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Post by LaLuPone on Nov 7, 2018 15:43:05 GMT
How does that work though? Do the Olivier panel have to go to see everything in the West End during the season including long runnning productions? Or do they only have to go if the performance is especially acclaimed? I know Patti, Elaine and Betty all got nominations for Sunset but none of them won.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 16:00:56 GMT
How does that work though? Do the Olivier panel have to go to see everything in the West End during the season including long runnning productions? Or do they only have to go if the performance is especially acclaimed? I know Patti, Elaine and Betty all got nominations for Sunset but none of them won. I suspect the way it works is if it is a high profile production. So Sunset was with all the press stuff, as was My Fair Lady. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 16:13:10 GMT
As Joanna Riding was not in the 2017/18 cast would she be eligible for a Follies nomination (assuming she is worthy)? It's very, very rare but it has happened that performers win as replacements. Joanna did it already, winning when she replaced in My Fair Lady. Both her and Martine were not only nominated, but won! Even after all these years it's still one of my favourite things from about 8:33 . . . |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 16:18:33 GMT
Something I've always wondered, maybe you'll know @ryan, was Martine expected to win or was it unexpected?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 17:05:35 GMT
Jonathan Pryce' s reaction is priceless, but at least she was gracious in her speech.
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Post by partytentdown on Nov 7, 2018 19:03:05 GMT
Something I've always wondered, maybe you'll know @ryan, was Martine expected to win or was it unexpected? She has a very obvious mic pack on in that clip, so either she knew it was going to happen or all the nominees had to wear mics! |
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Post by madsonmelo on Nov 9, 2018 4:13:07 GMT
Do we have front runners for leading play categories?
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Post by theatrefan77 on Nov 9, 2018 8:28:20 GMT
Hope Summer and Smoke makes the shortlist for Revival
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Post by madsonmelo on Nov 23, 2018 14:28:39 GMT
Can Katharine McPhee get a nom for Waitress?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 18:01:26 GMT
Can Katharine McPhee get a nom for Waitress? I don't think that will happen now. I think her announcement has pretty much solidified that it will be Adrienne, Kelli, Rosalie and Sharon for the nominations, with Rosalie ultimately winning and rightly so. |
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Post by madsonmelo on Nov 23, 2018 21:20:02 GMT
Rosalie winning? Wow, I thought she had the lesser reviews, even tho great, of all the possible nominees.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 2:00:39 GMT
with Rosalie ultimately winning and rightly so. I would reserve "and rightly so" for an Adrienne win, or possibly Kelli. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 10:12:44 GMT
I think Rosalie will win for the simple fact she takes a role that has been done time and time again and completely reinvented it into what is a successful performance, and with the timing of this production, I do think the stars will align with this one.
The only other I could see beating her is Adrienne at this point. She is the lead and is on stage the whole time, she got amazing reviews and takes a real person and gives it all she's got to make it both similar and unique. I could see her winning, but I do ultimately think it's Rosalie's year.
As for Kelli and Sharon, whilst both are deserving, they are playing roles that have been done time and time again, especially Kelli. Sharon has done this role alot so it's not like it's anything new she's doing, and Kelli will get the Audra treatment of a nom but not the win.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 11:03:46 GMT
I think Rosalie will win for the simple fact she takes a role that has been done time and time again and completely reinvented it into what is a successful performance, and with the timing of this production, I do think the stars will align with this one. The only other I could see beating her is Adrienne at this point. She is the lead and is on stage the whole time, she got amazing reviews and takes a real person and gives it all she's got to make it both similar and unique. I could see her winning, but I do ultimately think it's Rosalie's year. As for Kelli and Sharon, whilst both are deserving, they are playing roles that have been done time and time again, especially Kelli. Sharon has done this role alot so it's not like it's anything new she's doing, and Kelli will get the Audra treatment of a nom but not the win. I think I agree. Kelli gave THE most glorious performance and it rightly should be her winning and Adrienne does put in the hard work but I think the fates will be on Rosalie's side. Or rather on 'Company's side and Rosalie will benefit from everything that goes on around her because as nice as she is and as competent as she is, it just isn't really a performance that deserves to win by itself. I actually think that she's the weakest one in that field. It'll be Gwyneth Paltrow in 'Shakespeare in Love' at the Oscars all over again. Actually Rosalie should probably already be an Olivier winner for 'The Light Princess' really. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 11:07:16 GMT
The issue Rosalie may face is actually with the other nominees from the same show. We've all accepted Patti and Jonathan will get nominated and likely win, and there will be two or three more nominees it seems from Company. But with Jonathan and Patti both likely winning, will Company really win three of the four acting awards? It seems highly unlikely as that is very rare. And who bares the brunt of that? Of the three, Rosalie.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 11:19:59 GMT
I actually wonder (and I can't believe I'm about to say it) if it would be Patti who loses out if they don't want to give 'Company' a clean sweep? Rosalie winning for playing a role originally written as and traditionally played by a man will be kismet in these current post #MeToo times. Jonny B is the perfect living breathing example of a star making, scene stealing, show stopping performance that can't be ignored but Patti is Patti. She's quite rightly a legend and she does wipe the floor with everyone else, she's traffic stoppingly brilliant in it and it's a majestic performance from a true Broadway star but it IS a very Patti LuPone performance and some people may think there's less acting involved than from some of the others, particularly Craig who you can see working extremely hard. Patti is effortless. I hope to be proved horribly horribly wrong though as Patti deserves to win completely.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 11:23:22 GMT
I think it just depends who is nominated in those catagories. I don't think anyone is coming for Jonathan in any way. Actress is a stacked catagory with three potential winners and a fourth slot. Supporting Actress, I can't think of anyone I would give it too other than Patti... unless they wanna nominate Clare Halse as a "we f***ed up, here you go Clare" moment. 😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 11:24:29 GMT
I think it just depends who is nominated in those catagories. I don't think anyone is coming for Jonathan in any way. Actress is a stacked catagory with three potential winners and a fourth slot. Supporting Actress, I can't think of anyone I would give it too other than Patti... unless they wanna nominate Clare Halse as a "we f***ed up, here you go Clare" moment. 😂😂 I know you love her but if Patti lost to Clare Halse, I'd riot. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 11:29:06 GMT
I think it just depends who is nominated in those catagories. I don't think anyone is coming for Jonathan in any way. Actress is a stacked catagory with three potential winners and a fourth slot. Supporting Actress, I can't think of anyone I would give it too other than Patti... unless they wanna nominate Clare Halse as a "we f***ed up, here you go Clare" moment. 😂😂 I know you love her but if Patti lost to Clare Halse, I'd riot. 😂😂 don't worry love, Clare has already won for alot of people. I'll let Patti have this one. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 11:30:36 GMT
On the topic of Company though, I'm backing them for Costume Design too, simply for Jonathan Bailey's incredible sparkle trousers in the club scene! 😍
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Post by jgblunners on Nov 24, 2018 12:07:14 GMT
I think the only person who's realistically giving Patti any competition is Ruthie Ann Miles. I can't recall any other performances that could really be strong contenders in the Supporting Actress category.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 12:10:08 GMT
I think the only person who's realistically giving Patti any competition is Ruthie Ann Miles. I can't recall any other performances that could really be strong contenders in the Supporting Actress category. But is Ruthie eligable though? This is the problem. As she didn't perform on opening night. I want her to be eligable but I don't think she is. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 12:16:54 GMT
I think the only person who's realistically giving Patti any competition is Ruthie Ann Miles. I can't recall any other performances that could really be strong contenders in the Supporting Actress category. But is Ruthie eligable though? This is the problem. As she didn't perform on opening night. I want her to be eligable but I don't think she is. It would be rather poor of the Oliviers if they didn't take the special circumstances there into account. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 12:19:41 GMT
But is Ruthie eligable though? This is the problem. As she didn't perform on opening night. I want her to be eligable but I don't think she is. It would be rather poor of the Oliviers if they didn't take the special circumstances there into account. I completely agree with you. And think regardless if she was technically eligable or not, there isn't that many actresses that would deservedly fit into that catagory this year so putting Ruthie and Patti in there would be right. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 14:21:27 GMT
What happened on opening night to make her ineligible?
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