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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 1, 2022 6:54:29 GMT
Let’s hope this is better!
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Post by ladidah on Jun 1, 2022 8:22:49 GMT
What a great photo
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Post by Sam on Jun 24, 2022 14:24:12 GMT
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Post by anthony40 on Jun 24, 2022 14:29:48 GMT
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Post by inthenose on Jun 24, 2022 16:10:15 GMT
Much more hopeful for this one...
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Post by anthony40 on Jun 24, 2022 16:36:16 GMT
This is one of four photographs on Douglas Hodges's twitter page
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Post by anthony40 on Jun 24, 2022 19:52:06 GMT
I wonder if any of the canine characters are singing? Or if it’s just the humans?
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Post by Sam on Jun 24, 2022 21:25:41 GMT
I wonder if any of the canine characters are singing? Or if it’s just the humans? From the other photos in the article I'd say the dogs sing too since some of the people singing have tails on.
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Post by jacob on Jul 13, 2022 0:01:56 GMT
was anyone there tonight? Would love to hear opinions on the show
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Post by jacob on Jul 13, 2022 0:06:35 GMT
the set ..
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 13, 2022 0:15:56 GMT
That's where the budget for this year has gone.
V shiny
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Post by fiyerorocher on Jul 13, 2022 0:17:14 GMT
First preview was changed to an open dress rehearsal an hour and a half before the show started (informed via text). I didn't particularly care but the people behind me in the queue were complaining about the lack of notice they were given. They did refund everyone 50% of their ticket price and offer exchanges if people preferred, so I don't really see the problem. The performance itself didn't feel any different than a regular preview. They clearly had not had time to rehearse any bows, though. As for the show itself - it was cute. Loved the puppets. Nice to see dog characters portrayed at the Open Air in a way that wasn't traumatising. The attempts to modernise the story mostly worked, with the (admittedly big) exception of Cruella. She's an 'influencer' and makes lots of already dated jokes. Kids won't understand half of them and adults won't appreciate them either. They also liken her hatred of dogs to racism several times in ways that are super uncomfortable. If those aren't gone by opening night, someone is making a huge mistake. Can't say I was blown away by most of the songs, but there is a beautiful one in act 2 that admittedly screws with the pacing but also made me cry so I sort of don't want them to get rid of it even if they maybe should. There were some big issues with sound - mics not being turned on in time, and also words being incredibly hard to hear when groups of people were singing together. But ultimately they were self-admittedly not ready to open, so it would be harsh to judge them too terribly for that. Hopefully the issues get ironed out. The four kids did an incredible job. {Spoiler - click to view} Oh and the real puppy at the end is absolutely adorable.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 13, 2022 5:54:42 GMT
Cruella being an influencer has immediately made me NOT want to see this.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 13, 2022 6:27:14 GMT
The attempts to modernise the story mostly worked, with the (admittedly big) exception of Cruella. She's an 'influencer' and makes lots of already dated jokes. Kids won't understand half of them and adults won't appreciate them either. They also liken her hatred of dogs to racism several times in ways that are super uncomfortable. If those aren't gone by opening night, someone is making a huge mistake. This sounds absolutely dreadful. Why can’t they just put Dodie Smith’s timeless story on stage without feeling the need to mess about with it? What are the costumes like?
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Post by anthony40 on Jul 13, 2022 7:46:23 GMT
I am there on Sat 6th Aug
(to the weather Gods, please DON'T rain!)
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Post by singingbird on Jul 13, 2022 10:28:47 GMT
The attempts to modernise the story mostly worked, with the (admittedly big) exception of Cruella. She's an 'influencer' and makes lots of already dated jokes. Kids won't understand half of them and adults won't appreciate them either. They also liken her hatred of dogs to racism several times in ways that are super uncomfortable. If those aren't gone by opening night, someone is making a huge mistake. This sounds absolutely dreadful. Why can’t they just put Dodie Smith’s timeless story on stage without feeling the need to mess about with it? 100% agree. I was tempted to book for this and now I almost certainly won't. I don't know why producers are often so scared of just making something timeless and magical.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 11:24:16 GMT
Why do producers and directors think
A) everything needs to be modernised. Growing up I didn't need older shows or movies etc modernised, I was quite capable of understanding different periods etc.
B) that doing so means setting everything in the present day with in jokes and references that actually just date it really quickly.
The open air modernised On the Town a few years back and did so brilliantly, all they needed to do was have a diverse cast and the addition of the two male sailors in the ballet section. Small changes but made it relevant while still keeping it suitable for the piece itself.
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Post by fiyerorocher on Jul 13, 2022 11:24:56 GMT
The attempts to modernise the story mostly worked, with the (admittedly big) exception of Cruella. She's an 'influencer' and makes lots of already dated jokes. Kids won't understand half of them and adults won't appreciate them either. They also liken her hatred of dogs to racism several times in ways that are super uncomfortable. If those aren't gone by opening night, someone is making a huge mistake. This sounds absolutely dreadful. Why can’t they just put Dodie Smith’s timeless story on stage without feeling the need to mess about with it? What are the costumes like? Nothing to write home about. Ensemble are all in black and white with lots of polka dots. Cruella's outfits look a little cheap and are mostly underwhelming, considering her character. I think Cruella, her two nephews, and Danielle and Dominic were the only human characters who got to wear colour? The animal costumes are done pretty well. The main ones are puppets, but others are not and they did a lot better with them than Legally Blonde. Not that that's hard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 11:28:43 GMT
This sounds absolutely dreadful. Why can’t they just put Dodie Smith’s timeless story on stage without feeling the need to mess about with it? What are the costumes like? Nothing to write home about. Ensemble are all in black and white with lots of polka dots. Cruella's outfits look a little cheap and are mostly underwhelming, considering her character. I think Cruella, her two nephews, and Danielle and Dominic were the only human characters who got to wear colour? The animal costumes are done pretty well. The main ones are puppets, but others are not and they did a lot better with them than Legally Blonde. Not that that's hard. To paraphrase the devil wears prada 'Black and white dots for a production about Dalmatians, groundbreaking'
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Post by fiyerorocher on Jul 13, 2022 11:37:37 GMT
While Cruella being an influencer is indeed super cringey and all of the jokes are primed to need rewriting on a weekly basis to stay even vaguely relevant (I counted two about Boris Johnson stepping down as PM), the most difficult to sit through was definitely the comparisons of Cruella hating dogs to racism. There's a whole part where she's listening to a podcast? video? (it wasn't totally clear) where they're talking to Cruella (who has gone viral for hitting Pongo and Perdi with a stick (and to give you a flavour of the jokes: Cruella refers to herself as having 'big stick energy'...)) and they say she wants 'cross breed pedigrees to carry papers proving their heritage' and claim they're a threat to the healthcare system. 'If we must have dogs, let's have British dogs for British people.'... She's also written a book called something like 'A Return to Black and White Values' that she's trying to promote. They interview people who support Cruella and talk about how the streets aren't safe anymore because of all the dogs. It's just super uncomfortable to listen to.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 13, 2022 11:47:13 GMT
Who wrote this load of cobblers?
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Post by sph on Jul 13, 2022 12:03:40 GMT
While Cruella being an influencer is indeed super cringey and all of the jokes are primed to need rewriting on a weekly basis to stay even vaguely relevant (I counted two about Boris Johnson stepping down as PM), the most difficult to sit through was definitely the comparisons of Cruella hating dogs to racism. There's a whole part where she's listening to a podcast? video? (it wasn't totally clear) where they're talking to Cruella (who has gone viral for hitting Pongo and Perdi with a stick (and to give you a flavour of the jokes: Cruella refers to herself as having 'big stick energy'...)) and they say she wants 'cross breed pedigrees to carry papers proving their heritage' and claim they're a threat to the healthcare system. 'If we must have dogs, let's have British dogs for British people.'... She's also written a book called something like 'A Return to Black and White Values' that she's trying to promote. They interview people who support Cruella and talk about how the streets aren't safe anymore because of all the dogs. It's just super uncomfortable to listen to. Oh dear lord! It's like they shoehorned an entirely different story in there! This sounds absolutely dreadful.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jul 13, 2022 12:08:53 GMT
Are they using the book or the Disney names?
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Post by catcat100 on Jul 13, 2022 12:11:18 GMT
Was also there last night and do agree with a lot of what Fiyero says.
There are a few songs which are good and was humming a couple on the tube home but there are also a few particularly in the first half which aren't great. The excellent sad song in the middle of act 2 needs to remain as it bonds you even more to the dogs. There's a good East End feel to a number of the songs and in fact the whole musical has a definite London feel and not a Broadway extravaganza.
The dogs, especially the puppies are great and their singing and dancing works well. The adult dogs are a bit strange at first with two adults but you get used to it particularly when it gets dark and the second adult blends in. The puppies in a cage is quite inspired, showing both the cruelty of Cruella and the cuteness of the dogs. The finale is full on puppy heaven.
The big issue though is Cruella. She's not terrible, there's just a few bits that just don't land. I like that we see her journey from influencer to full on nasty bitch and there is certainly some parallels with a number of real life right wing individuals although not overtly so.
Her first half songs don't really land that well, particularly the first half finale which needs work visually to get the right feel. She has a big song in the second half where you finally believe in the character. Really didn't like her wigs and feel the iconic 50/50 black/white split should be used.
Overall, there's a Good musical in there, one that I feel could easily be quite big, enjoyed by Young and old, could handle touring and a solid summer/xmas staple. But it needs changes to pace up the First half and settle the second.
But that's just from a public dress rehearsal, so hopefully the necessary changes will be made and it becomes the musical it can be.
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Post by ceebee on Jul 13, 2022 12:34:45 GMT
Am looking forward to this on Saturday. Sounds like it has the makings of a good show based on the early feedback.
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