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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 22:18:12 GMT
My local cinema in Clapham is only showing it on 1 screen and there are still 147 tickets left. But £22 seems a bit steep.
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Post by miz on Nov 25, 2019 23:06:33 GMT
Yes, Michael was back tonight which means I missed a chance to see the dream pair of JOJ-Earl as I was away last week. I like Micheal Ball in all other musicals he has been in, but when it comes to playing Javert, Earl is in a league of his own.
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Post by shady23 on Nov 26, 2019 0:28:57 GMT
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Post by ukpuppetboy on Nov 26, 2019 3:08:22 GMT
I see that same ‘theatre vlogger’ has immediately launched upon Michael Ball in response to this for “showing contempt for his fans” and having to audacity to appear at the Children in Need event at the Savoy. Is there really any need for such bile and hypocrisy when he himself is crying defamation left right and centre? It’s embarrassing for the theatre community as a whole that they entertain his continued presence. |
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Post by shady23 on Nov 26, 2019 9:00:42 GMT
"How dare you let down theatre paying public" but then ranting why did you do Children in Need event which was in a theatre full of paying public.
(I suspect they wouldn't give him an interview so he has thrown his toys out the pram in a strop!)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 9:14:52 GMT
"How dare you let down theatre paying public" but then ranting why did you do Children in Need event which was in a theatre full of paying public. (I suspect they wouldn't give him an interview so he has thrown his toys out the pram in a strop!) Yes that's what I was thinking. It's definitely a vindictive attack, as he's previously done with both AB and CHF. I actually started listening to his latest vlog this morning, out of curiosity (as I know very little about him), and had to stop after a few minutes. He is awful and it made for really uncomfortable listening. |
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Post by Steffi on Nov 26, 2019 9:55:54 GMT
He is just doing it to promote his vlog. People should stop giving him attention.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 26, 2019 12:45:21 GMT
It’s probably best not to give them the oxygen of publicity then. Let’s move away from slating YouTube vloggers please. If you want to make your opinion about them known then they have the comments enabled on their videos, thats the place to do it. Thank you.
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Post by miz on Nov 26, 2019 13:48:04 GMT
Having read the posts of the last several days on disappointed fans, may I contribute my view from a different angle?
It's so much easier for a performer to come on to the stage knowing your doting fans are going to love whatever you do anyway.
On the other hand, it takes real talent and professionalism to go out there knowing half the audience members are wishing you were rather not there and still win the hearts of many of those disgruntled members of the audience in the end.
So, well done to all those alternate and understudy actors who have successfully covered the big names and added a lot more to the show!
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Post by Sam on Nov 26, 2019 16:01:48 GMT
The problem is the show is what category it fits into. Is it a concert, a theatrical production, or some sort of Hybrid. I think it is ultimately the latter which is what is creating issues.
The procedure for concerts is clear. You book to see a particular person and you don't expect them to put someone else on instead, you expect them to cancel or reschedule the show and offer you a refund. If this was a Ball & Boe concert where they happened to sing Les Mis songs it would be clear that you wouldn't expect them to be replaced.
The procedure (in the UK) for theatrical shows is also clear, you pay to see the show, not a person, and if that person doesn't appear you are still getting to see the show you paid for so shouldn't expect a refund. If this were a normal production of Les Mis, which just happened to have stars as the cast and wasn't sold on the strength of those names it would be clear.
The problem here is its both being advertised as Les Mis, as well as Ball, Boe, Fletcher, and Lucas. So it doesn't neatly fit in either place. I would lean more towards saying that it is a Concert Version of something which happens to be a Stage show, so should be treated as such, due to the prominence of the names in advertising and it being called a concert production. But equally, there are scheduled alternate dates, like a full staged version, and its sitting for a long while unlike a true concert.
It's a picky point, but its clearly causing heaps of anguish and confusion. There isn't one right solution for everyone, but the current situation isn't working well.
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Post by sparky5000 on Nov 26, 2019 18:36:33 GMT
My local cinema in Clapham is only showing it on 1 screen and there are still 147 tickets left. But £22 seems a bit steep. @tbfl is that the Clapham Picturehouse? I’m down the Road in Balham. £22 is a lot though 😐 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 18:43:35 GMT
My local cinema in Clapham is only showing it on 1 screen and there are still 147 tickets left. But £22 seems a bit steep. @tbfl is that the Clapham Picturehouse? I’m down the Road in Balham. £22 is a lot though 😐 Yep. That's the one.
I'll probably decide last minute if i go. it's not likely to sell out!
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Post by amp09 on Nov 26, 2019 20:54:48 GMT
@tbfl is that the Clapham Picturehouse? I’m down the Road in Balham. £22 is a lot though 😐 Yep. That's the one.
I'll probably decide last minute if i go. it's not likely to sell out!
London cinemas struggle with live content that’s being performed just down the road in a theatre. Become a member and you get it for £17.50 😉 |
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Post by 141920grm on Nov 27, 2019 15:29:07 GMT
Latest update: John is on for tonight as well. According to the box office John's done more shows than Alfie, lol
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Post by carmella1 on Nov 27, 2019 15:54:09 GMT
I wonder what interview Alfie has today?
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Post by miz on Nov 27, 2019 23:43:20 GMT
Managed to get a return ticket for tonight and saw an Alfie fan offloading her VIP ticket, worth 200 pounds, for 80. She said it was her birthday treat and her birthday was ruined.
Vinny was on as Enjorlas again and I noticed improvements. His Enjorlas is a quite one like Scott Garnham's used to be but without his quiet authority. I rate Scott's Enjorlas as one of the best I have seen although he was only an understudy.
As for JOJ, what can I say? This man is an absolute wonder. He LIVES the 3 hours on stage as JVJ and posesses an unparalleled natural singing technique to match.
Incidentally, Alfie may be genuinely unwell right now. A friend who went yesterday said he was almost struggling to sing, let alone act, last night. Could this mean JOJ has a chance to play the role on the December 2nd!? Or would they rather postpone the live streaming if Alfie is unwell?
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Post by miz on Nov 28, 2019 0:03:31 GMT
Just read JOJ will be a PART of the cinema screening performance, meaning??
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 28, 2019 0:11:11 GMT
Just read JOJ will be a PART of the cinema screening performance, meaning?? A special Bring Him Home at the end? |
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Post by showtoones on Nov 28, 2019 0:27:52 GMT
The problem is the show is what category it fits into. Is it a concert, a theatrical production, or some sort of Hybrid. I think it is ultimately the latter which is what is creating issues. The procedure for concerts is clear. You book to see a particular person and you don't expect them to put someone else on instead, you expect them to cancel or reschedule the show and offer you a refund. If this was a Ball & Boe concert where they happened to sing Les Mis songs it would be clear that you wouldn't expect them to be replaced. The procedure (in the UK) for theatrical shows is also clear, you pay to see the show, not a person, and if that person doesn't appear you are still getting to see the show you paid for so shouldn't expect a refund. If this were a normal production of Les Mis, which just happened to have stars as the cast and wasn't sold on the strength of those names it would be clear. The problem here is its both being advertised as Les Mis, as well as Ball, Boe, Fletcher, and Lucas. So it doesn't neatly fit in either place. I would lean more towards saying that it is a Concert Version of something which happens to be a Stage show, so should be treated as such, due to the prominence of the names in advertising and it being called a concert production. But equally, there are scheduled alternate dates, like a full staged version, and its sitting for a long while unlike a true concert. It's a picky point, but its clearly causing heaps of anguish and confusion. There isn't one right solution for everyone, but the current situation isn't working well. This is brilliant summary of the situation. Thank you Sam.... Thanks for explaining it in that way. Everyone is entitled to his/her feelings about seeing understudies and it is an interesting topic to debate. But anyone who says suck it up, you have no right to be unhappy or gutted when someone you like isn’t on is just plain wrong. You have the right to your feelings but seeing an understudy could surprise you on how good or different they are. They could be good and you could enjoy despite being bitter someone isn’t on. One thing is clear...You just shouldn’t go and take it out on the box office and front of house staff. Isn’t their a rule about exchanging at DM and LW theaters? They’ll let you do it for a small change fee if it’s a few days before? |
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Post by marob on Nov 28, 2019 0:33:22 GMT
Just noticed it's been rebranded as "The Staged Concert", obviously I know why, but when did that happen?
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Post by shady23 on Nov 28, 2019 1:36:25 GMT
Just read JOJ will be a PART of the cinema screening performance, meaning?? Ooh this is exciting! |
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Post by princeton on Nov 28, 2019 1:38:37 GMT
It had definitely become "The Staged Concert" by 25 June - as they tweeted a picture of a press advert for the old, the new and the concert that day
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Post by marob on Nov 28, 2019 8:47:31 GMT
It had definitely become "The Staged Concert" by 25 June - as they tweeted a picture of a press advert for the old, the new and the concert that day
 Oops. Clearly I'm not as observant as I'd like to think then. The pessimist in me assumed it was done to avoid giving refunds for any possible no-shows in the last few performances. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 28, 2019 10:23:49 GMT
I posted on here about the name change some time ago, and speculated that it was because the production might have a life after the WE run.
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Post by dazzerlump on Nov 28, 2019 13:25:06 GMT
Do we tho l there’s a chance this well get released on Blu Ray?
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Oops. 