she has been leaking stories to US magazines/websites and this seems to have upset the UK hacks who think they should be getting all of the exclusives. UK hacks have essentially doubled down on supporting Kate as she is the one who will still be around* You have to be wary of the US gossip sites though - very different standards of news gathering in the US due to the difference in libel laws. They can, and do, make stuff up entirely, and very rarely get sued because of it. They will claim everything is from a 'friend close to xxx'. It's extremely difficult to tell what is and is not actually officially sourced and what has been made up out of whole cloth. And obviously some of it has been 'acquired' via nefarious means. It would be very naive to think phone hacking, computer hacking, and 'blagging' is something only done by the UK press. Of course the UK press are frustrated that they have stricter laws to follow - officially. Unofficially we all know that they don't follow them if they think they can get away with it. Traditionally the Royals don't sue because they don't want a hostile relationship with the press. Harry is obviously waging all-out war on them now. It's very much a mistake to rely on media reporting of Megan and Harry's behaviour - the press are inherently biased.
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Post by Kevin on Jan 9, 2020 11:04:18 GMT
Any opinion held by Piers Morgan I feel duty bound to think the complete opposite. What he has described there is... the act of getting married. She hasn't abandoned anybody, it's called growing up, something he could do with doing at some point in his very sad little life. It's widely known she had cut all ties with her family and is only in contact with her mother though. Harry doesn't own her, Meghan isn't a possession that was passed from her father to her husband. She can have a relationship with her family if she choses to do so. Ghosting them isn't the act of getting married at all and frankly isn't what I'd call growing up. Lets not forget that there's now a baby involved in all this that has yet to meet his own grandfather.
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