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Post by notsotheatrical on Nov 13, 2024 23:04:25 GMT
Wow....they really just gave up with Wicked London I guess
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Post by flouise on Nov 13, 2024 23:09:17 GMT
I'm almost disappointed if it is them because I love them both and I've managed to avoid Wicked for SO many years (I think my last visit was when Alice Fearn was standby Elphaba), and this will certainly break that! Very happy to see them both back on a West End stage though.
The more I think about it, the more that I think that Zizi would make the perfect Glinda
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Nov 13, 2024 23:12:31 GMT
I would expect it after this amount of time, but glad they're (eventually) getting someone new then as Ryan felt miscast to me sadly Ryan is staying unfortunately. …Well I will be avoiding the Apollo Victoria for a year then
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Post by musicalfan on Nov 13, 2024 23:37:46 GMT
I would expect it after this amount of time, but glad they're (eventually) getting someone new then as Ryan felt miscast to me sadly Ryan is staying unfortunately. I’d heard that the whole principal cast was changing - if Ryan stays by the end of the next contract he will have been there for 4 yrs
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Nov 14, 2024 0:44:11 GMT
Ryan is staying unfortunately. I’d heard that the whole principal cast was changing - if Ryan stays by the end of the next contract he will have been there for 4 yrs I would be reaaaally surprised if he is staying because 4 years is almost unheard of for this kind of show for even someone that’s a fan favourite, and I think it’s pretty clear he’s not become that so I don’t know why they would
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Post by kyvai on Nov 14, 2024 8:21:22 GMT
This is exciting news, I can imagine though after having an all-black lead trio for the first time ever, replacing with two white actresses, they might be keen for Fiyero to not be white also or it would attract comment. But please just bring Carl Mann over from the tour! He’s brilliant.
Excited to see Zizi especially. I envisage her wringing every last drop of comedy out of the role!!
(Also if they could fix the sound mixing issues and jazz up the DG flying effects then all would be well with the world 😎)
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Post by musicalfan on Nov 14, 2024 9:14:35 GMT
This is exciting news, I can imagine though after having an all-black lead trio for the first time ever, replacing with two white actresses, they might be keen for Fiyero to not be white also or it would attract comment. But please just bring Carl Mann over from the tour! He’s brilliant. Excited to see Zizi especially. I envisage her wringing every last drop of comedy out of the role!! (Also if they could fix the sound mixing issues and jazz up the DG flying effects then all would be well with the world 😎) I would love them to bring Carl back to London. I wonder if they’ll bring more tour cast over to London. Think Maddison Firth would be a great standby. The sound issue is crazy sometimes it is fine and sometimes it’s completely off. I remember thinking how great everything sounded on tour and how great the orchestra sounds. And I may be in the minority but I actually love the flying effect it just looks really powerful with the elongated cape
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Post by backtothetheatre on Nov 14, 2024 9:20:48 GMT
This is exciting news, I can imagine though after having an all-black lead trio for the first time ever, replacing with two white actresses, they might be keen for Fiyero to not be white also or it would attract comment. But please just bring Carl Mann over from the tour! He’s brilliant. Excited to see Zizi especially. I envisage her wringing every last drop of comedy out of the role!! (Also if they could fix the sound mixing issues and jazz up the DG flying effects then all would be well with the world 😎) Emma Kingston is not white?
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Post by normasturban on Nov 14, 2024 9:44:01 GMT
Wicked London would benefit from a couple weeks tightening by the powers that be. It’s giving Les Mis or Phantom a few years back when they received some TLC and never looked back.
The sound needs reviewed and the actors need a firmer guide in terms of direction. The last time I went the amount of jokes that didn’t land simply due to delivery was staggering.
Say what you want about Lucie but her Elphaba went on a journey, the last time I saw the current leads it was a case of simply moving from point A to B on stage with little much else.
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Post by musicalfan on Nov 14, 2024 10:31:11 GMT
Wicked London would benefit from a couple weeks tightening by the powers that be. It’s giving Les Mis or Phantom a few years back when they received some TLC and never looked back. The sound needs reviewed and the actors need a firmer guide in terms of direction. The last time I went the amount of jokes that didn’t land simply due to delivery was staggering. Say what you want about Lucie but her Elphaba went on a journey, the last time I saw the current leads it was a case of simply moving from point A to B on stage with little much else. I absolutely loved Lucie’s characterisation
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Post by thecursedexpress on Nov 14, 2024 14:50:36 GMT
Wicked London would benefit from a couple weeks tightening by the powers that be. It’s giving Les Mis or Phantom a few years back when they received some TLC and never looked back. The sound needs reviewed and the actors need a firmer guide in terms of direction. The last time I went the amount of jokes that didn’t land simply due to delivery was staggering. Say what you want about Lucie but her Elphaba went on a journey, the last time I saw the current leads it was a case of simply moving from point A to B on stage with little much else. I absolutely loved Lucie’s characterisation The fact Lucie didn't do another year I don't know why? I hope she does the 4th UK Tour whenever that will be. I mean I haven't seen Zizi or Emma in anything but the casting feels very fancast to me if true, I will believe it when the official announcement comes.
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Nov 14, 2024 14:58:36 GMT
Lucie’s attendance was not great which is probably why she didn’t do another year. (I don’t think this is her fault though as I believe she suffered from post-covid issues, and we all know it’s a massive sing)
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Post by thecursedexpress on Nov 14, 2024 15:31:44 GMT
Lucie’s attendance was not great which is probably why she didn’t do another year. (I don’t think this is her fault though as I believe she suffered from post-covid issues, and we all know it’s a massive sing) This is why I only got to see her last show, it was amazing but I was so sad after as I wanted to see her more. When I learnt that I felt really bad for her, hoping she will come back at some point for a redemption arc.
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 14, 2024 16:39:12 GMT
I absolutely loved Lucie’s characterisation The fact Lucie didn't do another year I don't know why? because she was never there!
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Post by singularsensation10 on Nov 15, 2024 11:03:51 GMT
Ryan is not staying. All principals and standbys leaving. New standbys have both covered the role before….
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Post by jj9692 on Nov 15, 2024 11:11:48 GMT
Ryan is not staying. All principals and standbys leaving. New standbys have both covered the role before…. Any hints??
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Post by backtothetheatre on Nov 15, 2024 11:18:51 GMT
Ryan is not staying. All principals and standbys leaving. New standbys have both covered the role before…. Those who got to the finals for Fiyero were told no as Ryan decided to stay. If he is leaving, I don’t know why the team would choose to lie to them rather than just give them a simple no, unless it’s a fairly last minute change. I will however be very happy with a new Fiyero.
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Post by musicalfan on Nov 15, 2024 11:54:43 GMT
Ryan is not staying. All principals and standbys leaving. New standbys have both covered the role before…. Those who got to the finals for Fiyero were told no as Ryan decided to stay. If he is leaving, I don’t know why the team would choose to lie to them rather than just give them a simple no, unless it’s a fairly last minute change. I will however be very happy with a new Fiyero. He’s doing it Katie Rowley Jones style. I would have thought the producers would have wanted some fresh blood unless they are saving a new fiyero for the 20th anniversary. I wouldn’t be mad them bringing Maddi and Megan over from tour to standby they were great when I saw them
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Post by ozdustballroom on Nov 15, 2024 12:08:27 GMT
Ryan is not staying. All principals and standbys leaving. New standbys have both covered the role before…. Is this including both Christine and Lisa as well as Laura?
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Post by christya on Nov 15, 2024 12:37:01 GMT
Really hope Ryan isn't staying. I had high hopes for a refresh of this show after the film, but him staying would ensure I don't go back anyway.
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Post by solangelafitte on Nov 15, 2024 12:53:39 GMT
Those who got to the finals for Fiyero were told no as Ryan decided to stay. If he is leaving, I don’t know why the team would choose to lie to them rather than just give them a simple no, unless it’s a fairly last minute change. I will however be very happy with a new Fiyero. He’s doing it Katie Rowley Jones style. I would have thought the producers would have wanted some fresh blood unless they are saving a new fiyero for the 20th anniversary. I wouldn’t be mad them bringing Maddi and Megan over from tour to standby they were great when I saw them Megan's my favourite Glinda in years. I'd love the chance to see her again.
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Post by aingidh on Nov 15, 2024 15:03:46 GMT
Casey/Maddi and Megan would be my bets for the new standbys. If the tour ends in January and new London cast starts in March that would work in terms of the turnaround.
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Post by isabel on Nov 15, 2024 20:22:24 GMT
Ryan is not staying. All principals and standbys leaving. New standbys have both covered the role before…. Let's hope the new cast breath some life back into the show
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Post by unseaworthy on Nov 15, 2024 20:25:33 GMT
Ryan is not staying. All principals and standbys leaving. New standbys have both covered the role before…. Same old thing will happen, we hope for some exciting casting - and it's as stale as ever. They really need a good pair of new-to-the- show Witches At this point they could cast some mannequins... Nobody would care... Artistic integrity left this show years ago
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 15, 2024 20:45:04 GMT
It’s a bizarre situation. One of the biggest movies of the year is about to launch, there will be massive interest in the stage show and it’s in this state. Who the frickin’ hell is in charge of this at Wicked U.K.? Because they’re failing big time.
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