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Post by edi on Jan 20, 2023 11:24:20 GMT
If you are struggling with your electricity bills and soaring food prices, it's a little hard to sympathise with a whinging super rich couple - their cottage was just too small for them and shock horror some of the furniture came from IKEA
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Post by kathryn on Jan 20, 2023 15:55:54 GMT
On the other hand, sometimes people who are struggling financially quite like finding out that rich people can be miserable despite their wealth.
And it’s not like they were super-wealthy when they lived in Nott Cot. I’m pretty sure most people *were* surprised to hear that a Prince lived in a cottage and not a Palace, and shopped at discount retailers in the sales. It’s just not what people expect.
Royal finances are deeply weird.
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Post by karloscar on Jan 20, 2023 16:05:47 GMT
The late Queen's fondness for cornflakes from a tupperware container and an ancient two bar electric fire for heat was well known for decades. The image of frugality played well as a distraction from all the millions that were wasted on things like hushing up scandals.
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Post by kathryn on Jan 20, 2023 16:51:16 GMT
Yes. And the idea that she walked around Palaces turning lights off. There’s a deep weirdness inherent in financial the set-up- only the monarch and the Prince of Wales have dedicated sources of independent income. They decide what everyone else gets - either from the Sovereign Grant or from the proceeds of their Duchies. ‘Working Royals’ are not permitted to earn their own money - except then you have Princess Anne, who The Queen purchased a ‘private’ estate for en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatcombe_Parkand where commercial events are held. So Anne does have a private source of income to at least partly pay for the maintenance of her lifestyle and that of her family, which was gifted to her by The Queen. Andrew is notoriously without known independent income, and yet somehow could afford to pay £7.5 million to renovate Royal Lodge and buy its 75 year lease en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_LodgeNot to mention the Swiss Chalet and the infamous pay-off. Edward also paid a very substantial amount from ‘private funds’ for his lease on Bagshot Park. Some of these private funds were surely inherited money - but as Royal wills are not made public no-one actually knows who inherited what. We do now know that Harry didn’t inherit from his mother until he turned 30. It must have been quite a surprise to The Queen that such a fuss was made about Frogmore Cottage, considering the family’s history of arranging accommodation for its spares.
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Post by edi on Jan 20, 2023 17:14:50 GMT
On the other hand, sometimes people who are struggling financially quite like finding out that rich people can be miserable despite their wealth. . Precisely and that's one of the reasons I suspect the book is selling well
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Post by sweets7 on Jan 22, 2023 8:27:25 GMT
On the other hand, sometimes people who are struggling financially quite like finding out that rich people can be miserable despite their wealth. . Precisely and that's one of the reasons I suspect the book is selling well The book is selling well because it’s gossip about the worlds most famous family.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 22, 2023 11:17:36 GMT
And because it had a multimillion dollar marketing campaign paid for by Netflix.
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Post by mkb on Jan 22, 2023 11:52:05 GMT
Ironically, the greater part of the publicity has come free of charge from the media frothing at the mouth.
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Post by londonpostie on Jan 22, 2023 12:30:36 GMT
Nothing is free when you live by the media. Ask the kids in 20 years.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jan 22, 2023 15:49:24 GMT
Exactly. The way the Cambridge children have been exploited in the media since birth is shameful. The media started to push this invented narrative that George is the mature well-behaved one, and Charlotte and Louis the naughty wilful ones, when they were still very young. It’s only a matter of time before Charlotte becomes the new Harry and the tabloids earn a fortune by making up stories about what a wild child teen she is (and the inevitable “showing off her leggy pins” stories - if they have decency they might wait till she’s 16) and demonising her to make George look good. None of those kids will ever know privacy, since the royal deal is the children belong at least partly to the press.
Thank god the Sussex kids are out of it, where the British tabloids can’t stalk them.
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Post by sweets7 on Jan 22, 2023 23:05:34 GMT
Nothing is free when you live by the media. Ask the kids in 20 years. Grace Kelly’s kids. Served on a platter to the media. In fairness, I don’t think they realised what they were doing.
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Post by sweets7 on Jan 22, 2023 23:09:27 GMT
Exactly. The way the Cambridge children have been exploited in the media since birth is shameful. The media started to push this invented narrative that George is the mature well-behaved one, and Charlotte and Louis the naughty wilful ones, when they were still very young. It’s only a matter of time before Charlotte becomes the new Harry and the tabloids earn a fortune by making up stories about what a wild child teen she is (and the inevitable “showing off her leggy pins” stories - if they have decency they might wait till she’s 16) and demonising her to make George look good. None of those kids will ever know privacy, since the royal deal is the children belong at least partly to the press. Thank god the Sussex kids are out of it, where the British tabloids can’t stalk them. While I cannot disagree that they way the media treat women is despicable, I cannot agree those children are overexposed. They are raiding them out of the limelight. Now the way William and Harry were raised. I mean did anyone expect them to be half normal. Bea and Eug either. Both of them are both absolutely grounded. Or so it seems. Better parenting. No tradegy in childhood.
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Post by lynette on Jan 25, 2023 14:02:39 GMT
I do hope those kids are able to choose their own lives. The media will pursue them for sure.
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Post by NorthernAlien on Jan 25, 2023 14:11:00 GMT
I do hope those kids are able to choose their own lives. The media will pursue them for sure. The problem is the very distinctive names though, I think? Like, even just the surname 'Mountbatten-Windsor' invites questions from anyone who doesn't instantly recognise it, and the girl is named 'Lilibet', which is a lovely touching honour to Harry's granny, but, certainly in a British Comprehensive school would lead to years of bullying. And the middle name of Diana doesn't offer much relief, I don't think? Almost impossible to just shrink into the background with monikers *so* google-able.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jan 25, 2023 15:07:35 GMT
But they don't live in Britain? Even if they did, there's no way any royal is going to a state comp. They'd go to a posh school stuffed full of aristos, rubbing shoulders with kids named things like Artemis Cholmondeley-Plantagenet. I went to a state comp in a fairly posh part of London, and there were quite a few double-barrelled and unusual names, no bullying.
The'll end up at some posh private school in California with children of movie stars who are all named things like Pomegranate and Delaware. Or ∞=兀x2. Maybe just going by Archie Windsor and Lili Windsor, and be teased because their names are too boring and commonplace.
Anyway, surely worries about the media pursuing the children refer to the Cambridge children (who are public figures, are frequently photographed and trotted out at public events, will be expected to take on increasing public duties as they get older, and on whom the media are already thrusting manufactured personas and narratives) and not the Sussex children (who live thousands of miles away, are private citizens, and are barely ever papped)?
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Post by intoanewlife on Jan 27, 2023 16:22:37 GMT
If you are struggling with your electricity bills and soaring food prices, it's a little hard to sympathise with a whinging super rich couple - their cottage was just too small for them and shock horror some of the furniture came from IKEA Nice try, but I wonder how they feel about the 369 million pound Buck Pal renovations that are happening now and not something from 10 years ago...
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Post by sukhavati on Jan 28, 2023 6:06:04 GMT
On the other hand, sometimes people who are struggling financially quite like finding out that rich people can be miserable despite their wealth. This is exactly why shows like "Dallas" and "Dynasty" were so popular back in the day.
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Post by londonpostie on Mar 18, 2023 15:00:18 GMT
So, what do we make of the 'We Want Privacy' worldwide tour, as seen on South Park. On the back of this, it's suggested their polling in the US has sunk below the evergreen Prince Andrew. I would start a new thread with a poll but ... anyway, is South Park racist!!!! or are they fair game and a laughing stock?
You only get those two choices, I'm afraid. It's Internet rulz.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 18, 2023 15:41:19 GMT
I thought the SP episode was very funny in parts. Not great writing though as it appeared to be disjointed.
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Post by londonpostie on Mar 18, 2023 16:21:40 GMT
If we're talking about the same thing, the Youtube version, purporting to be a full episode, is chopped up with other episodes to get past the copyright.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 18, 2023 16:56:26 GMT
I like them. Southpark and Harry and Meghan
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