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Post by fiyerorocher on Oct 12, 2021 22:53:08 GMT
Has anyone seen an understudy for the Stepmother? I'm curious to know if they go quite as Full On, or if it's a little more scaled back? (I'm kind of hoping it's more scaled back...)
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Post by hairspray57 on Oct 12, 2021 22:55:48 GMT
The Telegraph has posted a comment piece defending people criticising the use of a understudy.
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Post by marob on Oct 12, 2021 23:02:32 GMT
Has anyone seen an understudy for the Stepmother? I'm curious to know if they go quite as Full On, or if it's a little more scaled back? (I'm kind of hoping it's more scaled back...) I’ve wondered that myself, though I loved VHB’s stepmother, she easily got all the biggest laughs. Wouldn’t be surprised if the role is stunt cast with someone off Drag Race in the future. |
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Post by cezbear on Oct 13, 2021 8:03:44 GMT
I've seen the stepmother 1st cover, though I understand the 2nd cover has also been on... I can't speak to the 2nd cover but the 1st, does the same voice/mannerisms, so I assume that's the 'template' for the role now. She was very good, though VHB is special.
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Post by lolalou on Oct 13, 2021 11:43:59 GMT
The Telegraph has posted a comment piece defending people criticising the use of a understudy. Do you have a link or screenshot please? |
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Post by interval99 on Oct 13, 2021 12:14:56 GMT
Interval Reminding myself that I paid too much money for this ticket to leave now and that it's hard to imagine second part could be worst. At least it will be shorter I hope. Cast all singing fine on top form and the only thing making this bearable. The are pantomimes across the land this Christmas which will knock this out the water. So sad that the man who has brought so many musical high marks considered this worthy. So to be fair part two is more bearable mainly as it becomes more of a spectacle at times but the story gets even more muddled and characters change motivation almost mid sentence. It's not a book you need to rip apart it's falls apart while watching the show. The seats moving while effective does cause havoc for blocking or even trying to follow who is the focus at any time. As the cast off the stage do a fair bit in the stalls gangways I would presume you miss a fair bit in the circle. The set design , costumes are a visual feast and the wide arc of the theatre is used to full effect. The bland music is well played and again all the cast are going full pelt to make the show work. But with a score which seems like the same four refrain replayed , lyrics are a joke even when they are not meant to be. It's a huge disappointment and quite forgettable. |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Oct 13, 2021 12:22:53 GMT
Having sat in the circle - you don't miss anything of importance from the ball scene. If you sit on one side then you miss the first moment of Cinderella's entrance, but that's the same for that half of the stalls.
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Post by interval99 on Oct 13, 2021 12:28:50 GMT
One of the hardest items to understand about the Cinderella show is the original concept album does get a lot of support.
On a Broadway forum several members say they are looking forward to the show based on hearing it
But when seeing the show the score while well played was no better than lift music and only bad Cinderella and I know I have a heart lines are remembered mainly as they are repeated so much.
I know the album is concept and several changes have been made but it really does not seemed to have transferred to a show very well.
Do people think the current version will be the one which gets to Broadway. ( While the west end version got the reviews you can seemly get a good choice of seats on the day) or they may aim to go back to the better received album version.
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Post by shady23 on Oct 13, 2021 12:38:13 GMT
Has anyone seen an understudy for the Stepmother? I'm curious to know if they go quite as Full On, or if it's a little more scaled back? (I'm kind of hoping it's more scaled back...) Yes I saw Michelle Bishop. I haven't seen Victoria so cannot really compare but I have heard the cast recording since and I would have had no clue I had seen an understudy if I hadn't seen the cast board as they sing in a similar way. She was really good. |
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Post by Oliver on Oct 13, 2021 13:01:01 GMT
One of the hardest items to understand about the Cinderella show is the original concept album does get a lot of support. On a Broadway forum several members say they are looking forward to the show based on hearing it But when seeing the show the score while well played was no better than lift music and only bad Cinderella and I know I have a heart lines are remembered mainly as they are repeated so much. I know the album is concept and several changes have been made but it really does not seemed to have transferred to a show very well. Do people think the current version will be the one which gets to Broadway. ( While the west end version got the reviews you can seemly get a good choice of seats on the day) or they may aim to go back to the better received album version. Your comments on the music offer no insight at all. That you think this does not make it so. |
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Post by shady23 on Oct 13, 2021 13:11:04 GMT
Well I must be a fan of "lift music" then because I love the soundtrack and have played it loads after seeing the show.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2021 14:14:50 GMT
One of the hardest items to understand about the Cinderella show is the original concept album does get a lot of support. On a Broadway forum several members say they are looking forward to the show based on hearing it But when seeing the show the score while well played was no better than lift music and only bad Cinderella and I know I have a heart lines are remembered mainly as they are repeated so much. I know the album is concept and several changes have been made but it really does not seemed to have transferred to a show very well. Do people think the current version will be the one which gets to Broadway. ( While the west end version got the reviews you can seemly get a good choice of seats on the day) or they may aim to go back to the better received album version. Your comments on the music offer no insight at all. That you think this does not make it so. But it does make it so, for them… because that’s their opinion about the show they saw. You are welcome to your opinion, and they are too. |
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Post by hairspray57 on Oct 13, 2021 14:19:51 GMT
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Post by christya on Oct 13, 2021 15:27:51 GMT
Definitely hacked off with the Gillian Lynne today. Supposed to be sitting in one of the nice single seats at the back of the stalls this week, only now they say they need me to move 'across the aisle' because they want an usher to sit in that seat during the revolve. I've had this ticket booked for months, they tell me days before I'm supposed to go. So now instead of having a single seat with plenty of room, so if I get a tall person in front I can move about, I'm stuck next to someone despite having booked to make sure it didn't happen. If my train wasn't already booked, I'd have asked for a refund.
And that's without starting on the fact that as there was evidently a free seat 'across the aisle' the usher could have just sat there without the need to move me. Sounds like they just pick the single because of course single theatregoers can be shuffled around whenever they damn well please. Not the first time I've been moved for someone else's convenience.
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Post by happytobehere on Oct 13, 2021 16:01:26 GMT
Definitely hacked off with the Gillian Lynne today. Supposed to be sitting in one of the nice single seats at the back of the stalls this week, only now they say they need me to move 'across the aisle' because they want an usher to sit in that seat during the revolve. I've had this ticket booked for months, they tell me days before I'm supposed to go. So now instead of having a single seat with plenty of room, so if I get a tall person in front I can move about, I'm stuck next to someone despite having booked to make sure it didn't happen. If my train wasn't already booked, I'd have asked for a refund. And that's without starting on the fact that as there was evidently a free seat 'across the aisle' the usher could have just sat there without the need to move me. Sounds like they just pick the single because of course single theatregoers can be shuffled around whenever they damn well please. Not the first time I've been moved for someone else's convenience. That sucks, I’ve been there before. I’ve been moved before and, like you, I booked a seat specifically so that my view (as a short person) wouldn’t be impeded. I kicked up quite a fuss over email and though they didn’t move me back but I did get a £40 voucher for a future show. Though this was through ATG, so it might be different. I think it would be worth a go if you want to kick up a fuss though! |
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Post by fiyero on Oct 13, 2021 16:05:39 GMT
Definitely hacked off with the Gillian Lynne today. Supposed to be sitting in one of the nice single seats at the back of the stalls this week, only now they say they need me to move 'across the aisle' because they want an usher to sit in that seat during the revolve. I've had this ticket booked for months, they tell me days before I'm supposed to go. So now instead of having a single seat with plenty of room, so if I get a tall person in front I can move about, I'm stuck next to someone despite having booked to make sure it didn't happen. If my train wasn't already booked, I'd have asked for a refund. And that's without starting on the fact that as there was evidently a free seat 'across the aisle' the usher could have just sat there without the need to move me. Sounds like they just pick the single because of course single theatregoers can be shuffled around whenever they damn well please. Not the first time I've been moved for someone else's convenience. I've wondered about those seats. At the early preview I saw the usher was there and I wasn't sure if it was just until they got used to things or permanent. I wonder where they would have moved you if there wasn't a nearby vacant seat. |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Oct 13, 2021 16:08:08 GMT
I think it was possibly an error that put those seats on sale, as I don't think they're technically supposed to be available for the public. They're no longer even visible on the seating plan on the website when you're booking. Someone definitely should have noticed and got in touch sooner, though.
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Post by christya on Oct 13, 2021 16:33:59 GMT
The extra annoying thing is that mine was one of the rescheduled shows, so a box office person has already looked at the booking and rebooked me into the same seat. Dire organisation, really. I'm half inclined to make a fuss, but I'm also inherently lazy so it probably won't happen.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 13, 2021 17:00:05 GMT
The extra annoying thing is that mine was one of the rescheduled shows, so a box office person has already looked at the booking and rebooked me into the same seat. Dire organisation, really. I'm half inclined to make a fuss, but I'm also inherently lazy so it probably won't happen. Whatever you do, don’t tag Carrie in a tweet! 🥺 |
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Post by christya on Oct 13, 2021 23:28:10 GMT
Tempted to do it, for the laugh. But maybe not, eh?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 14, 2021 0:04:47 GMT
Tempted to do it, for the laugh. But maybe not, eh? “You booked to see Cinderella from a seat in a particular price band. You got to see Cinderella, in a seat, in that price band. What you DIDNT pay for was a particular seat. Seats aren't always available. They’re not robots!…” etcetc |
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Post by danb on Oct 14, 2021 3:44:23 GMT
You are forgetting to be begrudgingly supportive of the other seats that people have to sit in when hers breaks.
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Post by Dr Tom on Oct 14, 2021 11:08:26 GMT
I went again last night thanks to a lottery win (i.e. the opportunity to buy a £25 seat). This ended up being in the centre of the 4th row Circle, which I think is a £95 seat most of the time.
Plenty of gaps in the Circle and a few in the Stalls but this did mean I could move across and get a free seat either side, which was nice.
The view is clear for the most part (not perfect when the stage rotates and you can't see the Cinderella entrance). There was a bored kid in the row behind who kept tapping the chair (not many children in thankfully as this really isn't a show aimed at them). I personally wouldn't sit there again as you are just too far away from the stage.
All the leads were on and sang well. Carrie, in particular, I think has really settled into the role.
This was apparently a cut show based on West End Understudies as I presume they were short of female ensemble, although I didn't spot anything obvious that was different.
I suspect this will last for the Christmas season but I don't know for how much longer. I've no immediate desire to go again, but I may perhaps if some Stalls lottery tickets or other offers appear.
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Post by danb on Oct 14, 2021 11:43:45 GMT
I suspect that you are right Tom. It is a bit of a curio rather than the great big blockbuster the Lord would like us to think. It isn’t the story that jars, just the general tone and slightly smug nature of it all. He could have created a populist alternative fairy tale but it is far from that unfortunately.
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Post by lolalou on Oct 15, 2021 8:34:30 GMT
Thoughts on the filming of bows
So I’ll preface this by saying I totally get why theatres want audience members to film bows to self publicise the show - standing ovations, full seats, cheering etc
HOWEVER
When stars repost those bows over and over it all starts to look a bit cynical (and possibly a little narcissistic?)
That ‘spontaneous’ little dance Sebastian and Cinderella do right at the end (just for your performance of course!) when viewed multiple times every day on the leads social media begins to look forced. Totally removes the mystery of theatre and has the total opposite effect on me. I like seeing her other content but do we really need to see identical bow after bow reposted?
Wish we could go back to the element of surprise and leave the magic to the actual night seeing it in person but the can of worms has truly opened now in the West End - can’t see us going back to those days 😢
The muddied waters for audiences of when and when not to film is a whole other topic. They see it on SM but as most theatres don’t bother with a pre show warning anymore it’s no wonder people (less regular theatregoers) get confused of what is unacceptable behaviour in a theatre with cameras and videos
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