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Post by steviepbadger on Jun 21, 2021 12:57:16 GMT
Oh I’ve just had mine through and still booked for this Friday! And I’ve also been moved forward 2 rows. I’ve just been rescheduled for July. Such a shame! |
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Post by amp09 on Jun 21, 2021 13:30:38 GMT
Oh I’ve just had mine through and still booked for this Friday! And I’ve also been moved forward 2 rows. I’ve just been rescheduled for July. Such a shame! Oh no! What date were you booked? I’m booked for 15th July, so guessing I’ll be one of the last to hear. |
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Post by steviepbadger on Jun 21, 2021 13:36:38 GMT
I’ve just been rescheduled for July. Such a shame! Oh no! What date were you booked? I’m booked for 15th July, so guessing I’ll be one of the last to hear. I was booked in for this Friday. I’ve been moved to a Sunday, which LWTheatres say is a Saturday! |
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Post by danb on Jun 21, 2021 13:47:10 GMT
Apparently ALW stands by it being a Saturday and will take anyone who says otherwise to court , before backing down at the last minute.
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Post by singingbird on Jun 21, 2021 14:07:58 GMT
So... as far as my memory serves, there has never been an ALW musical since Joseph that hasn't featured at least one melody we haven't heard somewhere before. The only possible exception is Starlight - obviously one of the melodies had been previously released as Engine of Love, but as that was arguably the genesis of the whole project, I'd say that doesn't count.
Is anyone planning up for playing 'Spot the Tune' in Cinderella, or do we think this will be the exception to the rule?!
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Post by steve10086 on Jun 21, 2021 15:24:07 GMT
So... as far as my memory serves, there has never been an ALW musical since Joseph that hasn't featured at least one melody we haven't heard somewhere before. The only possible exception is Starlight - obviously one of the melodies had been previously released as Engine of Love, but as that was arguably the genesis of the whole project, I'd say that doesn't count. Is anyone planning up for playing 'Spot the Tune' in Cinderella, or do we think this will be the exception to the rule?! There’s a version of “On This Night Of A Thousand Stars” by Tony Christie that has a snippet of the Starlight Express title track in it. Also “Next Time You Fall In Love” was ripped from Cricket, but that’s not publicly available. |
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Post by max on Jun 21, 2021 16:59:51 GMT
Then Steve that's 3 appearances for "Next Time You Fall In Love" - as, in the weirdest and cleverest (and most disguised) bit of recycling, it's the same tune as "The Ballad Of Billy MacCaw" from CATS.
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Post by maskoftragedy on Jun 21, 2021 17:55:21 GMT
Got my email and I'm still going to the first preview after all, and have been moved by just one seat to the side so I'm really pleased. I've never seen a literal brand new show before so I'm really excited about that aspect of going.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2021 17:56:52 GMT
I only recently discovered that some of the tune of 'Tyre Tracks and Broken Hearts' had been reused from the song 'English Girls' from the Broadway version of Song and Dance.
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Post by inthenose on Jun 21, 2021 18:08:39 GMT
Got my email and I'm still going to the first preview after all, and have been moved by just one seat to the side so I'm really pleased. I've never seen a literal brand new show before so I'm really excited about that aspect of going. It can be very exciting and I'm sure you'll have a great time, just the experience of it alone! I would say, based only on my experience, to definitely keep in mind that a first preview for big technically challenging shows can be quite rough. I'm sure the director will give a little speech reminding the audience of this before curtain up, as is common nowadays. Shows I've done, we are always rehearsing until the very minute (every second counts) the doors are open to the public, then have notes again afterwards, then rehearsing all the next day and so on. I've opened with big, expensive shows where we have never had a rehearsal without show stops. A clean first preview is a pipe dream for a brand new multi million pound work. They can run very long, especially if they stop or take a long interval, so factor this into your journeys and last train home, etc. Don't get caught having to leave midway through the second Act, as I had to do seeing an early preview of Gone With the Wind. I was told by a friend in the show, that performance was over 4 hours in the end... One last thing, I find it fun personally to try and note down a rough plot guidelines and songs on the train home while I remember them, as inevitably numbers will be cut, scenes changed around and whatnot. It's fun to compare if you decide to see it again when it is opened. |
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Post by stuartmcd on Jun 21, 2021 18:12:57 GMT
Yeah I’m really hoping that considering they have been rehearsing in the actual theatre since the beginning that the show should run pretty smoothly. I think Carrie has also mentioned that they have had a pretty good amount of time to tech the show so hopefully we won’t experience too many preview problems.
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Post by singingbird on Jun 21, 2021 18:16:22 GMT
So... as far as my memory serves, there has never been an ALW musical since Joseph that hasn't featured at least one melody we haven't heard somewhere before. The only possible exception is Starlight - obviously one of the melodies had been previously released as Engine of Love, but as that was arguably the genesis of the whole project, I'd say that doesn't count. Is anyone planning up for playing 'Spot the Tune' in Cinderella, or do we think this will be the exception to the rule?! There’s a version of “On This Night Of A Thousand Stars” by Tony Christie that has a snippet of the Starlight Express title track in it. Also “Next Time You Fall In Love” was ripped from Cricket, but that’s not publicly available. Oh yes - you're right. There is. I had totally forgotten that! I knew there had to be something!! Okay, so there isn't, one single show by ALW, apart from his first performed musical, that doesn't feature at least one snippet of previously released music. Oh no! hang on! I'm going to correct myself. Joseph has the fanfare bit from the song Probably on Thursday, doesn't it?! I'm not critical of this, btw. Sometimes it takes a while for a tune to find its home. But I do think that, if the melody has appeared somewhere pretty prominent already, it seems strange to reuse it! |
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Post by singingbird on Jun 21, 2021 18:18:10 GMT
Then Steve that's 3 appearances for "Next Time You Fall In Love" - as, in the weirdest and cleverest (and most disguised) bit of recycling, it's the same tune as "The Ballad Of Billy MacCaw" from CATS. AMAZING spot! I had never noticed that, and I'm usually pretty good at these. Funny thing - I love Billy MacCaw, and I can't stand Next Time You Fall In Love. But - you're right - it's the same tune. |
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Post by inthenose on Jun 21, 2021 18:21:04 GMT
There used to be a little outro at the end of "Hosanna" in JCS, which is identical to a line in "Notes 1" from Phantom. "The diva's a disaster .."
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Post by alison on Jun 21, 2021 19:09:20 GMT
Fingers crossed we don't have too many issues - my last train home is 11:30 from Euston so if it runs to four hours I'll need to leave!  I'm also very excited to be at the first preview of a brand new show. I've been at several first previews of US transfers, but the only other time I've been at a new one was part two of Cursed Child (having picked up the ticket from someone on here who was at part one but then couldn't make part two). |
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Post by Peter on Jun 21, 2021 21:04:22 GMT
There used to be a little outro at the end of "Hosanna" in JCS, which is identical to a line in "Notes 1" from Phantom. "The diva's a disaster .." I always thought that was the bit from Joseph: “Anyone from anywhere can make it if they get a lucky break”! |
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Post by Seriously on Jun 21, 2021 21:29:03 GMT
"Anything but Lonely" from Aspects....
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Post by inthenose on Jun 21, 2021 21:32:27 GMT
There used to be a little outro at the end of "Hosanna" in JCS, which is identical to a line in "Notes 1" from Phantom. "The diva's a disaster .." I always thought that was the bit from Joseph: “Anyone from anywhere can make it if they get a lucky break”! Wow, a threesome! |
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Post by Seriously on Jun 21, 2021 21:39:11 GMT
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Post by Seriously on Jun 21, 2021 21:43:03 GMT
"Ev'ry time I look at you I don't understand..."
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Post by max on Jun 21, 2021 22:48:51 GMT
Then Steve that's 3 appearances for "Next Time You Fall In Love" - as, in the weirdest and cleverest (and most disguised) bit of recycling, it's the same tune as "The Ballad Of Billy MacCaw" from CATS. AMAZING spot! I had never noticed that, and I'm usually pretty good at these. Funny thing - I love Billy MacCaw, and I can't stand Next Time You Fall In Love. But - you're right - it's the same tune. I can't claim it - read it somewhere else; was a bit of a 'wow' to me as I would never have noticed, but there it was. I really like the fact, and it's a great one for composition students or an anecdote for a compilation show - how feel and time signature transform something. Billy McCaw in 3/4 or 6/8 and Next Time in 4/4. While we're spotting, I'll add: A single line of 'Don't Cry For Me Argentina' is in JCS just before the words "You're a fool Jesus Christ'" in the trial. & 'Summer Day' from Jeeves is 'Another Suitcase..." "Summer Day, hark the sound of the plover" / "So what happens now, another suitcase in another hall" |
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Post by max on Jun 21, 2021 22:55:06 GMT
Also, while we're spotting, keep a look out in CINDERELLA, as there's an animal that gets name checked in the lyrics of 3 very different ALW musicals, suggesting his obsession isn't with cats after all.....
Will it turn up in a 4th, and what is it?
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jun 21, 2021 23:04:35 GMT
I had a thread a few days ago where Steve helped me find this matching pair.
I'm now going to be trying to think of animals that have featured in Lloyd Webber lyrics!
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Post by magnificentdonkey on Jun 21, 2021 23:13:44 GMT
Will it turn up in a 4th, and what is it? A sheep is mentioned in the lyrics of three different ALW shows! |
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Post by max on Jun 21, 2021 23:30:50 GMT
Will it turn up in a 4th, and what is it? A sheep is mentioned in the lyrics of three different ALW shows! Not the one I was thinking of. But for sheep I can think of mentions in 'Joseph' and in the title song of 'Starlight Express'. Don't know about the 3rd, unless it's in 'The Wizard Of Oz' on the farm?? |
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