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Post by danb on Jan 8, 2019 14:55:50 GMT
Would that really be so painful? Jackman is too old for it now, none of the Glee boys have come to much musically...(.although Darren Criss could possibly do it) if it gets the movie made I think it’s a small sacrifice. Quite possibly. My issue with Efron being cast as Joe is the over-processing and ridiculous amount of Auto-Tune that goes onto Efron vocally. Sunset Blvd is not a movie that needs to be smothered in Autotune. Boulvard is not going to be a Box Office smash (or comparable in figures to say Disney movie musicals) and should not be treated as such. Anyone who went to the recent UK tour can attest to the depleting numbers of attendance, indicating its diminishing appeal. By-and-large it wont appeal to Generation Z and casting Efron in an attempt to add curb appeal to this production would be (in my opinion) entirely misguided. Unless the intention is to write of a hell of a lot of cash for tax purpose, spurting megabucks on A-Lists (with the exception of Close) is not a good idea. Agree with all of the above. As a financial venture it’s dead in the water unless Netflix or someone is coughing up...maybe spread the costs across a zillion producers who want their name associated with a bit of quality.I just think that Efron, Jackman and Chris Pine are the only current proven male musical leads we have. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 8, 2019 15:01:05 GMT
Now now lets not go putting ideas in anyone’s head. There’s more than enough Betty. Less Betty, more Glenn giving Normaface please.
Not enough Betty - especially when a really good actor is in the role. During the ENO production myself and a lot of friends found myself really rooting for her and connecting with her far more than we'd done in other production, given the underwritten nature of the role.
Less is more with Norma D. x
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Post by distantcousin on Jan 8, 2019 15:39:59 GMT
Not enough Betty - especially when a really good actor is in the role. During the ENO production myself and a lot of friends found myself really rooting for her and connecting with her far more than we'd done in other production, given the underwritten nature of the role.
Less is more with Norma D. x
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 18:39:43 GMT
Dear lord what a terrible vibrato. Michael was OK not great. Patrick Wilson is too old. At least Glenn will be able to record her songs in the booth to make up for her live singing. Now since for Sunset Blvd. they went from a tux to a speedo does that mean nude now? Thing is, when you're casting someone over 70, you cannot have a Gillis in his 30's - it's too unseemly (even if the character is meant to be early 30's)
So Patrick Wilson might work.
But the relationship between Norma and Joe is rather unseemly anyway so I don't think that would matter so much. Plus Glenn looks great for her age I think so it's not unreasonable to have a Joe in his 30s. Hollywood is littered with older men and younger women ('Entrapment' anyone?), there's no reason why Glenn shouldn't get it on with a young stud muffin. |
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Post by robertb213 on Jan 8, 2019 19:06:56 GMT
I'm dream-casting Cheyenne Jackson for Joe. It'll never ever ever happen in a million years, he's not a name, but he'd be dreamy and would sing the stuffing out of it 😍
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 19:28:06 GMT
Quite possibly. My issue with Efron being cast as Joe is the over-processing and ridiculous amount of Auto-Tune that goes onto Efron vocally. Sunset Blvd is not a movie that needs to be smothered in Autotune. Boulvard is not going to be a Box Office smash (or comparable in figures to say Disney movie musicals) and should not be treated as such. Anyone who went to the recent UK tour can attest to the depleting numbers of attendance, indicating its diminishing appeal. By-and-large it wont appeal to Generation Z and casting Efron in an attempt to add curb appeal to this production would be (in my opinion) entirely misguided. Unless the intention is to write of a hell of a lot of cash for tax purpose, spurting megabucks on A-Lists (with the exception of Close) is not a good idea. Agree with all of the above. As a financial venture it’s dead in the water unless Netflix or someone is coughing up...maybe spread the costs across a zillion producers who want their name associated with a bit of quality.I just think that Efron, Jackman and Chris Pine are the only current proven male musical leads we have. Actually I'm going to go back on what I've said for one suggestion. Josh Groban. |
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Post by danb on Jan 8, 2019 19:46:21 GMT
Agree with all of the above. As a financial venture it’s dead in the water unless Netflix or someone is coughing up...maybe spread the costs across a zillion producers who want their name associated with a bit of quality.I just think that Efron, Jackman and Chris Pine are the only current proven male musical leads we have. Actually I'm going to go back on what I've said for one suggestion. Josh Groban. ...would be fantastic, but has never led a movie and only ever really done light comedy onscreen. Also, couldn’t enjoy him being dead. He’s about the coolest celeb we have atm and I wouldn’t want him sullied by something naff. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 20:41:37 GMT
Can Matt Bomer sing?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 20:45:21 GMT
Wasn't there talk Glenn said she wouldn't do the Broadway run without the other three leads? With that in mind, could she request Michael Xavier at least in the lead male role, and have stars play the other two roles?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 21:11:35 GMT
Wasn't there talk Glenn said she wouldn't do the Broadway run without the other three leads? With that in mind, could she request Michael Xavier at least in the lead male role, and have stars play the other two roles? In that case, maybe Zax Efron could play Hog Eye... |
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Post by LaLuPone on Jan 8, 2019 21:23:09 GMT
I really don't want Glenn in this either, I'm sure she acts the role incredibly but this is a musical so why not have someone who will act AND sing the role incredibly? There's already the original film if you want simply a masterclass in straight-acting. Sunset Boulevard is my favourite Lloyd-Webber and the score is epic, but only for me when sung by an amazing singer with star-quality. I've watched videos of Glenn singing the big songs and for me her voice takes all of the excitement out of them, and most of my excitement for the film away!
No matter who steps into the role in the future, and even though I never saw her live (I wasn't born), just from the cast recording Patti is MY Norma, and she always will be.
What about Lea Michele for Betty?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jan 8, 2019 21:27:34 GMT
Wasn't there talk Glenn said she wouldn't do the Broadway run without the other three leads? With that in mind, could she request Michael Xavier at least in the lead male role, and have stars play the other two roles? Glenn Close can't sell movies anymore, they'll need a bankable leading man if they want to make this |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 8, 2019 21:30:47 GMT
Who could be Max???
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Post by danb on Jan 8, 2019 21:36:06 GMT
Eric Morecambe? Lionel Blair? Martin Clunes? |
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Post by distantcousin on Jan 8, 2019 22:16:58 GMT
Wasn't there talk Glenn said she wouldn't do the Broadway run without the other three leads? With that in mind, could she request Michael Xavier at least in the lead male role, and have stars play the other two roles? Glenn Close can't sell movies anymore, they'll need a bankable leading man if they want to make this Exactly - she's strictly "art house cinema" now - things that are on for two weeks and gone. Was she in a film called The Wife recently? |
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Post by danb on Jan 8, 2019 22:40:11 GMT
Glenn Close can't sell movies anymore, they'll need a bankable leading man if they want to make this Exactly - she's strictly "art house cinema" now - things that are on for two weeks and gone. Was she in a film called The Wife recently? Yes, she just won the Best Actress Golden Globe for itapparently. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 22:43:44 GMT
Exactly - she's strictly "art house cinema" now - things that are on for two weeks and gone. Was she in a film called The Wife recently? Yes, she just won the Best Actress Golden Globe for itapparently. and likely gonna win her first Oscar (a career Oscar) for it too. |
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Post by Dave25 on Jan 9, 2019 0:49:43 GMT
I really don't want Glenn in this either, I'm sure she acts the role incredibly but this is a musical so why not have someone who will act AND sing the role incredibly? Same here, when will people learn that this artform only works when great singing is combined with great acting? Glenn's acting performance is ruined when she starts singing, as she separates the singing from the acting. This makes the singing feel out of place and the performance insincere. This idea that "toning it down/speak singing/separating the acting from singing" makes it more real should be thrown out of the window. It actually makes it feel more fake. I can't stand Hugh Jackman in Les Mis speaking 4 words "Now....come on.....ladies......settle" and then uses a 5 second vibrato in the word "doooooooooooown". While all stage Valjeans sing the line naturally and keep the last word short which is much more filmic and feels more realistic. "Natural" in this artform is the opposite of what some filmmakers think. |
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Post by showtoones on Jan 9, 2019 5:29:28 GMT
Derek Hough for Joe?
Eddie Redmayne?
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Post by christya on Jan 9, 2019 10:17:21 GMT
Yes - he's no Jeremy Jordan (who I'd love to suggest but he's too young if Glenn Close is Norma, and maybe a little too young anyway) but he can sing quite nicely. Bit too much vibrato for my taste in this one but the only musical theatre song that came up immediately: He was also on Glee, but with the amount of auto-tune going on on that show, I tend not to view it as proof of anything... I'd love to see him as Joe, for completely non-shallow reasons. |
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Post by Jon on Jan 9, 2019 11:17:53 GMT
With Paramount Pictures involved, it's likely they'll get a name for Joe, Betty and Max. It doesn't need a huge budget but they likely won't skimp either
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 22:59:29 GMT
What on earth does "opened out" mean?
Slightly anxious it means more talking, less singing.
This could have been the best film ever with Dame Patti.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 23:03:11 GMT
Patti would be ridiculous on film, way too ott. With Glenn it's the small moments that were heartbreaking. That look when the spotlight hits her before AIWNSG...incredible.
I'd assume it means opening up the story a bit. I'd be happy with a bit less singing as long as the piece overall works
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 23:08:54 GMT
... and the Oscar goes too...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 23:15:07 GMT
For me the show hangs on having a strong Joe, its really his story and barely off stage. Chris Pine or Jake Gyllenhaal would be ideal for the movie
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