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Post by duncan on May 1, 2019 8:58:17 GMT
The only balcony seat I’ve actually found bearable was at the Lyceum for Local Hero, as it’s quite a small theatre, so it didn’t feel too high up. You could still see their facial expressions, even from the last row. The balcony is my level of choice for the Lyceum - Row C middle 4 seats for me it offers a better overall view of the stage than the front rows of the stalls.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 9:17:13 GMT
Not all balconies are created equal. The one in the Apollo Theatre (London) should be closed off, had the misfortune to sit there once - then had the utter stupidity to sit there a second time. Now refuse to even look to see if there are seats available there. I think they did close it off after the roof fell in. No great loss, DEFINITELY one of the worst balconies in London. Give me the Wyndham's any day!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 9:18:31 GMT
The only balcony seat I’ve actually found bearable was at the Lyceum for Local Hero, as it’s quite a small theatre, so it didn’t feel too high up. You could still see their facial expressions, even from the last row. The balcony is my level of choice for the Lyceum - Row C middle 4 seats for me it offers a better overall view of the stage than the front rows of the stalls. I usually sit up there as the flat rate student tickets are up there. I find that it lets me take in the production more as a whole than the stalls.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 11:37:05 GMT
It's perfectly possible to believe you're fine with the height of theatre balconies until you book a ticket for the one that genuinely makes you feel like you're about to tumble to your death. I remember one where at first sight it was almost like walking down a ladder. The floor just dropped away. Once I was sitting down and looking around it didn't seem so steep, but the initial surprise and the tiny rail that couldn't possibly stop a falling body were a bit disconcerting.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 1, 2019 11:40:39 GMT
That makes me feel dizzy just thinking about it. I genuinely do not understand how they’re still allowed with health and safety legislation being pretty stringent these days.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 12:06:20 GMT
why are they booking a seat in the highest part of the theatre in the first place? Because they're poor. But what's the point? OK, the seat is cheap but if they're that scared of heights isn't the likelihood that they won't be able to sit there in the end and they'll have wasted the money, making them even poorer?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 12:08:22 GMT
or that they can get moved for nothing Ah I see. That makes more sense I suppose. Everyone wants something for nothing nowadays don't they.
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Post by crowblack on May 1, 2019 13:00:36 GMT
At West End prices, for some it's the only way to see a show. When I lived in London I rarely went to the theatre, despite being besotted with it as a teenager going to theatres in the North-West, because I just couldn't afford a decent seat and the cheap seats were as scary for me as a big dipper ride. This was pre-theatre-ticket-internet days, so I didn't know how to hunt out bargains.
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Post by Phantom of London on May 1, 2019 13:28:07 GMT
I get it that seat jumping is illegal, but judging these days where you cannot be done for shoplifting if your trolley is under £200.
However we go to the theatre a lot and become more enlightened, we show our love for the genre for not how much cash we hand over at the box office, but how often we go and support theatre, so if we get a little bonus along the way, then good luck, I say.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 14:24:29 GMT
Ha! I do love that we're fine with seat jumping, which as @baemax says is technically theft, but not with someone using their phone at the theatre (which isn't a crime). Court Services around the country are frantically scrubbing various names off of the jury service register as we speak.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 14:32:18 GMT
I'm operating on the idea of "your right to hit people ends where my face begins". If I'm surrounded by dozens of unsold and unoccupied seats and moving three seats over to my right improves my view immeasurably, then although I appreciate my moving isn't technically okay (and I will of course move back if told to do so), I'm not impeding anyone else's ability to enjoy the play by doing a quick shuffle as the lights go down. But if we're all watching a dimly-lit atmospheric play with hushed dialogue, and my phone lights up like a beacon *and* I answer it and have a conversation at a dialogue-obscuring volume, then damn straight I'm the asshole in this scenario.
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Post by crowblack on May 1, 2019 14:39:07 GMT
Is it? Who are you stealing it from, the venue or the ticket holder, and if the latter, where does that leave the issues/controversy around selling your ticket at above face value on a secondary ticket site?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 14:56:20 GMT
OK, happy to. First, most theatres - West End ones for sure - have in the terms and conditions that you are only entitled to the seat you purchased, or one of equivalent value if they have to move you. Upgrading yourself without permission is breach of contract (civil offence) and can be construed as theft (criminal offence). So no, you can't move yourself.
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Post by crowblack on May 1, 2019 15:17:20 GMT
But shifting to an unoccupied seat of the same value or less? Last Saturday, the empty seat I was looking covetously at - it was too late to move - was £5 and had an unobstructed view. Mine was £32.50 plus £3 fee with a view blocked by the average hight woman in front of me. And what counts as the value, when you can find seats in the same area being offered at very different prices depending on where, when and how you book? For example, the £5 stalls seat mentioned above, which wasn't on offer at that price on the website, or the last minute £5 and £10 stalls seats to the Old Vic, where normal price was £60? On trains, you can upgrade an existing ticket to 1st at quiet times for a fee, but in theatres you can get the first class experience for as little as a fiver from the off if you spot that bargain. It'd be interesting to see this principle tested in a court of law.
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Post by zahidf on May 1, 2019 15:40:46 GMT
Ha! I do love that we're fine with seat jumping, which as @baemax says is technically theft, but not with someone using their phone at the theatre (which isn't a crime). Court Services around the country are frantically scrubbing various names off of the jury service register as we speak. Morally, no one cares if you seat jump, as long as the seat is free. Doesn't effect anyone
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Post by crowblack on May 1, 2019 15:54:16 GMT
no one cares if you seat jump, as long as the seat is free. Yes, the people behind might be a bit annoyed as they've lost an unexpected clear view, but it wasn't their seat either (I do see people booking two seats on night buses so they can sleep!)
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Post by crowblack on May 1, 2019 15:56:45 GMT
not with someone using their phone at the theatre (which isn't a crime). Should be, and so should the apparently Mary Poppins' gladstone bag-sized pack of crisps the person behind me at Sweeney Todd was eating yesterday.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 1, 2019 16:39:06 GMT
If you moved seats without asking permission, and a big chunk of plaster, or a cherub or something fell off the ceiling and hit you on your head, would you be entitled to compo?
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Post by crowblack on May 1, 2019 16:50:15 GMT
would you be entitled to compo? Even if you regard sitting in a seat as theft (and i do feel like I've drifted into the 18thc here rather) burglars have successfully sued for being injured by falling etc during burglaries, so yes.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 16:54:35 GMT
If you moved seats without asking permission, and a big chunk of plaster, or a cherub or something fell off the ceiling and hit you on your head, would you be entitled to compo? In this crazy world, probably yes. In a sensible world, no you shouldn't. If you sat in front of me when you shouldn't have, you absolutely shouldn't.
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Post by Phantom of London on May 1, 2019 18:11:18 GMT
If you moved seats without asking permission, and a big chunk of plaster, or a cherub or something fell off the ceiling and hit you on your head, would you be entitled to compo? In this crazy world, probably yes. In a sensible world, no you shouldn't. If you sat in front of me when you shouldn't have, you absolutely should. Yes you would be entitled to ‘compo’ as the operator has to provide a facility that meets the health and safety criteria. Failng that you could sue the cherub!
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Post by missthelma on May 1, 2019 18:52:16 GMT
I am so looking forward to holiday season when people will be telling all their stories of how they spotted a premium economy or first class seat on their plane/train/boat and decided to take it as no one was using it.
And before all the cries of 'but that's different'. No, actually it isn't.
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Post by crowblack on May 1, 2019 19:18:31 GMT
Yes it is. You don't go on a plane for the lovely experience of being on a plane. You go on it to get somewhere. And you can get a free upgrade to first class: "It depends how you're dressed" says Mum.
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Post by zahidf on May 2, 2019 7:25:17 GMT
I am so looking forward to holiday season when people will be telling all their stories of how they spotted a premium economy or first class seat on their plane/train/boat and decided to take it as no one was using it. And before all the cries of 'but that's different'. No, actually it isn't. I'd 100% do that if no one checked/said anything. Whole load of pearl clutching going on in this thread!
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Post by londonpostie on May 2, 2019 7:48:02 GMT
That's funny!
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