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Post by ensembleswings on Apr 29, 2019 16:40:18 GMT
I’ve moved myself twice to better seats (although they’ve been the same price band) without asking. Once was to a seat much closer to the stage (2nd row stalls rather than 12th) I never actually sat in my booked seat but instead stood at the side of the stalls until the show was about to begin and sat in one of the free seats towards the end of the row, the other time I moved along a couple of seats to avoid a tall person sat in front. The other times I’ve moved have been in the Bristol Hippodrome where ushers always say (in the upper circle at least) if there are free seats as they shut the doors then we can move without issue. I’ve only ever moved along a few seats to space out as those bench seats feel very closed in.
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Post by wickedgrin on Apr 29, 2019 16:59:37 GMT
Interesting discussion.
I have never upgraded or swapped seats prior to the first act. I would be too nervous of the real ticket holder turning up late and being embarrassed having to move.
I completely agree about the law in this matter in that you have paid for the seat you are sat in and not “entitled” to upgrade. However I have frequently upgraded myself at the interval - I have never been challenged as I am clearly an asset to any audience and completely fabulous!
The move of seats can be for many reasons. Sitting behind someone tall or with big hair or bad behaviour and simply moving to a different seat in the same price band. Moving back to an empty row for more room or solitude.
My most outrageous upgrade was for Chess last year with friends. They had booked cheap seats in the gods (£10) and due to the staging and behind a tall man I could not see a thing. During the first act I spied an empty Upper Circle Box - so we moved. I did expect to be challenged but we weren’t!
I disgracefully upgrade myself at my local ATG theatre frequently. Most recently at Glengarry Glen Ross in a very empty theatre. They NEVER discount and for this show there was not even a discount for senior citizens! So the show was quiet. The box office refused to sell me a front stalls seat at a discount so I bought a seat at the back and blatantly told him I would move forward - which I did. I was happy to be challenged but I wasn’t. @ryan did not come and sit on my lap unfortunately but then I am sure he never ventures into the provinces with the great unwashed!!
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 29, 2019 18:25:36 GMT
I'm surprised some people on this thread are so hostile about moving seats. I'd never do it without asking but if the theatre is half empty then I do not see what is wrong in asking the FOH staff if you are allowed to move. If they say no then of course I don't but more often than not I've been allowed to. Ushers at my local theatre sometimes actively encourage people to move forward on occasion if something has sold badly. In terms of actors' opinions, I have on a few occasions had stage door conversations with actors after seeing half-empty performances & they've always said they'd rather the audience moved nearer the front so they weren't looking at lots of empty seats.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 29, 2019 18:45:55 GMT
I once moved three times 😮
It was towards the end of the run of Sunset Boulevard at the Palace last year. I’d already seen it but booked again with the blerk I was seeing and foolishly decided to try the top price circle seats, second row central.
The chosen seats found our knees round the earholes of the couple in the front row. We moved back a row but still had the hard edge of our original seats sticking into our knees. We moved again to the very outer seats of the circle on the front row... hideous. We stuck it until half time and then snook down to some lovely leg roomy seats on the side of the stalls.
It was a quiet night towards the end of the run and I doubt whether Ria Jones noticed. The seats we moved to in the end were probably the same price as the original circle but I’d have done it regardless. it’s an interesting thought as to whether the “fit for purpose” rule in consumer law should apply to theatre seats (it clearly doesn’t at the moment!)
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Post by aksis on Apr 29, 2019 20:55:29 GMT
I occasionally move seats but always asking with an usher if it is ok. I did get into a fight once when the usher told me I could take the free seat and someone else wantes to upgrade herself too and tried to sit herself down. The usher came to solve that problem though and she got very uoset with me. There is one theatre here where they always sell all areas and always have to close of areas and replace people. I often buy a cheaper ticket there in an area that I never experienced as open and always get an upgrade to a much better seat. As long as they do that I will use this option.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 22:29:58 GMT
Ryan did not come and sit on my lap unfortunately but then I am sure he never ventures into the provinces with the great unwashed!! Not without enough jabs to bring down a proletariat.
I jest of course. I'm like Her Maj in many ways. We both often like to live dangerously and mix with the general public. I think to myself, well if Betty Two can schlep off to the far flung reaches of the Commonwealth to be faced with many a subject flashing their do-dahs at her, I can get Driver to batten down the hatches and take me to heaven knows where in the North every now and again.
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Post by londonpostie on Apr 29, 2019 22:40:05 GMT
During the first act I spied an empty Upper Circle Box - so we moved. I did expect to be challenged but we weren’t! Not sure if I could pull this off alone ( ) but I love the idea of a whole group of £10ers decamping to a box!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 22:41:24 GMT
During the first act I spied an empty Upper Circle Box - so we moved. I did expect to be challenged but we weren’t! Not sure if I could pull this off alone ( ) but I love the idea of a whole group of £10ers decamping to a box! I've always wanted to do that at the Proms (there's almost always at least one box empty and I'm always up in the Circle) but have never dared try!
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Post by wickedgrin on Apr 29, 2019 23:21:21 GMT
Not sure if I could pull this off alone ( ) but I love the idea of a whole group of £10ers decamping to a box! No I wasn't alone - safety in numbers - but only 4 of us!
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Post by talkingheads on Apr 29, 2019 23:37:10 GMT
If I spot an empty seat further forward I just go for it. At the interval of course Never been challenged yet. I don't see the crime. The seat's there gathering dust whether I sit in it or not. For the last West End outing of Glengarry I managed to get from the middle of the Upper Circle to the second row of the stalls, that's the best so far.
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 29, 2019 23:57:30 GMT
Not often I take my mum to the theatre, but a few years back as a mother’s day treat I took mum to see Oliver at Drury Lane.
Being the cheap Fagin I booked the second cheapest seats near the back of the stalls. However the 3 rows in front were completely empty, so one minute before start of the matinee performance I said to mum ‘we are moving,it’s alright’. So show starts, So 3 completely empty rows and if a couple or two did walk in, this one would be easy to swerve, however this didn’t happen..............a whole big school group walked in, that filled exactly 3 rows - Yeap I felt the theatre swallow me, with a mother saying ‘you go to the theatre a lot and you said it would be alright.’
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Post by wickedgrin on Apr 30, 2019 0:08:15 GMT
As I said I have never been challenged "upgrading" and if I was I would be perfectly polite and move being the gentleman I am and of course knowing I am technically in the wrong. However, I would say to the usher that it is a pity that bad behaviour (phones etc) are not dealt with by them in the same ruthless manner!!!!!
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Post by crowblack on Apr 30, 2019 9:11:29 GMT
It has a view of the stage But in many places, not if you're short. I'm the average height for a British woman but if there's an average height man in the seat in front I might as well be behind a pillar in theatres with no rake and no offset seating, but those seas are generally full stalls price.
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Post by crowblack on Apr 30, 2019 12:32:46 GMT
Modern theatres and cinemas have better rakes (no problems at Liverpool Everyman, Theatr Clwyd etc. or Cineworld, Picturehouse etc. where I feel I can happily book any seat) but the fashion for low stages and actors sitting and lying down means crap sightlines for the short in old theatres. Just make the stage higher!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 30, 2019 13:55:32 GMT
I was at the Everyman for the first time on Saturday. Lovely theatre. Nice comfy seats,even for 3 hours of Sweeney, excellent rake, loads of legroom. I suspect there’s not a bad seat in the house. I wish they were all like that. I might go even more!
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Post by crowblack on Apr 30, 2019 14:06:43 GMT
I wish they were all like that. I think it has the same designers as the Dorfman and Bridge - I'm off to the teatime Sweeney this afternoon with £10 'behind the band' seats. I also asked if they'll let my friend in if she's running late and they said yes, to a house seat when there's the first opportunity, though I'm not sure whether that applies to non musicals.
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Post by cheesy116 on Apr 30, 2019 21:30:20 GMT
In my work, if someone asks me to move along a row to be more central and its empty, I always allow it. But if someone up in the gods approaches me saying they're scared of heights (the gallery/balcony in my work is extremely high and very steep) and ask if they can move to a lower level, I always tell them yes but they'll need to pay for the difference in price of the seat. 9 times out of 10, they'll suddenly not want to move anymore!
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Post by crowblack on Apr 30, 2019 22:06:26 GMT
if someone up in the gods approaches me saying they're scared of heights (the gallery/balcony in my work is extremely high and very steep If it's the first time they've been to that theatre then I don't blame them. I've booked upper circle seats, then looked online at audience pics of the vertiginous view and thought "no way!". In one recent case (I think it was True West) I asked if I could change my seat for a stalls seat and pay the extra (my gods seat was around £10, so an extra £30 for the £40 stalls) and, amazingly, they said no - I had to have both the stalls seat and the gods seat! I said forget it, and booked to see a different show at another, more reasonable theatre.
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Post by cheesy116 on Apr 30, 2019 22:14:40 GMT
if someone up in the gods approaches me saying they're scared of heights (the gallery/balcony in my work is extremely high and very steep If it's the first time they've been to that theatre then I don't blame them. I've booked upper circle seats, then looked online at audience pics of the vertiginous view and thought "no way!". In one recent case (I think it was True West) I asked if I could change my seat for a stalls seat and pay the extra (my gods seat was around £10, so an extra £30 for the £40 stalls) and, amazingly, they said no - I had to have both the stalls seat and the gods seat! I said forget it, and booked to see a different show at another, more reasonable theatre. To be honest if they kick up enough of a fuss and it involves a child or elderly person, they'll probably get moved for free especially if its quiet. But we are told to tell them that they may have to pay an upgrade fee, which usually makes them stay in their original seat.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 6:25:24 GMT
If they are scared of heights, why are they booking a seat in the highest part of the theatre in the first place?
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Post by galinda on May 1, 2019 7:55:46 GMT
Me and a friend booked cheap tickets up in the circle for The Full Monty at the Noël Coward a few years back. So high up and awful side view. We spotted a couple of free seats in the front row of the stalls and so moved down there in the interval. Wish we hadn’t though as I’ll never get that image of a naked ‘Jack Meadows’ from The Bill thrusting with a belt out of my head 🤮😂
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Post by crowblack on May 1, 2019 7:59:18 GMT
why are they booking a seat in the highest part of the theatre in the first place? Because they're poor.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 8:17:54 GMT
Not all balconies are created equal. Sometimes you get up there and think "oh, this is fine, I feel safe and secure and the stage doesn't look as distant as I thought it might", and sometimes you get up there and go "OH MY GOD THESE STEPS ARE SO STEEP AND NARROW AND THE SEATS ARE ALL TILTED FORWARD AND I SWEAR I JUST FELT THE BUILDING SWAY". It's perfectly possible to believe you're fine with the height of theatre balconies until you book a ticket for the one that genuinely makes you feel like you're about to tumble to your death.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 8:44:51 GMT
The only balcony seat I’ve actually found bearable was at the Lyceum for Local Hero, as it’s quite a small theatre, so it didn’t feel too high up. You could still see their facial expressions, even from the last row.
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Post by duncan on May 1, 2019 8:57:04 GMT
Not all balconies are created equal. The one in the Apollo Theatre (London) should be closed off, had the misfortune to sit there once - then had the utter stupidity to sit there a second time. Now refuse to even look to see if there are seats available there.
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