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Post by Michael on Feb 27, 2017 5:09:45 GMT
Do people think The Girls will get some noms? The reviews have been gd Excellent. Are we talking in text speak here now or was it really that hard to type good? It is as hard for @london to type "good" as it is for you to type apostrophes in the Oscar 2017 thread: Im going to try to stay awake to watch it, this however wont help my insomnia |
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Post by infofreako on Feb 27, 2017 5:13:36 GMT
Genuinely depends which handset I'm using. There you go. There's one right there for you. Oh and another. How amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 13:45:18 GMT
Dreamgirls and Sixpence will be pushed for New Musicals. I think they will stretch the category to 5 nominees and imagine it will also includeThe Girls, Groundhog and School of Rock. Aladdin & Motown likely won't make the cut.
I also gather the St James/Other Palace is eligible, so maybe some Wild Party wild cards?
Can't wait for next Monday!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 14:30:26 GMT
Best Actress… Glenda Jackson (King Lear), Imelda Staunton (…Virginia Woolf), Ruth Wilson (Hedda Gabler)…
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 14:37:19 GMT
Best Actress… Glenda Jackson (King Lear), Imelda Staunton (…Virginia Woolf), Ruth Wilson (Hedda Gabler)… Imelda isn't eligable this year, as the play has to of done at least 30 performances by the cutoff to be eligable, which this hasn't. But she will undoubtably be nominated next year! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 14:38:51 GMT
Dreamgirls and Sixpence will be pushed for New Musicals. I think they will stretch the category to 5 nominees and imagine it will also includeThe Girls, Groundhog and School of Rock. Aladdin & Motown likely won't make the cut. I also gather the St James/Other Palace is eligible, so maybe some Wild Party wild cards? Can't wait for next Monday! The St. James was never eligable, but who knows now Andrew owns it! I agree that they will push Sixpence into New Musical, as it is almost entirely new bar the songs and the bare bones of the story. |
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Post by sophie92 on Feb 28, 2017 15:21:28 GMT
Best Actress… Glenda Jackson (King Lear), Imelda Staunton (…Virginia Woolf), Ruth Wilson (Hedda Gabler)… Imelda isn't eligable this year, as the play has to of done at least 30 performances by the cutoff to be eligable, which this hasn't. But she will undoubtably be nominated next year! It doesn't need to have done 30 performances by the cut-off date, it just needs to have at least 30 performances scheduled. The wording is ambiguous, but if it was 30 performances before the cut-off, Beautiful would've had to wait until 2016 rather than 2015. That said, Who's Afraid... didn't open in time to be eligible this year, so that point still stands. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 15:33:10 GMT
In any case, the Oliviers aren't taken seriously nowadays because they are unduly influenced by commercial factors. Although it's always nice if something deserving wins or is even nominated.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 15:40:31 GMT
Imelda isn't eligable this year, as the play has to of done at least 30 performances by the cutoff to be eligable, which this hasn't. But she will undoubtably be nominated next year! It doesn't need to have done 30 performances by the cut-off date, it just needs to have at least 30 performances scheduled. The wording is ambiguous, but if it was 30 performances before the cut-off, Beautiful would've had to wait until 2016 rather than 2015. That said, Who's Afraid... didn't open in time to be eligible this year, so that point still stands. It should be 30 before the cut-off date, do they not remember David Tennant's Hamlet? That was a very weird year, it felt like they were expecting to give him the Best Actor award but were thwarted by his back injury, hence the unusual decision to name Malvolio the main character in Twelfth Night with a Best Actor award for Derek Jacobi. He would've made much more sense in the Supporting category. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:42:10 GMT
^ I think the point is 30 performances of the actual play not the individual actor… The Tennant thing was a mess that year, and I think that was more a personal attack on the actor - their thinking was why should they nominate someone who barely played the show… This kind of thinking cost Donna Murphy a Tony nomination for Wonderful Town in 2004 and lost Bernadette the Tony for Gypsy in 2003… all down to loss of performances.
Anyway, Harry Potter will undoubtedly be the big name on nominations day. Hairspray holds the record for the most noms ever (2008) with eleven… Do you think Potter can surpass this?
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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 28, 2017 20:11:10 GMT
Dreamgirls and Sixpence will be pushed for New Musicals. I think they will stretch the category to 5 nominees and imagine it will also includeThe Girls, Groundhog and School of Rock. Aladdin & Motown likely won't make the cut. I also gather the St James/Other Palace is eligible, so maybe some Wild Party wild cards? Can't wait for next Monday! The St. James was never eligable, but who knows now Andrew owns it! I agree that they will push Sixpence into New Musical, as it is almost entirely new bar the songs and the bare bones of the story. Wizard of Oz got nominated for best revival and not new musical despite having new songs added by Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 28, 2017 20:21:53 GMT
It will be so ridiculous if they consider Dreamgirls a 'new musical' since it's been around since the 80s, had numerous benefit concert/regional revivals and a full blown movie. It should be a revival, end of story. But anyway, I can see Harry Potter doing very well overall, and in spite of some people's opinions, Aladdin will probably fare very well especially in the tech categories. History doesn't count when deciding if something is new/revival, revival means restore to life or consciousness, does that mean to revive something it must of played a West End stage before or does a Broadway stage count and gone on to play many productions? The Tony ruling committee state a revival as a 'piece of theatre that has played Broadway before or a take on a classic story'. translated to London, Dreamdirls fail on both of theses, so would be a new musical I see it being called as a new musical, but then again stranger things have happened. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 23:40:26 GMT
The St. James was never eligable, but who knows now Andrew owns it! I agree that they will push Sixpence into New Musical, as it is almost entirely new bar the songs and the bare bones of the story. Wizard of Oz got nominated for best revival and not new musical despite having new songs added by Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice. What I mean though is it is an entirely new book as well for Half a Sixpence, a compeletely new design and choreography. Wizard of Oz was basically the movie onstage, including its script hahaha.I could see Sixpence being thrown into either, but it will get nominated.  |
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 1, 2017 1:56:12 GMT
It will be interesting come Monday, same as Dreamgirls. I am sure we can all agree on here - that whether it is considered new or revival both those categories are very competitive and one isn't easier than the other. The Olivier committee are on the side of the producer and want the best publicity for society member shows and will do there best at giving great shows the best shot at winning.
The only lock for a win is Harry Potter, there is no competition here, the society would be mad to even nominate 3/4 other shows on Monday, it's in the bag for them.
I was one to say that Aladdin has a great chance of winning, I recant from that and now think it will struggle to get nominated come Monday.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 18:34:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 20:15:19 GMT
So if everyone could pick just one show they want to see do well tomorrow with nominations, which show would it be? For me, I wanna see (and I could see it happening) Half a Sixpence getting a fair few nominations!  |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Mar 5, 2017 20:20:41 GMT
Does anyone know if Lazarus is eligible? If so, I'm rooting for a Michael C. Hall win!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 20:22:49 GMT
Does anyone know if Lazarus is eligible? If so, I'm rooting for a Michael C. Hall win! In the Heights was eligable last year, so unless there is some funny ruling about the new theatre, Lazerus should be eligable! I wouldn't mind seeing Michael nominated, but it seems tjphe general consensus is Andy Karl or Charlie Stemp for the win! Either of which I am happy for, but I'm backing Charlie! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 20:29:39 GMT
Does anyone know if Lazarus is eligible? If so, I'm rooting for a Michael C. Hall win! In the Heights was eligable last year, so unless there is some funny ruling about the new theatre, Lazerus should be eligable! I wouldn't mind seeing Michael nominated, but it seems tjphe general consensus is Andy Karl or Charlie Stemp for the win! Either of which I am happy for, but I'm backing Charlie! Michael C Hall is eligible. As is Tyrone Huntley for JCS and Trevor Dion Nicholas all in Best Leading Actor... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 20:39:17 GMT
In the Heights was eligable last year, so unless there is some funny ruling about the new theatre, Lazerus should be eligable! I wouldn't mind seeing Michael nominated, but it seems tjphe general consensus is Andy Karl or Charlie Stemp for the win! Either of which I am happy for, but I'm backing Charlie! Michael C Hall is eligible. As is Tyrone Huntley for JCS and Trevor Dion Nicholas all in Best Leading Actor... I would imagine that the latter two are considered supporting... mainly because, ya know, those characters are supporting. But if they get placed into leading, whoever is left in supporting will sail through! But I imagine they will be put into supporting. They cannot possibly consider the Genie the Lead male in Aladdin, and the leading catagory is already packed. And it may aftually be a detriment to someone like Trevor, because they can look at him and say he isn't giving the best leading performande, because it isn't a leading performance. Whereas if he was in supporting, he will win it, almost without a doubt. |
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Post by theatrehound on Mar 5, 2017 20:42:13 GMT
Does anyone know if Lazarus is eligible? If so, I'm rooting for a Michael C. Hall win! Fingers crossed for Michael! |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Mar 5, 2017 22:06:14 GMT
Does anyone know if Lazarus is eligible? If so, I'm rooting for a Michael C. Hall win! In the Heights was eligable last year, so unless there is some funny ruling about the new theatre, Lazerus should be eligable! I wouldn't mind seeing Michael nominated, but it seems tjphe general consensus is Andy Karl or Charlie Stemp for the win! Either of which I am happy for, but I'm backing Charlie! I didn't see Charlie Stemp (his understudy Sam O'Rourke was on in the role when I saw it, he was great though!), but saw Andy Karl and thought he was stunning. However, Michael C. Hall gives a performance like no other. One of the best performances I have ever seen onstage, I thought he was truly phenomenal. Sadly, I think there's little chance of him winning due to several factors. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 22:18:16 GMT
I'm looking forward to see which shows will be nominated. I really hope Groundhog Day will be but I don't think it will win any unless it will transfer as they will probably give the awards to shows running.
Another show I hope gets nominated for at least one award is Mary Stuart as that was incredible and I really loved the production.
I also think our ladies of perpetual succour could get a few nods as it is transferring.
We will. just have to wait and see
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 22:19:17 GMT
Any word on who's hosting the ceremony?
I'd be surprised if it isn't announced tomorrow! Thought it would have been done by now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 22:21:58 GMT
Which of the ladies will get nominatdd from The Girls? Joanna Riding would be a natural guess, but that catagory of Leading is packed out, so she may actuslly miss out based on that.
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