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Post by wickedgrin on Feb 28, 2017 13:01:03 GMT
Admittedly the producers are not doing "premium" pricing for this - hurrah, but the price hike to £69.50 will not have helped from preview prices especially mid-week. Not even being offered on TKTS (online) even at full price. I would have thought this would give them another ticket outlet as the Phoenix Theatre is not exactly in a prime location.
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Post by bellboard27 on Feb 28, 2017 18:29:38 GMT
Went by TKTS booth this morning- no deal. At 6.30 pm, however, there are dress circle seats at 28% off at £49.50.
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Post by wickedgrin on Mar 1, 2017 17:57:08 GMT
On TKTS again for tonight (at 6.00pm) Circle £49.50 from £69.50 and Grand Circle £19.50 from £29.50
LOTS of availability according to the ATG website. It looks half full/empty.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 18:12:36 GMT
Oh that's not good so soon in the run.
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Post by wickedgrin on Mar 1, 2017 18:30:13 GMT
No, indeed. The night I saw the show it seemed full and got a great reaction from the mainly female audience. I thought it had found a target market and although the show didn't especially appeal to me, I could not deny the positive reaction the show got and the complete standing ovation it got at the end.
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Post by longinthetooth on Mar 1, 2017 18:37:03 GMT
I've just seen it and loved it, but then I am the target audience I guess. Almost full, and standing ovation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 10:09:57 GMT
Oh dear. I actually think this works better without the songs, which are like a poor attempt to mimic Victoria Wood but fail miserably. Terrific cast who all give lovely performances but deserve far better than the material they're given. Michele Dotrice has turned herself into THE go-to comedy scene-stealer in London's glitzy West End though and Sophie-Louise Dann has got a figure that could (and probably has) stop traffic!
The place was empty last night though, don't know whether that's an exception or the rule but if it's not a one-off I can't see this lasting long. There were moments I could have sworn I saw some tumbleweed rolling by.
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Post by Mark on Mar 2, 2017 10:16:12 GMT
Oh dear. I actually think this works better without the songs, which are like a poor attempt to mimic Victoria Wood but fail miserably. Terrific cast who all give lovely performances but deserve far better than the material they're given. Michele Dotrice has turned herself into THE go-to comedy scene-stealer in London's glitzy West End though and Sophie-Louise Dann has got a figure that could (and probably has) stop traffic! The place was empty last night though, don't know whether that's an exception or the rule but if it's not a one-off I can't see this lasting long. There were moments I could have sworn I saw some tumbleweed rolling by. Were all levels open that you could see?
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Post by Mark on Mar 2, 2017 10:16:24 GMT
Oh dear. I actually think this works better without the songs, which are like a poor attempt to mimic Victoria Wood but fail miserably. Terrific cast who all give lovely performances but deserve far better than the material they're given. Michele Dotrice has turned herself into THE go-to comedy scene-stealer in London's glitzy West End though and Sophie-Louise Dann has got a figure that could (and probably has) stop traffic! The place was empty last night though, don't know whether that's an exception or the rule but if it's not a one-off I can't see this lasting long. There were moments I could have sworn I saw some tumbleweed rolling by. Were all levels open that you could see?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 10:21:40 GMT
Yes, all three levels. To be honest I'm surprised they didn't move everyone forward. There were even loads of empty seats in the rows towards the front of the stalls. The Grand Circle probably had about 40-50 people in it.
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Post by longinthetooth on Mar 2, 2017 22:53:19 GMT
According to Baz on Twitter: "In one week @thegirlsmusical by #TimFirth and @garybarlow has sold a staggering £1 million worth of tickets #BigHit" Seems at odds with the comments above!
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Post by infofreako on Mar 2, 2017 22:58:49 GMT
They must've largely been for weekends then.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 23:00:25 GMT
1 million pounds
Only Equates to
Between 15-25 full shows
Obviously depending on the prices people paid
It's hardly that significant
Given many shows gross a million a week ongoing in the WE and musicals on Broadway take up 2 million dollars a week regularly
It looks good
But if that rush was all the people who were going to book following the reviews it's not that amazing
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 23:00:28 GMT
That doesn't suggest that £1,000,000 worth of tickets were used in one week, but were sold. Those tickets could well be for shows spread out across the booking period.
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Post by Jon on Mar 2, 2017 23:08:59 GMT
£1m seems like a lot but keep in mind a flop like Viva Forever had a huge advance but burnt through it pretty quickly.
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Post by longinthetooth on Mar 2, 2017 23:09:29 GMT
Oops, sorry about the mess I made of my post above. Can't seem to tidy it.
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Post by infofreako on Mar 2, 2017 23:41:30 GMT
Oops, sorry about the mess I made of my post above. Can't seem to tidy it. Its fine. I made sense of it. The concept of manipulating figures to tell a story fascinates me.
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Post by wickedgrin on Mar 3, 2017 1:02:03 GMT
£1 million across the run is poor, although the figure is manipulated to give the impression of a big hit! Full page ad in the London Evening Standard tonight.
I am surprised the show is not doing better at the box office after the positive reviews and audience reaction when I saw the show. Perhaps word of mouth may build the audience?
Another random thought I had re (apparent) lack of bums on seats may be that the show is considered, sad and about bereavement. Perhaps folk just want a laugh on a night out in these times. I notice Russell Howard has sold out the Albert Hall for about half of his 10 nights there!!! Tickets too at around £35 - half the price of The Girls. There is only so much cash to go round......
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 1:29:12 GMT
Another random thought I had re (apparent) lack of bums on seats may be that the show is considered, sad and about bereavement. Perhaps folk just want a laugh on a night out in these times. I notice Russell Howard has sold out the Albert Hall for about half of his 10 nights there!!! Tickets too at around £35 - half the price of The Girls. There is only so much cash to go round...... I must admit, even though I didn't want to know about the shows plot, once I found out certain parts of the show involved bereavement and illness, I have been since tempted to not go to the show for a little while. But that is just because I have recently lost someone to similar circumstances and I k ow that, right now, I don't know if I could enjoy a show surrounding similar circumstances.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 3, 2017 1:44:35 GMT
Remember like the critics, Baz is just part of the marketing team, hoping people will be overwhelmed by £1m tickets sold and go out and buy their tickets. Over half a year, that could equate to £40k a week, which wouldn't compute to 1 performance being completely sold out. So Bax has completely reported meaninless tosh and really treading water as he is short on other stories.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 3, 2017 1:48:29 GMT
Yes the critics seem to be all part of the marketing team of these shows. The prices too have gone up quite a bit. I do think it appeals to their target market though and that will ensure a decent run. I definitely agree with the above, you get honey from where the bees are and that is what the press do, over the years I have seen them over praise pedestrian productions and kick excellent small fringe productions in the teeth. The critics are meaningless today and the public are wishing up and getting their opinions from elsewhere.
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Post by infofreako on Mar 3, 2017 2:23:28 GMT
Glancing through the tweets on Baz's timeline something stood out. In an exchange about Finding Neverland he was saying how these shows cost millions to put on. Reading that makes his tweet about this selling a million pounds worth of tickets sound less impressive.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 8:06:19 GMT
Glancing through the tweets on Baz's timeline something stood out. In an exchange about Finding Neverland he was saying how these shows cost millions to put on. Reading that makes his tweet about this selling a million pounds worth of tickets sound less impressive. They do cost millions, and hundreds of thousands to run each week. An advance of £1million isn't anything to rave about...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 8:42:40 GMT
According to Baz on Twitter:
"In one week @thegirlsmusical by #TimFirth and @garybarlow has sold a staggering £1 million worth of tickets #BigHit"
Seems at odds with the comments above!
In one week @thegirlsmusical ,by #TimFirth & @garybarlow ,has sold a staggering £1million worth of tickets. #BigHit
But here's the maths...
£1M divided by £65 (top ticket) = 15.5K Phoenix seats just over 1K 8 shows pw Just under 2 weeks sold out
They need to keep this up or they won't survive past their July booking period. And remember there is a box office bounce after great reviews but that only lasts until the reviews become fish and chip paper
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Post by caa on Mar 3, 2017 8:50:38 GMT
My view is that to be a success in London a musical needs - stars, popular songs or has already been a hit. As to be a success its got to appeal to the people who once or twice a year, tourists, family's and the coach groups, having critical success means little to most people.
In regard to the Girls the ticket prices feel too high and appears to be aimed at a certain audience, the producers are trying not to discount tickets, but with tickets still being unsold, I wonder how long they can continue to do this for? As for me, I am waiting for offers before I go as I'd like to see it, but its not high on my list of shows I'm prepared to spend lots of money to see.
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