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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 20:34:46 GMT
She was a sure winner this year and look what happened. She was never a sure winner this year. Sunset Boulevard with her is a different beast entirely. |
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Post by bobbybaby on Mar 1, 2019 22:33:57 GMT
Of course if they could persuade Brian Blessed to shave he'd be the perfect Max - ' NORMA'S ALIVE'.
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Post by karloscar on Mar 1, 2019 23:46:49 GMT
She was a sure winner this year and look what happened. She was never a sure winner this year. Sunset Boulevard with her is a different beast entirely. She was the clear favourite for months, until Olivia started winning everything. And NOTHING is guaranteed with a film musical. It could easily be another NINE or Phantom dud rather than a Chicago type success. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 0:09:35 GMT
She was never a sure winner this year. Sunset Boulevard with her is a different beast entirely. She was the clear favourite for months, until Olivia started winning everything. And NOTHING is guaranteed with a film musical. It could easily be another NINE or Phantom dud rather than a Chicago type success. I'm not going to go hugely off-topic, but I've already explained in the Oscar thread how she was only the favourite in the build-up US media, whereas anyone who looked at it with a bit of distance/perspective could see all along she was anything but a cert. But people bought the hype and I was called crazy for saying when the nominations came out that Colman would win... Anyway, the real point is that this is a different prospect to a Phantom, Chicago or Les Mis. We all already know that Glenn Close is a great Norma Desmond. Of course, the production choices could absolutely be terrible (Rent is a good example of known cast turning out a bad film version of course), but the point I am trying to make is that this is nowhere near the same kind of unknown quantity as most movie musicals, indeed it is a role that Close has already made iconic. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 5:49:12 GMT
 Yes, no James Cordon please. He'll probably be Joe. Jake and Anna are great shouts. Just give Siobhan Dillon Betty. I want that girl to have a big break a la Sam Barks. I'm so excited for this. Glenn is one of the finest film actors of our generation, she was an incredible Norma when I saw it at The Coliseum and is surely going to grab the Oscar for this! FINALLY! I’d love it if they gave Betty to a musical theatre performer!! Gosh I’m so excited about this - it’s my favourite show! Isn’t Zac Effron too young? We need someone mid 30’s Zac Efron is in his early 30s so it's not exactly a stretch. Jake Gyllenhaal or Chris Pine would be better choices though I think. Love the Lilly James idea for Betty, she exudes that youthful optimism needed for Betty and is also a box office draw. The director is a bit of a concern but it's still got huge potential and could probably be done on a smallish budget and be more of a prestige type of film for the studio. |
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Post by karloscar on Mar 2, 2019 7:52:16 GMT
Glenn Close did not make the role of Norma Desmond iconic, Gloria Swanson did that. And I say again, having a success with a role on stage does not mean it will work on film, or win any awards. Wait until we see what is produced before coming to any conclusions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 8:26:36 GMT
She was the clear favourite for months, until Olivia started winning everything. And NOTHING is guaranteed with a film musical. It could easily be another NINE or Phantom dud rather than a Chicago type success. I'm not going to go hugely off-topic, but I've already explained in the Oscar thread how she was only the favourite in the build-up US media, whereas anyone who looked at it with a bit of distance/perspective could see all along she was anything but a cert. But people bought the hype and I was called crazy for saying when the nominations came out that Colman would win... The story in the UK media too (before and indeed after the win) was that Colman's win was a shock, whether that was due to the "overdue" factor for Close or not, and you even said yourself that you thought Close would win prior to the awards. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 10:15:07 GMT
I'm not going to go hugely off-topic, but I've already explained in the Oscar thread how she was only the favourite in the build-up US media, whereas anyone who looked at it with a bit of distance/perspective could see all along she was anything but a cert. But people bought the hype and I was called crazy for saying when the nominations came out that Colman would win... The story in the UK media too (before and indeed after the win) was that Colman's win was a shock, whether that was due to the "overdue" factor for Close or not, and you even said yourself that you thought Close would win prior to the awards. I did think the hype had got to the point where Close probably would take it, but I never thought it was a done thing. All because of the "overdue" factor and her winning the SAG, but we know now that the latter isn't an indicator much at all because neither of the female SAG winners went on to take the Oscar this year. No-one can deny that there is already name recognition in terms of Glenn Close being connected to Sunset Boulevard, and that's what makes this different and gives it more of a chance of being successful than other movie musicals. Of course it might flop, who knows, depends what they do with it in production, but it isn't the wholly unknown quantity that a lot of previous film adaptations of stage shows have been. We all know what Close is capable of doing in the role. That's the difference. |
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Post by karloscar on Mar 3, 2019 8:48:49 GMT
The stage show has a heap of filler songs and very dull recitative which uses the same music over and over. That will die a death on film unless they do a major rewrite. At least they can stage an improved car chase I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 8:51:43 GMT
The stage show has a heap of filler songs and very dull recitative which uses the same music over and over. That will die a death on film unless they do a major rewrite. At least they can stage an improved car chase I guess. Presumably they'll add a new song to try for the Original Song Oscar at least... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 19:56:55 GMT
Glen’s cast recording removed from Spotify and iTunes. Deleted pending upcoming OST? One can dream!
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Post by danb on Apr 20, 2019 20:13:02 GMT
The stage show has a heap of filler songs and very dull recitative which uses the same music over and over. That will die a death on film unless they do a major rewrite. At least they can stage an improved car chase I guess. ...is one opinion... Conversely, the score is one of ALW’s best, with lush sweeping strings all over the shop. Full of brooding and foreboding the story is a real thrilling downward spiral. Yes, it is a touch repetitive, but if you like it in the first place it isn’t a problem. |
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Post by LaLuPone on Apr 20, 2019 20:13:09 GMT
Maybe it’s just because she sounds dreadful and no one wants to hear her croak her way through the score when you can have Patti LuPone?
Joking, joking...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 23:20:29 GMT
For those who know both, are we talking an Anne Marie Duff in Sweet Charity level of croaking?
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Post by danb on Apr 21, 2019 9:27:20 GMT
Thankfully I doubt that Les Mis levels of live vocal will be employed. They could just use the original LA recording for me. No probs with that at all.
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Apr 21, 2019 10:56:23 GMT
I'm in the some of the songs are nothing short of brilliant, but there are a fair few filler tracks in there too. With One Look, Sunset Boulevard and As if We Never Said Goodbye are three of the best songs out there in my eye.
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Post by Jon on Apr 21, 2019 13:11:00 GMT
Thankfully I doubt that Les Mis levels of live vocal will be employed. They could just use the original LA recording for me. No probs with that at all. Given they will likely want to sell a new soundtrack, they’re very unlikely to use a 27 year old recording of the show for the vocals |
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Post by danb on Apr 21, 2019 13:50:05 GMT
Thankfully I doubt that Les Mis levels of live vocal will be employed. They could just use the original LA recording for me. No probs with that at all. Given they will likely want to sell a new soundtrack, they’re very unlikely to use a 27 year old recording of the show for the vocals Really? You think? 🙄 |
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Post by theatreian on Apr 21, 2019 16:16:27 GMT
Yes I agree , sure there will be a new one with all the new cast for the film. Think they would have to really.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 11:26:59 GMT
Well they said it would start filming in October and it’s now November.......
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Post by magnificentdonkey on Nov 1, 2019 18:35:17 GMT
Good of you to remember! I think it's a common thing in movie-making to postpone and delay...
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Post by duncan on Nov 1, 2019 20:54:02 GMT
Well they said it would start filming in October and it’s now November....... I wonder if they are waiting to see how Cats does at the Box Office before actually giving the green light to start filming. If the moggies bomb then I don't see this being made anytime in the next 5 years. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 21:43:03 GMT
Well they said it would start filming in October and it’s now November....... I wonder if they are waiting to see how Cats does at the Box Office before actually giving the green light to start filming. If the moggies bomb then I don't see this being made anytime in the next 5 years. I was thinking the same, but then I wondered what that would achieve? Both are completely different properties with just ALW linking them. Even if Cats fails, Sunset Boulevard is an already proven story that works in the cinema. But who knows. I like to think they’re waiting for Jake Gyllenhaal to be free. |
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Post by TallPaul on Nov 30, 2019 13:37:37 GMT
On Radio 2 earlier today, Tom MacRea said he'd written two drafts for the film, and was now waiting to see what happens.
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Post by karloscar on Nov 30, 2019 23:08:21 GMT
Lloyd Webber does seem to be chucking projects at whoever has had a recent success without considering if they're the right person for the job. It's a long way from writing for Dr Who and There's Something About Jamie to adapting Billy Wilder. He might be brilliant, but it has a touch of the Taylor Swift is the equal of TS Eliot because she shares some initials.
The most interesting snippet from his interview was Wilder's screenplay containing a cut scene ofJoe Gillis dead in the morgue with all the corpses talking to him including a little boy. The Sondheim version of Sunset would have kept that in for sure.
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